I'm building a new computer. What are something that i need to know before starting?

mydearpear

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Ok, I have all my computer parts ready, what are something that i need to take care with caution, and what are something that i need to know before starting?
Like.. do i have to wash my hand before touching those chips...
 

bex0rs

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I generally "install" the cpu and ram before putting the motherboard in the case because it makes life easier.

~bex0rs
 

lazyboy

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If you have a thunderbird be careful when putting the HSF on. Do not apply uneven pressure or you will crack the core. Loosen up that clip a bit too.
 

BudLight423

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also work on a wooden table so you dont get any static elec. and if you are installing the cpu & hsf be vary careful
 

emjem

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Clean out your bowels so you mess yourself when you fry your new cpu.
 

iamthebear

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Its usually better to install one component at a time. i.e. install Motherboard, CPU, RAM & Videocard, boot, make sure it works and then move on. I've made the same mistake of hooking everything up and then having the computer not boot and spending a couple of hours find out my video card was not seated properly, or my hard drive connector was on backwards, you know, general "DOH!" stuff.
 

velvtelvis

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when you first fire it up, do so with the fewest perephials installed as possiable. Get it up and stable with just HD/CD/floppy and vid. Deal with the modem/NIC and sound card later.
 

mydearpear

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.... seems installing HSF is really hard...
has anyone here broke their cpu during the installation of HSF?
 

Bignate603

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it's not that hard if you are aware of the problem. People busted their cores because they didn't know you really could. Just take some extra care hooking on your heatsink, and loosen the clip a little if its a high tension clip before hand.
 

velvtelvis

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oh
don't forget to take the backing off the termal tape on the HSF
you'll live in shame the rest of your life if you don't
 

MattStone

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When putting computer stuff together...I don't think I've ever done anything right, except when I put my HSF on my Tbird. The funny thing was that I read about the core cracking problems after I got installed, and I about crapped my pants. While I was doing it, I noticed it was damn tight, so I loosened the clip, and took it REAL slow. Worked fine.

...over at hardocp.com, they've killed a couple of 1.2ghz chips.
 

Muerto

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Most HSFs have been re-designed to not destroy the CPU, but take your time anyway. Depending on what kind you have you might have to use a screwdriver to clip it on. Just make sure you apply even pressure and apply it slowly. Gently ease the clip into place, don't try to quickly force it on or you WILL regret it.

Here's some other tips for the HSF...

1. Make sure you are using a thermal compound, it will greatly increase heat transfer. Only apply it to the CPU core (the little green square thing), and apply a thin layer. Too much compound will actually block heat. You can buy thermal compound at any computer or electronics store.

2. Thoroughly clean the bottom of the heatsink with alcohol and wipe it clean with a lint free wiper if possible. Do not touch it with your bare hands, oil and dirt from your skin reduces heat transfer. Use a toothpick or razor blade, or anything else with a straight flat edge to spread the thermal compound on the CPU core. You want an even layer. You shouldn't need to apply any compound to the bottom of the heatsink.

Hope this helps. Good luck.
 

Muerto

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A phillips should be all you need. Some screws may also require a flat one.
 

Barrak

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Dont forget the plastic risers when installing the motherboard. They are small plastic pieces that go between the motherboard and the side of the case, dont wana blow your motherboard during your first try. And also, if you get floppy drive errors during boot and the floppy light stays on the entire time it is probably the cable. Floppy cables are one of the few computer componets that can still be installed backwords.
 

Wik

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Jeeze maybe I am too laid back, maybe too careless. But I am not so worried when I put systems together. I guess it comes after putting so many systems together. Hell I have even done it on the living room carpet. Have yet to wreck anything. HSF you want to pay attention to what you are doing and yes putting it on before you put the MB inside the case is a big help. One thing that I tell people to do is read the MB manual first. Learn what all the jumpers do without looking at the book.


 

mydearpear

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I want as much information as possible before starting, because i don't wanna fry my new computer :disgust:
 

FluxCapacitor

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NOTE: This assumes you have a new case with nothing in it... if you don't, there's more steps involved, namely, disconnecting all the cables/wires from the old motherboard, removing the motherboard from the case, and detaching it from the metal tray/sheet. Please be sure you ground yourself first (see below)

Here's the order I put things together and the precautions I take:

If your case has a removable motherboard tray, slide it out first. If not, remove the metal sheet that attaches to the case so you can mount the motherboard to it.

Set your tray/sheet down on a flat, non-static area (wood or rubber are best) and make sure you ground yourself also. All I mean when I say ground yourself is make sure you're not going to get any static electricity "pop" when you touch any of your computer components (especially the motherboard/CPU/RAM/add-in cards). Use common sense, ie, don't go doing this on a thick carpet while wearing socks. Also, try to handle the components by the edges only.

Figure out where the holes of the motherboard line up against the tray and attach the standoffs (metal screws with an allan wrench head) to the tray. Now set the motherboard down on the standoffs and mount it to the tray. Don't get carried away tightening the screws you use to mount the motherboard to the tray. It should be tight, but no more.

Once you've done this, put your CPU in the socket and lock it down. Try not to touch any of the pins on the bottom of the CPU as you do this. This limits the chance of any static electricity shorting it out, and also minimizes the chance of bending any of the pins.

Now attach your heatsink/fan to the CPU. Use the method the other people suggested. You WILL have to apply some force most likely, (more or less depending on the type you have). These things need to be tight against the CPU core to efficiently remove the heat that's generated. But again, use common sense. We're talking about a fragile silicon chip here. If you're torquing that heatsink on there like you're trying to loosen a rusty lug nut, well, you're probably doing something wrong. Take your time. BE SURE TO ATTACH THE FAN TO THE CORRECT POWER CONNECTOR ON THE MOTHERBOARD. Some motherboards won't boot without the fan connected to the "heatsink/fan" header.

Now add your RAM to the DIMM slots. Check your motherboard manual first. Sometimes you must fill certain slots first... sometimes not. Always nice to know this before you go to boot and get a blank screen. The bottom of the RAM stick is keyed, meaning it can only fit into the slot one way. These usually take a good firm force to get them pushed all the way in. It's usually easiest to push one side in and then the other. Push straight down on the top of the RAM stick with your thumb, don't grip in on the sides (the whole static electricity thing again). You'll know it's mounted properly when the mounting clips are flush with the side of the RAM, locking it in place.

Now would be a good time to check your motherboard manual to make sure any jumpers that need to be set on motherboard are indeed set correctly. Check the jumper for the CPU multiplier, if you have one. It should be set to the correct amount, or set to BIOS if you plan to set it using the BIOS. Check the jumper for your bus speed/memory timing if you have one. Set it to the correct bus speed/memory timing (ie 100/100, 100/133, 133/133). Also set your onboard audio to enable/disable if you have it. Check everything, this is the easiest time to get at those jumpers.

If you have a motherboard tray, you can attach your video card and other PCI/ISA cards now, otherwise you'll have to wait until you get the motherboard back into the case. One thing to keep in mind is that some of your PCI slots will most likely be shared with other devices. For instance, slot 1 is usually shared with the AGP slot (video card). It's a good idea to keep that slot empty if this is the case. If you run into IRQ conflicts when you're installing windows later on, you may have to swap your PCI cards around.

BEFORE you put the motherboard into the case, mount all your other devices into the case. Get all those fans mounted, mount the floppy drive, hard drives, CD-ROM/DVD drives, ZIP drive, and whatever else you've got. Make sure you set your hard drive(s), CD-ROM/DVD drive(s), ZIP drive, etc for MASTER or SLAVE before you mount them. Figure out how you want them set up now. It's just about impossible to move those jumpers after the drive is mounted in the case.

Ok, now you've got all your harware mounted in the case, it's finally time to put the motherboard tray/sheet back into the case. If you weren't able to attach the video card and PCI/ISA cards before, do that now.

Now is when I hook up the case wiring to the motherboard. I'm talking about the power switch, power led, hard drive led, speaker, etc. Laying the case down on it's side will make this process much easier. This is probably the most confusing part of setting up your system for most people, but it really isn't. Look at your manual. Find the page with the diagram of what pin is what. Each of the wires attached to your case should correspond to a set of pins on the motherboard, and should be labelled. (ie, PSWITCH = power switch, HD = Hard Drive LED, etc) Abbreviations vary, but you should be able to figure it out. About now you're asking yourself, "Which way do I connect the wires? How do I know which color is positive(+) and which is negative(-/ground)." Easy. Look the black connector on the end of the wires. See the small arrow at the end of one of the wires? Connect this to the positive(+) pin on the motherboard for that set of wires. That's all you have to remember. No more guesswork.

Hook up your power supply to the motherboard. For an ATX power supply, the molex connector will only attach one way. Next attach all your drive cables and then your power cables (don't forget your case fans)


There you have it. Your computer should now be usable. One thing to remember. Don't go trying any overclocking until you're sure everything works. First priority is to get your system running stable... THEN overclock.

Hope this helps. Anything I didn't answer, feel free to ask. And sorry it got so long. (Hey, I was bored)
 
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