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raildogg

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For readers who don't know:

Misinformation = News you don't like.
Islamophobe = Information which doesn't hail Islam as the chosen religion of the world.

The Left is very generous while handing out these labels.
You are right about misinformation but there is a lot of Islamophobia coming from India, in particular. Too much Indian and Hindu nationalism going on. I don't think its good for India as it creates too much animosities. India will work better when its minorities are treated better, such as its religious minorities. Harmony and peace between communities will lead to success. Attacking each other on religious or other terms will not. The ruling elites always use this as a tool to gain power.

I see you attacking Hamas on this thread. Do you even know anything about the Israel/Palestine issue or do you just pick sides? Many Indians pick sides because they have their own problems in Kashmir. They are also doing a lot of bad things in Kashmir so kind of similar to Israel in that regard. Though the Indians in Kashmir are not the colonial-settlers the Israelis are. One big difference I guess.
 
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Braznor

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The CAA provides a pathway to Indian citizenship for members of certain religious minority groups who have fled persecution from Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Afghanistan, specifically Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Parsis, and Christians. Muslims are not included in this provision because they are not considered persecuted minorities in these countries.

You guys love to pretend like the CAA only covers Hindus, no, it covers people from a broad, diverse range of religions. The CAA is no form discriminates against the Muslim citizens of India. The CAA applies only to foreigners, not Indian citizens.
 

brycejones

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You are right about misinformation
You and the OP are both dumbasses. Misinformation is false or misleading information, it's objectively identifiable.

Ironically enough you and the OP have propagated misinformation about what misinformation is.
 
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brycejones

Lifer
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The CAA provides a pathway to Indian citizenship for members of certain religious minority groups who have fled persecution from Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Afghanistan, specifically Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Parsis, and Christians. Muslims are not included in this provision because they are not considered persecuted minorities in these countries.

You guys love to pretend like the CAA only covers Hindus, no, it covers people from a broad, diverse range of religions. The CAA in no form discriminates against the Muslim citizens of India. The CAA applies only to foreigners, not Indian citizens.
So by what you're saying here, it specifically discriminates against Muslims and only Muslims full stop.
 

raildogg

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The ruling party of India is a Hindu nationalist party who have a history of antagonizing various communities, including the Muslim community. This move is to gain support from the Hindu base. The Hindu nationalists are running India and they are basically antagonizing anyone who is not them. What do you think the assassinations of the Sikh man in Canada was about? Hindu nationalist government thinking they can do what they want.

The right wing Hindus love this kind of stuff. India showing how strong it is to the world, etc. It's pretty crazy I think considering where the country came from, with people like Gandhi, etc. Now we have nationalists turning India into something very different.
 
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raildogg

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You and the OP are both dumbasses. Misinformation is false or misleading information, it's objectively identifiable.
Saying something is misinformation is how the established narrative is protected. It's great how you left rest of the post out.
 

brycejones

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Which part?
Saying something is misinformation is how the established narrative is protected. It's great how you left rest of the post out.
There you go.....

You're attempting to redefine what the term means. It may be abused yes, but it doesn't change the meaning of the term, it just means it's been used incorrectly. Actual misinformation is objectively identifiable.
 
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raildogg

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There you go.....

You're attempting to redefine what the term means. It may be abused yes, but it doesn't change the meaning of the term, it just means it's been used incorrectly. Actual misinformation is objectively identifiable.
Ok that makes sense. But it's good to see you agree that it is abused.
 

Braznor

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Muslims are not the persecuted minorities of Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan
 

Braznor

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fskimospy

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Does anyone know how persecuted are the Non Muslim citizens of Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan are?

These people face the worst brutal kind of treatment. It's no wonder the Indian government passed the CAA to ensure these people find some level of respite from their suffering.

And the leftoles here call this lifeline 'discriminatory'

Abduction, sexual assault, persecution: ‘Stateless’ documentary shows a window into the how it is to live as a Hindu on Pakistan
Are you this stupid? We think that religious persecution is terrible too.

This is all very simple. You tried to pretend Modi wasn’t an authoritarian persecuting religious minorities. We all know that’s a lie. You then agreed that you LIKE persecuting religious minorities.
 

Braznor

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Are you this stupid? We think that religious persecution is terrible too.

This is all very simple. You tried to pretend Modi wasn’t an authoritarian persecuting religious minorities. We all know that’s a lie. You then agreed that you LIKE persecuting religious minorities.
I'm not talking about religious persecution in general, but specifically about the religious persecution of non muslims in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan. Muslims are not the persecuted minorities of these countries period. And the CAA only applies to foreigners and not Indian citizens.

The fact is that the CAA in no way affects the existing rights of the Muslim citizens of India. So scream all you want, but there is no discrimination here. The CAA is just a law targeting the non Muslim minorities of Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan for citizenships, it has no bearing on the existing citizens of India, whether Hindu or Sikh or Muslim etc.

SO how is the CAA committing 'persecution' of Muslims?
 

Braznor

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The Muslims of Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan can seek Indian persecution through the normal process. The CAA in no way affects that. SO how is this discrimination?
 

fskimospy

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I'm not talking about religious persecution in general, but specifically about the religious persecution of non muslims in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan. Muslims are not the persecuted minorities of these countries period. And the CAA only applies to foreigners and not Indian citizens.

The fact is that the CAA in no way affects the existing rights of the Muslim citizens of India. So scream all you want, but there is no discrimination here. The CAA is just a law targeting the non Muslim minorities of Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan for citizenships, it has no bearing on the existing citizens of India, whether Hindu or Sikh or Muslim etc.

SO how is the CAA committing 'persecution' of Muslims?
Simple question. Do Muslims have the same rights in India as people of other religions?

Yes/no.
 

Braznor

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Simple question. Do Muslims have the same rights in India as people of other religions?

Yes/no.
Absolutely YES. Muslim citizens of India have the same rights as non Muslim citizens.

And I'm waiting for the answers to my questions I asked of you.
 
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Braznor

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Nice dancing there.


Why are you such a lying piece of shit? Don’t you have any dignity or self respect
Don't you have a brain? Where are the answers to the questions I asked of you?

How does the CAA affect the existing Muslim citizens of India? What rights do they lose because of the CAA? So where is the discrimination?

You can play dumb all you like with your ears and eyes shut closed, but it still does not change the fact that the CAA provides relief to the NON Muslim PERSECUTED MINORITIES of Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan. Muslims are not persecuted in these countries and ergo they are not covered under the provisions of the CAA.

Why are you so silent about the persecution faced by Non Muslim minorities in these three countries? Apart from your generic statement that religious discrimination is evil. How would you try to alleviate the suffering to some extent atleast?
 

fskimospy

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Don't you have a brain? Where are the answers to the questions I asked of you?

How does the CAA affect the existing Muslim citizens of India? What rights do they lose because of the CAA? So where is the discrimination?

You can play dumb all you like with your ears and eyes shut closed, but it still does not change the fact that the CAA provides relief to the NON Muslim PERSECUTED MINORITIES of Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan. Muslims are not persecuted in these countries and ergo they are not covered under the provisions of the CAA.
I have asked you a very simple question. Does that law disadvantage people based on their religion.

Yes or no.

You like fighting - I don’t care about fighting. You’re super emotional about this and I don’t care. Just answer the simple question.
 

Braznor

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I have asked you a very simple question. Does that law disadvantage people based on their religion.

Yes or no.

You like fighting - I don’t care about fighting. You’re super emotional about this and I don’t care. Just answer the simple question.
And I answered you multiple times. The law in no way disadvantages Muslim citizens of India. The Muslims of Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan do not fall under the purview of the CAA because they do not comprise the criteria of the act as they are not the persecuted minorities of these three countries.

Now answers to my questions please. You are trying to confuse and obfuscate the way out of this issue.
 
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fskimospy

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And I answered you multiple times. The law in no way disadvantages Muslim citizens of India

Now answers to my questions please. You are trying to confuse and obfuscate the way out of this issue.
You are dancing. Does the law I quoted treat people of all religions equally? Yes or no.

Remember - you already said you think religious discrimination is a good thing and you like it.
 

Braznor

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You are dancing. Does the law I quoted treat people of all religions equally? Yes or no.

Remember - you already said you think religious discrimination is a good thing and you like it.
I don't have to defend myself for imaginary thought crimes you leftists cook up in your fantasies.

Will the US give citizenship to all citizens of Mexico? This is the level of delusion you are expecting off me here.

Still awaiting the answers to the questions I asked off you. The CAA does not discriminate against Muslim citizens of India in no form or manner because the law is meant for application only for non citizens.
 
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