I would've fired you too.
35 bosses says a lot, no matter what industry you're in. At some point you should looks towards yourself and your attitude, and what might be causing this.
well, one argument is all it took! holy shit, im 30 years old, probably worked for 35 different bosses (many in construction so changing guards was common) and i have never been fired. never had a boss who didnt see the value in me even if they didnt really care for me.
but this guy? he says since i dont like him (which i never even hinted at) that im fired.
the argument started yesterday because i went on a service call during my time. i had just been to this guys house, and he paid good money for me to hook up his home theater system. he calls back later and says he cant figure a couple things out.
i knew the boss would charge him more money, but i knew the guy wasnt going to be happy with that. so i told him i will stop by his house on my way home and walk him through some things.
and the boss finds out the next day and is PISSED. he told me i cant be doing things like that, its not my decision and he wanted to know why my attitude was poor the last few weeks. i didnt understand, and i asked him if i had done anything wrong. he said no, but i was turning into the other employee he has and that worries him.
i felt insulted at that point, and i told him that. then he told me to tell him why i felt insulted, and that my attitude needs to change. thats were i kinda lost it, and i told him HIS attitude is whats crap, and its effecting everyone in the shop. this was first minute in the morning, and we worked all day peacefully after that.
well, this morning, he calls and says im fired because i dont like him and hes never had anyone talk to him like that. i said i was just being honest like he asked so we can work things out... but that doesnt matter.
unemployment should be there at least. i JUST got a glowing 3 month review from the guy, with a raise and not a single negative comment on it. if he tries to fight this claim i will be royaly upset..... what an idiot!
he just got done telling me how much i have done for him too. he said i caught the shop up to speed in 4 months when he thought it was going to be another year+. i guess i did too good of a job, because he doesnt need me anymore!
whatever. work was getting slower by the day. 1 out of 10 customers that walked in left happy, because he overcharged the crap out of everyone. getting fired wasnt exactly the plan i had in mind, but at the same time i knew this boat wasnt going to float forever.
just wow. what a feeling! i have always quit my jobs in the past... this is very different! i dont feel bad though, because i certainly didnt warrant this.
It works for many, especially when they need the money and are willing to swallow their ego/tolerate bad bosses.I have never seen such a thread with so much bad advice given to kowtow to a bad boss. Toadies giving toady advice.
I have never seen such a thread with so much bad advice given to kowtow to a bad boss. Toadies giving toady advice.
I have never seen such a thread with so much bad advice given to kowtow to a bad boss. Toadies giving toady advice.
I can't imagine how much the world would suck if engineers thought like this. Someone hands you brutal design that absolutely does not work, and you go ahead and add your own stuff to it without saying how fucked up and broken it is.
Apparently GM had a lot of problems like this. Comments going up the chain were completely ignored. How dare some dealership in Iowa report a bunch of mechanical problems that keep happening to a specific type of car? He's the bottom of the chain! We should ignore everything he says! Bad internal structure destroys a lot of companies
I'm sorry you lost your job, but this is not the correct way to react to the concerns of your boss and future partner. Constructive criticism is what you should aim for. If he wasn't planning to make you partner, you'd probably still have a job. He was looking for a leader who could handle stressful situations in a mature and professional manner when dealing with unhappy customers and employees. You basically showed him that you aren't ready.i told him HIS attitude is whats crap
I would say that is a stretch and I know people in his line of work who have done similar things.That was a customer of the company you worked for. Period. End of argument. What you did could be construed as side work, and stealing from the company. At the very least it's a conflict of interest. There's nothing wrong with doing side work, on your own time, for people who are not existing customers of the company you work for.
Who cares is he treats his employees bad. This shows that you don't know your place. Employees are a tool for someone to use as needed, thats it. You are like a hammer, a chisel, a pen, a drill press or any other tool. Employees only exist because the owner or founder can't do everything themselves. They act like they care to keep you happy sometimes, but really you are an expensive, argumentative, complaining TOOL to be used as needed. So am I, but at least I know it. Had the same job 3 years so far.
Me too, expect I have found the exact opposite to be true. I used to be submissive and passive when a superior jumps in my shit for no good reason or blows something way out of proportion. And I have found that once someone figures out that you'll let them walk all over, you will be walked on forever. So when have a boss, colleague, etc jump in my shit, I yell back and I tell them exactly what's on my mind. I generally won't resort to name calling unless it has already been done to me first. But quite frankly I don't care what the consequences are even if it means termination because I have been in bad supervisor/employee relationships before and I never want to be in one ever again.But he's the boss and you're not. That's just the way it goes. Know your place... :whiste:
It's like when I was kid; I found out easily that I could diffuse my dad in an argument by talking rationally and in a calm manner no matter how angry he was. If I raised my voice and basically got into a shouting match with him (basically me acting like a little shit), it never ended well -- usually resulted in me getting grounded.
I've found that hard lessons learned early come in handy later in life.
now, rape him for his clientele. go about it professionally.
There are a lot of horrible businessmen in this thread.
A service-based company is made or broken by going above and beyond like this. You go by and help a customer out free of charge and you might lose a billable hour. But you gain the best advertisement in the world: recommendation. How many of you have a friend who 'hooked you up' with or otherwise recommended someone to reno your kitchen? Or fix your car without raping you with B.S. charges? Wirednuts was being 'that guy' that your buddy recommended.
Sure the customer can accuse him of stealing, but the burden of proof is still on the accuser, which is hard to prove if it isn't true. And, if you spend a long time dealing with a customer before hand you can use your God-given brain power to assess if you think he's the kind of kook that might try something like that.
In this instance, there is certainly something going on behind the scenes. My guess is that the owner started to realize what it would mean financially to have a 'partner' vs. just an employee. And if things are caught up then it's a good time to cut the fat.
Prediction: If he's not actually closing up the shop front, OP will be getting a cooled-off-buddy-call in the next month, unless he does something to further piss off the ex (snipe customers, start his own bis, etc).
Good on ya.
Yep that's what I'd do. Can even throw a little jabber in there, like make your company slogan "we go above and beyond" which sounds like something this manager was against. Need to keep it professional though, but a little jabber like that is not really directly attacking him.
Can even go visit old clients to let them know if they liked your work, they can now reach you at your new business, and give them a business card. Could even make up little flyers that you just go put in their mailbox, though if you do it personally it shows even more professionalism.
For trades it's probably easier to work for yourself, cut out the middle man. Though it is harder not having a guaranteed income.
I would say that is a stretch and I know people in his line of work who have done similar things.
Me too, expect I have found the exact opposite to be true. I used to be submissive and passive when a superior jumps in my shit for no good reason or blows something way out of proportion. And I have found that once someone figures out that you'll let them walk all over, you will be walked on forever. So when have a boss, colleague, etc jump in my shit, I yell back and I tell them exactly what's on my mind. I generally won't resort to name calling unless it has already been done to me first. But quite frankly I don't care what the consequences are even if it means termination because I have been in bad supervisor/employee relationships before and I never want to be in one ever again.
I will admit that my methods have caused some amount of trouble for me at times, but in the end those methods have spared me from alot more.
And I'm 30 years old. And haven't been without a job since I was 19, and I worked almost 9 years at one company which closed an moved their work to Tennessee. If not for that I would still be there most likely.
You went to a customer off the clock rather than charge him the service call that your company requires?
I would have fired you too.