I'm against gay marriage.

[Eli]

Religion plays a MASSIVE role in our society today. Sadly enough.

Just look at all the people that voted for Bush just because he's a "Christian man". What did they that show call it.. "The Jesus Factor"?

:frown:

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its amazing that in GA you haven't learned your lessons from history. ever wrong... what your great at is justifying the oppression of people. its imbedded in the culture.

as if it was just georgia that passed this. people in many states were asked, and they responded. you can mock religion or southern states or whatever else, but apparently a majority of folks outside of california don't want to taint the union of a man and woman.

and i voted to amend the ga constitution, not that it really changes anything.

Actually, it does. We talked about this the other night.

 

[n0cmonkey]

If marriage is a religious thing, it should not be recognized by our secular government. Anyone wanting the rights that married people get should have to get civil unions. The government has no business regulating religious things.

Holding back stem cell research is like banning the export of cryptography, STUPID. Just another way to hold back the US and make us weaker.

Have you looked at how the country is going? In a decade or two we will be in the perfect position for China to take over. How's that Christianity going to work out for you then?

 

[oldirtythao]

Originally posted by: J0hnny

Edit - This country was built on the christian principles.

This country was built by religious ppl trying to escape persecuation based on their beliefs. Saying that it was built on christian principles isn't necessarily true. Compared to Europe the US is way more conservatives because of its protestant background, however in the US we are more tolerant to different beliefs based, well we were more tolerant.

As for the marriage thing, different cultures have different ways of marriage. If different cultures are allowed to marry in the US why not homosexuals, they technically a different culture...

 

[shuan24]

yeah even the news posted that the most important issue to the midwestern states was the "moral stance".

Not terrorism, not war, not taxes, not a single IMPORTANT issue......the only reason they voted for bush- BAN gay marriages! Talk about ignorance.

 

[n0cmonkey]

The country was founded on greed. Think: Boston Tea Party.

"You got your religion in my government!"
"You got your government in my religion!"

Two horrible tastes that taste even worse together.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its amazing that in GA you haven't learned your lessons from history. ever wrong... what your great at is justifying the oppression of people. its imbedded in the culture.

as if it was just georgia that passed this. people in many states were asked, and they responded. you can mock religion or southern states or whatever else, but apparently a majority of folks outside of california don't want to taint the union of a man and woman.

and i voted to amend the ga constitution, not that it really changes anything.

Actually, it does. We talked about this the other night.

i know we had a convo, but i was half asleep so i can't remember what decision we came to. all i know is that corprec said i hate black people because i voted yes or whatever.

oh, and i wasn't defending my vote of yes, just get annoyed with people like 0roo0roo and his retarded nonsense.

 

[marcello]

Originally posted by: J0hnny
Hey, it's no longer something that us conservative Americans have to hide our feelings for, since the election shows the majority are against it.

I'm sick and tired of being hushed up for the ideals of the traditional religious American beliefs and I'm glad that this country voted on a moral stance against gay marraiges and against stem cell research. Thumbs up for an amendment and your courage.

btw, I'm a New Yorker and against Bush's policies on the war.

Edit - This country was built on the christian principles.

*prepares to be flamed* ...

Why is it your right to say who can and can't get married? Also, the country may have taken a "moral" (read: religious) stance against Stem Cell Research, but California didn't. We passed the proposition for Stem Cell Research. I can't wait for asshats like you to be the first in line when we cure many of the horrible diseases that afflict so many people in this world. I hope I can be there to deny you service for your shortsighted and narrowminded beliefs. You're the type of person who switches sides once tragedy actually affects you and you make me sick.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its amazing that in GA you haven't learned your lessons from history. ever wrong... what your great at is justifying the oppression of people. its imbedded in the culture.

as if it was just georgia that passed this. people in many states were asked, and they responded. you can mock religion or southern states or whatever else, but apparently a majority of folks outside of california don't want to taint the union of a man and woman.

and i voted to amend the ga constitution, not that it really changes anything.

Actually, it does. We talked about this the other night.

i know we had a convo, but i was half asleep so i can't remember what decision we came to. all i know is that corprec said i hate black people because i voted yes or whatever.

oh, and i wasn't defending my vote of yes, just get annoyed with people like 0roo0roo and his retarded nonsense.

I still don't know why you, or anyone else, voted yes.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: shuan24
yeah even the news posted that the most important issue to the midwestern states was the "moral stance".

Not terrorism, not war, not taxes, not a single IMPORTANT issue......the only reason they voted for bush- BAN gay marriages! Talk about ignorance.

if you really think terrorism or war didn't weigh in on people voting for bush then you are the ignorant one. granted, there are people with morals in this country and they probably did vote for bush, but i can't hardly believe that was the sole reason. of course, 55 million people voted for kerry because he's not bush (and only because he's not bush, not because he IS kerry), so i guess anything is possible.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its amazing that in GA you haven't learned your lessons from history. ever wrong... what your great at is justifying the oppression of people. its imbedded in the culture.

as if it was just georgia that passed this. people in many states were asked, and they responded. you can mock religion or southern states or whatever else, but apparently a majority of folks outside of california don't want to taint the union of a man and woman.

and i voted to amend the ga constitution, not that it really changes anything.

Actually, it does. We talked about this the other night.

i know we had a convo, but i was half asleep so i can't remember what decision we came to. all i know is that corprec said i hate black people because i voted yes or whatever.

oh, and i wasn't defending my vote of yes, just get annoyed with people like 0roo0roo and his retarded nonsense.

I still don't know why you, or anyone else, voted yes.

we had this convo! it sounded good at the time.

 

[Ynog]

Just a side note/thought.

If its wrong to ban gay marriages, should it also be wrong for bigamy to be a crime?

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its amazing that in GA you haven't learned your lessons from history. ever wrong... what your great at is justifying the oppression of people. its imbedded in the culture.

as if it was just georgia that passed this. people in many states were asked, and they responded. you can mock religion or southern states or whatever else, but apparently a majority of folks outside of california don't want to taint the union of a man and woman.

and i voted to amend the ga constitution, not that it really changes anything.

Actually, it does. We talked about this the other night.

i know we had a convo, but i was half asleep so i can't remember what decision we came to. all i know is that corprec said i hate black people because i voted yes or whatever.

oh, and i wasn't defending my vote of yes, just get annoyed with people like 0roo0roo and his retarded nonsense.

I still don't know why you, or anyone else, voted yes.

we had this convo! it sounded good at the time.

...and you never did adequately support your position on the matter.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: shuan24
yeah even the news posted that the most important issue to the midwestern states was the "moral stance".

Not terrorism, not war, not taxes, not a single IMPORTANT issue......the only reason they voted for bush- BAN gay marriages! Talk about ignorance.

if you really think terrorism or war didn't weigh in on people voting for bush then you are the ignorant one. granted, there are people with morals in this country and they probably did vote for bush, but i can't hardly believe that was the sole reason. of course, 55 million people voted for kerry because he's not bush, so i guess anything is possible.

Everyone has morals, they might not match up to yours though. Some of us opened our eyes in the past X years and realized that the world has changed and grown past the Church.

Please keep your religion out of the government, it has no place there.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: Ynog
Just a side note/thought.

If its wrong to ban gay marriages, should it also be wrong for bigamy to be a crime?

One issue at a time please, sir. Kindy move through the line and watch your step near that slippery slope we've got cordoned off, please. Have a nice day.

 

[Thraxen]

Everyone living in a state that has yet to approve or disapprove of gay marriage should just stfu. When your state takes a stance then you have the right to bash other states. Or just keep on debating.. I don't really care.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: Fausto

...and you never did adequately support your position on the matter.

i never had one. i haven't slept in 3 weeks but wanted to cast my vote for president. it was on the ballot, it sounded good at the time. then you showed me the full amendment, and i think i decided i probably should have voted no. however, it wouldn't have made a difference as it didn't come down to one vote, and gay marriage was illegal before the amendment, and still is.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Ynog
Just a side note/thought.

If its wrong to ban gay marriages, should it also be wrong for bigamy to be a crime?

Nonsequitor.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: shuan24
yeah even the news posted that the most important issue to the midwestern states was the "moral stance".

Not terrorism, not war, not taxes, not a single IMPORTANT issue......the only reason they voted for bush- BAN gay marriages! Talk about ignorance.

if you really think terrorism or war didn't weigh in on people voting for bush then you are the ignorant one. granted, there are people with morals in this country and they probably did vote for bush, but i can't hardly believe that was the sole reason. of course, 55 million people voted for kerry because he's not bush, so i guess anything is possible.

Everyone has morals, they might not match up to yours though. Some of us opened our eyes in the past X years and realized that the world has changed and grown past the Church.

Please keep your religion out of the government, it has no place there.

what? i'm not even religious. that doesn't mean i don't have morals. thanks tho for the reply that seems to have nothing to do with mine....

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: shuan24
yeah even the news posted that the most important issue to the midwestern states was the "moral stance".

Not terrorism, not war, not taxes, not a single IMPORTANT issue......the only reason they voted for bush- BAN gay marriages! Talk about ignorance.

yea and i hate that labeling of "moral stance". makes bigotry sound almost good. the "moral stance" arguement is used to justify keeping women in bee keeper outfits in parts of the middle east a moral stance can mean anything, it can justify anything. and it has, the oppression of so many for so long in the south was justified as a moral/religious issue. its just an opinion based on ignorance and religious fervor, and its disturbing the media have been sucked into using the terminology that tries to falsly paint the "other" as immoral. the so called liberal media has been parroting a totally unjustified exclusive claim on "morals" by one side. rather sad.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Fausto

...and you never did adequately support your position on the matter.

i never had one. i haven't slept in 3 weeks but wanted to cast my vote for president. it was on the ballot, it sounded good at the time. then you showed me the full amendment, and i think i decided i probably should have voted no. however, it wouldn't have made a difference as it didn't come down to one vote, and gay marriage was illegal before the amendment, and still is.

I know, but the amemdment will make it that much harder to undo all this mess in the future and undermines civil unions on top of that.

In short: it just made things worse for one group with no discernable benefit to the other. Unless the divorce rate in GA plummets in the next five years, I'd say you guys just f*cked up.

 

[Thraxen]

Nonsequitor

Actually, it is a very reasonable question that might arise from opening up "marriage" to include other types of union.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: shuan24
yeah even the news posted that the most important issue to the midwestern states was the "moral stance".

Not terrorism, not war, not taxes, not a single IMPORTANT issue......the only reason they voted for bush- BAN gay marriages! Talk about ignorance.

if you really think terrorism or war didn't weigh in on people voting for bush then you are the ignorant one. granted, there are people with morals in this country and they probably did vote for bush, but i can't hardly believe that was the sole reason. of course, 55 million people voted for kerry because he's not bush, so i guess anything is possible.

Everyone has morals, they might not match up to yours though. Some of us opened our eyes in the past X years and realized that the world has changed and grown past the Church.

Please keep your religion out of the government, it has no place there.

what? i'm not even religious. that doesn't mean i don't have morals. thanks tho for the reply that seems to have nothing to do with mine....

It does have something to do with your post. See the bolded section.

 

[dragonballgtz]

Let them get married if they want to.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Fausto
I still don't know why you, or anyone else, voted yes.

Because they're incompetent, homophobic, worthless, pathetic excuses for a human being, let alone one living in the so-called United States of America, land of the free, where equity reins.

Shouldn't it be against the constitution to ammend the constitution with discriminatory wording or something? Gah, you anti-gay people make me sick. It's your worst fear, yet you need to pull the sausage out of your asses.

I guess, unfortunately, you're always right when you believe you have God on your side.

:frown: