Im going with AM2 ?

[Cali]

I want to upgrade my system to a AM2 mobo but im not shure what to buy. So i need to buy New processor,motherboard and memory.

the only thing i'm keeping is my videocard(GeForce 6600gt PCI-E),My hard-drive (WD74g Sata). I cant keep my DDR memeory because its not compatable with am2. I am going to wait to the drop down in prices. I dont want to spend that much and go with conroe. The only game i will be playing is Counter-strike Source.

Im willing to spend up to 400$on processor, not shure how much a motheboard will cost(100$?) and memory i can figure that out, but will have to be ddr2?

Any suggestions?

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

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[RallyMaster]

what do you have right now?

 

[Cali]

right now i have ASUS K8N4-E deluxe, AMD athlon64 3200+2.16gh

I wanted to stick with ASUS and i was thinking of maybe a X2 4200? not shure what i should go with

 

[DrMrLordX]

Um, if you're willing to spend up to $400 on a processor, why are you going for AM2? Just curious.

You can get an E6300 + board for around $400 and overclock it to 2.8 ghz on air and blow away nearly every OCed AM2 system out there.

The only reason to go with AM2 is if you need to restrict your CPU/motherboard budget to ~$250 or less.

 

[Cali]

well considering the price drop thats going to happen to AMD i will just spend less and go with AM2 because I dont need to spend an extra 100+$ for like a great sysytem when i dont really need it. The only game im going to be playing is CSS

 

[aka1nas]

Edit: NM, I didn't realize the OP is running a socket 754 rig.

How much RAM do you have currently and what specs? If the RAM is decent (1GB+ and PC3200) I would just grab a cheap 939 X2 after the price cut and a good proven 939 board. Neither AM2 or Conroe is going to be tons and tons better than your current setup for the price range you seem to be looking at. AM2 is currently not really any better than 939 unless you go for the newer high-end models that won't come out for socket 939.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Yeah, I agree with aka1nas. AM2 doesn't really offer you anything over s939. It'll be cheaper for you to drop in a s939 X2 after the price cut if you're really looking to save cash.

 

[Cali]

Eventually i will have to upgrade to to AM2 because 939 will be no more. Mine as well upgrade now that way i dont wast $ on old technology

 

[aka1nas]

Originally posted by: Cali
Eventually i will have to upgrade to to AM2 because 939 will be no more. Mine as well upgrade now that way i dont wast $ on old technology

No you don't, that's kind of the point. AM2 will be relatively short-lived and by the time you need to upgrade either a current 939, AM2 or Conroe setup, you will probably want DDR3 and at the very least require a new motherboard.

 

[imported_wicka]

Originally posted by: aka1nas

Originally posted by: Cali
Eventually i will have to upgrade to to AM2 because 939 will be no more. Mine as well upgrade now that way i dont wast $ on old technology

No you don't, that's kind of the point. AM2 will be relatively short-lived and by the time you need to upgrade either a current 939, AM2 or Conroe setup, you will probably want DDR3 and at the very least require a new motherboard.

Why is it that people think AM2 will be so short lived? 939 was only around for 2-3 years before AM2 came along. AM3 is scheduled for Q1 2008, which would make AM2's life about 2 years. Doesn't seem that short.

 

[harpoon84]

Originally posted by: wicka

Originally posted by: aka1nas

Originally posted by: Cali
Eventually i will have to upgrade to to AM2 because 939 will be no more. Mine as well upgrade now that way i dont wast $ on old technology

No you don't, that's kind of the point. AM2 will be relatively short-lived and by the time you need to upgrade either a current 939, AM2 or Conroe setup, you will probably want DDR3 and at the very least require a new motherboard.

Why is it that people think AM2 will be so short lived? 939 was only around for 2-3 years before AM2 came along. AM3 is scheduled for Q1 2008, which would make AM2's life about 2 years. Doesn't seem that short.

Yeah, I see nothing wrong with AM2, it supports current A64s and also future K8L's, what more could you want? K10 support?!

 

[imported_wicka]

Even though you're joking, half of the forum is going to wait for K10

 

[Pederv]

Reasons to choose an AM2 setup over a Conroe setup:
1) K8L dual core may equal or surpass Conroe
2) A quad core is supposed to just drop in
3) Intel may require another platform change to go quad core

Forgot these:
4) Currently Available
5) Price/Performance (Maybe, have to wait until next week to find out.)

 

[imported_wicka]

Originally posted by: Pederv
Reasons to choose an AM2 setup over a Conroe setup:
1) K8L dual core may equal or surpass Conroe
2) A quad core is supposed to just drop in
3) Intel may require another platform change to go quad core

Any reasons why to go Conroe over AM2? I'm killing myself trying to decide right now, and after your post I'm nowhere close to finishing.

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: Pederv
Reasons to choose an AM2 setup over a Conroe setup:
1) K8L dual core may equal or surpass Conroe
2) A quad core is supposed to just drop in
3) Intel may require another platform change to go quad core

1) When it comes in its 2008 scheduled release.

2) 975/965 boards have native Kentsfield, aka Quad Core, support. This has been tested thoroughly at xtremesystems.org

3) Read above.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: Pederv
Reasons to choose an AM2 setup over a Conroe setup:
1) K8L dual core may equal or surpass Conroe
2) A quad core is supposed to just drop in
3) Intel may require another platform change to go quad core

That's a lot of uncertainty

 

[harpoon84]

Originally posted by: wicka

Originally posted by: Pederv
Reasons to choose an AM2 setup over a Conroe setup:
1) K8L dual core may equal or surpass Conroe
2) A quad core is supposed to just drop in
3) Intel may require another platform change to go quad core

Any reasons why to go Conroe over AM2? I'm killing myself trying to decide right now, and after your post I'm nowhere close to finishing.

Nope, Intel sucks, all the review sites have lied to you about Conroe performance, it's all one big conspiracy to make AMD look bad.

Come on man, seriously, if reading Anandtech's (or the 100s of others) review doesn't tell you anything positive about Conroe, nothing will.

Personally, I would only consider AMD2 for the low end. If and when K8L arrives, and provided it outperforms Conroe, I'll simply sell my Conroe system (or use it as a 2nd PC) and grab myself a K8L. Simple.

 

[imported_wicka]

Originally posted by: harpoon84

Originally posted by: wicka

Originally posted by: Pederv
Reasons to choose an AM2 setup over a Conroe setup:
1) K8L dual core may equal or surpass Conroe
2) A quad core is supposed to just drop in
3) Intel may require another platform change to go quad core

Any reasons why to go Conroe over AM2? I'm killing myself trying to decide right now, and after your post I'm nowhere close to finishing.

Nope, Intel sucks, all the review sites have lied to you about Conroe performance, it's all one big conspiracy to make AMD look bad.

I knew it!

Nah, I think I've pretty much decided on Conroe. The one thing that really kept me leaning towards Intel, all performance aside, was simply that I'd never built an Intel system before, and it'd be something new to me.

 

[abs0lut3]

Forget Conroe. Go for Sub-9W Yonah! =P

I'm going AM2 myself because I'm not comfortable over standing pins (get it?) *j/k* I almost didn't go with AM2 if the socket was going to be reversed like Socket T. I'm just not good around pins. I'm waiting until either (a) the price on Conroe drops to AM2 level and (b) Conroe offers at or lower wattage chips compared to AM2 EE. I game but not as much anymore so right now I just want the cheapest way to go low voltage and the answer is Sempron AM2 35W EE.

 

[JM Aggie08]

imo, and this is what im going to do, is buy one of the massive price cut X2's. consider it.

 

[OcHungry]

Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
Um, if you're willing to spend up to $400 on a processor, why are you going for AM2? Just curious.

You can get an E6300 + board for around $400 and overclock it to 2.8 ghz on air and blow away nearly every OCed AM2 system out there.

The only reason to go with AM2 is if you need to restrict your CPU/motherboard budget to ~$250 or less.

So you have bought E6300 and overclocked it to 2.8ghz and did prime 95 for 12 hrs at least and all on stock cooling, no temp or stability problem, and you did some benchmarks to prove it is faster than any AMD?
WTF?
idiots are now talking crap.
Maybe he is like me? hate the craps we hear on the net and decided to just flush any Intel's down the toilet.

 

[mhahnheuser]

Cali why burn your wallet to get a faster pc by buying the most expensive products on the market at the moment?
A shift to Conroe platform will cost a mint and that 6600 GT won't let that platform rise to the max anyway. I'd keep the GPU, RAM and your current CPU, buy a realy nice 939 nForce 4 SLI mobo and a matching 6600GT and go for SLI. You will get an immediate result in FPS in games, and your CPU will hardly battle with 2D software anyway. You've got a nice OC there you may as well get the most out of your system before you quit it. "Oh!" and when the 939 X2 prices drop, how about droping in a neat 4800+ dually just to make you feel good. Neither todays AM2's or any conny is going to blow you away on todays performance numbers.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Cali
right now i have ASUS K8N4-E deluxe, AMD athlon64 3200+2.16gh

I wanted to stick with ASUS and i was thinking of maybe a X2 4200? not shure what i should go with

If all your going to play is counter strike source, you don't need to spend a dime. Just stay where you are. Any platform upgrade for you is just a whim, not a necessity. Save your money. Or get a better video card (not that you would need one for CS:Source). But if anything, vid card upgrade.

 

[Pederv]

Originally posted by: Avalon

Originally posted by: Pederv
Reasons to choose an AM2 setup over a Conroe setup:
1) K8L dual core may equal or surpass Conroe
2) A quad core is supposed to just drop in
3) Intel may require another platform change to go quad core

That's a lot of uncertainty

Choosing a platform is always a gamble. The only thing for certain, is what you can get your hands on at the time you choose to buy.