Truth is that virtual machine in which most apps run in Android has huge performance hit on app startup. And iOS has 100% native execution.
Not true ever since Android 5.0 and ART.
Yep, ART is much better than the Dalvik VM. Samsung manages to drag ART down too, though.
I thought 5.0 is supposed to be the Best Android Ever (till 6.0 Marshmellow)?
I don't really see complaints about it on other devices.
It is because we are human and we want to have it both ways. We complain about slow updates, and we complain about updates once we get them.
I thought 5.0 is supposed to be the Best Android Ever (till 6.0 Marshmellow)? I don't really see complaints about it on other devices.
It is the best Android ever if you look at the bullet point list of improvements. Huge changes across the board.
If you judge Android releases by how buggy they are, how much battery they eat, or how much memory they leak, then it is the worst Android release in years.
Then you must have missed this entire thread:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2444821
People were having problems with 5.0 long before the S6 was ever released:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...ht-be-due-to-memory-leak-fix-incoming_id64508
The main problem with your device isn't Samsung, it is Lollipop. The worst thing you can pin on Samsung is they haven't given you 5.1 (which barely improves things honestly) and that they will wait FOREVER to give you 6.0 that will fix most of these problems.
Until we have 6.0 though everyone else is in your boat too. Well except those people running Dev Previews of 6.0 on their Nexus 6's.
A lot of those changes with 5.x you are pumping up are under the hood changes. While Camera2 API and ART are great changes, the overall experience with Lollipop is just bad--bad battery, buggy release, annoying heads up notifications, etc.
That ultimately is what matters to the consumer and end user--how does it feel to use the OS. So to me, 4.4 versus 5.1, I get a smoother experience in 5.1 but a tradeoff in terms of battery. Given how supposedly smoothness hasn't really been an issue for some time and most people will overlook a few hiccups, I'd argue that most people ended up with a crappier experience on Lollipop.
It's the software, stupid. I ain't gonna spend $500+ for any phone with a commodized OS, let alone one tainted by carrier and manufacturer musical chairs game of bloatware and lack of updates. To the layman Apple is mobile Jesus in this regard in comparison.
It's the software, stupid. I ain't gonna spend $500+ for any computer with a fully featured OS, let alone one tainted by carrier and manufacturer musical chairs game of bloatware and questionable updates. To the layman iProducts are the computer Jesus in this regard in comparison.
I wouldn't say I'm done with Samsung, but definitely they've taken a spill in my estimation.
I didn't care for the direction they took with the 'thin-for-the-sake-of-thin-at-cost-of-function Galaxy S line, but I kinda understood why they did it. Carrying it over to the Note line was needless, IMO. Now the Note's only selling point is the pen- if you don't care about that, why bother? There's no longer much of anything other than that and perhaps the edge screens that really sets Samsung apart anymore. They went "Me-too, me too!" so now they seem to be making boring "me too" products.
The seemed to get tired of leading, and decided to follow exclusively. (Not that they haven't done a lot of following before now, but now it's strictly that, not leading at much of anything.)
It is what it is. I wouldn't care all that much if I were jazzed for something else made by another company like many here are, I just don't see much currently that interests me at all. The Note 4 is still my pinnacle.
Goofing around with my "free for a month" S6 has just taught me I DO NOT particularly want a Note 5 with the same design elements and lacking features. I just hate the glass back- terrible. I really love 'premium' features that do nothing but add fragility and finger-print magnets to a device, and end up causing many to feel the need to wrap their 'sleeker' device in butt-ugly toddler-wrap. (IE: It's no longer sleek so WTF was the point!?) And for that, the removal of two previous key Samsung strengths? Pure backward steps to me.
I'm personally glad to see others giving up on Samsung though. Hopefully the market will speak. If they want to be just like everyone else, let them take a huge sales hit and only move the much smaller amount of units as most everyone else also. Maybe there's hope (though not holding my breath of course) function will again come back over useless form if sales were to slump enough.
s6 edge owner and I'm done too.. ATROCIOUS battery life, charged full until 7:30 am, dead by 4 pm (only used 2 hours on screen, I was in class most of the day).. I can't believe it, it's actually getting WORSE every update - I got bored of iOS but I'm heading back, i've never hated a phone more..and, my god, is the ergonomics miserable.
Maybe it is faster than Dalvik, but it is still the same thing. Anything that uses garbage collection will never be as fast as native app. Now, there is native C++ toolchain for Android, but it requires skillful developer to use it properly.Not true ever since Android 5.0 and ART.
Improved garbage collection
Garbage collection (GC) can impair an app's performance, resulting in choppy display, poor UI responsiveness, and other problems. ART improves garbage collection in several ways:
- One GC pause instead of two
- Parallelized processing during the remaining GC pause
- Collector with lower total GC time for the special case of cleaning up recently-allocated, short-lived objects
- Improved garbage collection ergonomics, making concurrent garbage collections more timely, which makes GC_FOR_ALLOC events extremely rare in typical use cases
- Compacting GC to reduce background memory usage and fragmentation
s6 edge owner and I'm done too.. ATROCIOUS battery life, charged full until 7:30 am, dead by 4 pm (only used 2 hours on screen, I was in class most of the day).. I can't believe it, it's actually getting WORSE every update - I got bored of iOS but I'm heading back, i've never hated a phone more..and, my god, is the ergonomics miserable.
But don't you run Windows?
I only run into these type of issues with Android phones. On my One Plus One I just updated it to cyanogenmod 10.1 and the battery life was just miserable after the update. Go to sleep the phone is at 100% and when I wake up the battery is at 20%. Look at battery usage and Android System is using battery for some reason, I have to look up online for hours for a fix and eventually flash a different ROM for the fix. I prefer the ability to customize on Android but I never had such issues with my iPhones.