I'm going Homeless.. Need help on Tent and Woodstove in Wilderness

[nutxo]

What city are you in and how old are you? I may have a solution.

 

[squirrel dog]

I spent some time as a boy scout , then as a Scout Leader . Tent life is dirty,grimy,either way too hot or so cold you cannot get warm . You might want to rethink the tent option .

 

[slayer202]

OP, do you have nobody you trust to give you some help? Do you not believe the vast majority of people here tell you that you need to seek help? If you don't deny you have some mental problems and don't think they can be fixed, how can you trust your own judgement? There are people here willing to guide you but you need to listen. Otherwise there is no point giving you advice or for you to even ask for it

 

[BurnItDwn]

Man, it sounds like you are in some real pain. I don't know your history, but damn it, get some mental help.

The system is broken, but it's better than nothing.
Going homeless and living out in some camp might allow you to dull the pain somewhat, but, it also is putting your health and life at risk.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I knew a guy who gave away all his worldy possessions except for 3 changes of clothes and a sleeping bag!
He actually lives downtown under staircases at night with a tarp that he puts over the sleeping bag and in the daytime nobody messes with the sleeping bag or the tarp because he wraps the tarp around the sleeping bag! After all who wants a tarp stashed under some stairs??

 

[lxskllr]

I knew a guy who gave away all his worldy possessions except for 3 changes of clothes and a sleeping bag!
He actually lives downtown under staircases at night with a tarp that he puts over the sleeping bag and in the daytime nobody messes with the sleeping bag or the tarp because he wraps the tarp around the sleeping bag! After all who wants a tarp stashed under some stairs??

Well, that's better than my idea of a pet skunk.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Well, that's better than my idea of a pet skunk.

Out here on the west coast it is possible to live if your determined enough in the streets! There are a lot of what we call street people. In some citys on the west coast -- not all - but some you will not be bothered by the Police! But thre climate is also another consideration,.
A pet skunk or Alligator would work!!

 

[RichUK]

Not sure if serious.

 

[Hans Gruber]

I remember the tiny house thread. It does not surprise me the OP wants to live out in the woods. Sometimes you have to let people find their own way. Let nature take it's course.

 

[rchunter]

When I lived on Maui they would just pitch tents on the beach, They had a special area where it was allowed. This was the late 80's

If I was ever homeless thats probably where i would go. Hawaii has a major drug and homeless problem though, probably because the weather is so nice most the year.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

You claim to have spent something like $4k on speaker cables and believe that Jesus wants you to be miserable and jobless.

Yes, you need mental help.

Were they at least Monster cables? I've heard from sources that those are totally a great investment choice.

 

[Muse]

This speaks to the movie I saw last night, 2018's "Leave No Trace." It's about a veteran with PTSD who can't stand to live on the grid, so he and his teenage daughter camp out in a park. He gets meds for his PTSD, which he sells for cash to buy supplies.

Myself, I'm really good at living cheap. That movie I watched last night? I checked it out of the local public library for free. I used to have big problems just getting by, couldn't hold a job for long in spite of everything I did. Competition for temp work around here was pretty fierce. I got by although I did get behind on my really cheap rent for a little while. Later I moved to a shared house where we had the cheapest rent I ever heard of... 6 of us. Sharing a house can be a lot cheaper than renting your own apartment.

I know a ton of tricks concerning frugal living (I should write a book). Most people spend way more money than they need to. Of course there are thrift stores. Garage sales, free boxes, public libraries that are free as long as you bring things back on time and don't get fines.

Yes, a bicycle is WAY cheaper than a car. No gas, no insurance. I went 20 years without a car! Didn't have a TV either, no time for that shit. I did all my own bike repairs. Bought a used bike! I've never bought a new bike in my life. Still ride a lot, it's good for the soul! I had one temporary job for a small local publisher and they let us pick books off of pallets to keep, seconds. A few of those were bike maintenance and etc. books. Working temps for 10 years was a struggle but I got to see and experience a lot of different things I never would have if I'd had a career during that period.

I became a do it yourself guy. Acquired tools one by one where ever. Found some I still have! I have a lot of basic hardware stuff in case I need to fix something or hey... improvise something (which can be fun)!

I eventually bought a used sewing machine... I still have and use occasionally.

Adequate nutrition is a challenge, but you can get by pretty cheaply if necessary.

Yeah, cheap rent is important if you're poor and don't want to be homeless.

Hey, man, good luck to you! Hang in there somehow.

 

[Muse]

When I lived on Maui they would just pitch tents on the beach, They had a special area where it was allowed. This was the late 80's

If I was ever homeless thats probably where i would go. Hawaii has a major drug and homeless problem though, probably because the weather is so nice most the year.

I did that. Lived on Maui from 1970-1973. Cheap! Got food stamps, lived on the beach a while, at first at Baldwin Park, Paia. Lived on Makenna beach for a short time on the south side. Lots of people lived on the beach there, just camping out.

Got a job at the Haleakala Dairy up the road toward the volcano, in Makawao. Did that for around 6 months, saved my money. We were given free housing on the dairy in cabins.

Later, bought a 1957 Chevy that had had the back seat removed and a mattress inserted on a piece of plywood. So, it was basically a camper with the addition of a simple propane stove for cooking in the parks.

People were cool, they didn't bother you, and at the time there were a lot of young traveling people who likewise didn't have a lot of money and just enjoyed the beauty and the great weather. I met a lot of great people.

After a time, the locals taught me how to dive for a living, which was a gas.

 

[Muse]

Me lasting a job for weeks takes supernatural miracle... I have to deal with spiritual warfare which is why I can't last a few days at work. If it wasn't for that I would be able to last jobs like you do or everyone else here.

Huh? What's "spiritual warfare?" I understand shit going on in your head, yeah, what specifically is hanging you up or shall I say, troubling you that makes it impossible for you to last in a job for a while?

 

[Muse]

Demons attacking you mentally, spiritually. The stress level can be 10 times harder than the physical world.

Hey, man, cool out! You are fighting demons in your head, but realize, it's in your head. Outside, it's just the real world. That world is filled with all kinds of people, some kind, some smart, some stupid, some are quite nasty. Stay away from the nasty ones. Oh, and avoid the stupid ones when possible. And cool out! Take a deep breath, relax, come down off your mental demon trip. It may take a while, but realize it's all you. You don't want the mental stress you're causing yourself, so let yourself off the hook. I once said to a pretty girl acquaintance I knew many many years ago, "I don't have the right to be happy." I still remember her response, "you were born with the right to be happy!" Let yourself off the hook, man.

 

[Muse]

I used to have zero balance on my credit card, but after coming to God my life is screwed...

In the words of Bob Dylan, "I've got a head full of ideas that are driving me insane." Direct quote from the song "I'm not working on Maggie's Farm no more." That's you right now. I'm thinking you should stop thinking so much about God and get secular. You've got a bunch of shit going on in your head you don't need. Find your way out of that morass of ideas, get new ones. For sure, try working out. Something physical that gets you breathing, tired physically, will relax you. Get some new friends, or at least acquaintances, new experiences. You've got some toxic stuff in your head. Dump it. But "don't throw the baby out with the bath water." Desperation, you don't need.

 

[sportage]

Interesting thread.
I know a few homeless people thru other family members.
We help them often with clothes, water, over the counter medicine, bug spray, sweats and blankets.

This thread is a perfect example of how and why people become homeless in the first place. It should be a guide or a book for understanding how this can happen to people.
Sadly, while help seems the logical solution and desired goal, in todays world there simply isn't much help available out there.
Most states have little or no funding for such matters. Only when it becomes an extreme situation leading to ones death or some unimaginable tragic outcome does the media wake up and take note. Then, society can only wonder why help was not sought out by the poor individual.
Society acts as if the victim could have or should have found that needed help.
When in reality there was no help to be found.

As for hitching up to some homeless camp or group, be careful.
Many of those folks are very unhinged. To such a point that even their own family wants nothing to do with them.
The mental illness can be extreme and the illness quite violent.
With both the men and women.
It is a given that someone in the camp or group will take a strong disliking to you. They will try to push you out. Force you out in ways you can't imagine. Taking your stuff while literally endangering your life.

Then you could try going it alone but that too probably will only make things worse. You mix a mental issue with isolation and the result is a very damaged person incapable of relating to society or to others. You either become a real isolationist and survivalist, or end up deceased.

I don't know what to tell someone on the brink but I do know that finding help of any kind is not easy. Society just does not have the functional ability as most people think. Especially the tax payers are lead to believe.
America has a lot of homeless. And becoming homeless is not by choice. For most people it is their only remaining option.

In my state those in control simply keep shuttling the homeless around.
Forcing them from one place to another by condemning their camps or by condemning the land they camp on.
That works for a while, a season or two, then the camps come back.
Or attempt to come back into the area.
But eventually law enforcement once again moves in to push the camps out. Those camps only to relocate into another area.
It's a vicious circle.
What is missing from all this is any real long term help. The money is there for enforcement, but never for actual help.

I guess the only option is locating to a warm climate to avoid the harsh winters, and then to find an isolated area where the law can't find you. Basically, living off the land and keeping out of sight.
Not easy.
Welcome to the world of Ronald Reagan trickle down.

 

[Muse]

There's a med for that.

That is brilliant!

 

[squirrel dog]

op , this movie reminds me of what you are thinking of . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Into_the_Wild_(film)
It is from the book by the same name . You might want to take a look .

 

[Number1]

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[slayer202]

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[Rifter]

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No kidding, thats insane it only got 1 reply, AT is slipping.

 

[BudAshes]

No kidding, thats insane it only got 1 reply, AT is slipping.

Turned out it was just some babybel cheez stuck to his nuts.

 

[brianmanahan]

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it was in the H&F subforum, nobody reads that

 

[WilliamM2]

You people must be stupid.....

Here is what "cheez" is all about.

Journey to Power Cable Project for my Audio system

Yes it,s about $2000 power cables. Look it up.

Just shows how easily he is influenced be phony claims. Must have been an easy mark for a cult. Sadly I think they did some real damage.