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SirChadwick

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Jul 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: crystal
Originally posted by: SirChadwick
And to add a little more to the story.... get this $#it,

They just sent me a bonus check 1 month ago for $327 (this was owed for lease renewals). Now, just a month later.... they demand that I pay $305. They could have at least put the letter w/ the bonus check. In that case, I never would have spent it.

I guess in your book it is perfectly fine if they send you what they own you even when you don't work there for over 2 months or however how long. But when you have to send back some of the money, then they are the scrump bags and " My old company screws me!" (A whine if I ever heard of one)
and "... I do not plan on paying this." because "I'm in tight with the Property Manager... she's going to try to pull some strings." is some fast weasling in my book.


She is the one who suggested pulling strings... so does that make her the weasel?
 

sao123

Lifer
May 27, 2002
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Originally posted by: Atomicus
Originally posted by: SirChadwick
Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
That really sucks - especially with the holidays here. But unless you can prove you should be paid that rate for those hours, there's nothing you can really do about it.

Maybe you could split it up into two or three payments? It's worth asking if you can't pay the whole thing at one time.

Payments will be my last resort.... I do not plan on keeping my job.

Fixed.

Pay it or lose it. Judging from your reaction, you come off as a very dishonest individual.


he hasnt worked there in 3 months.
Practice your reading skills. Judging from your post, you came off as a duma55.
 

sao123

Lifer
May 27, 2002
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Unless you have formal paystub verification... its all just heresay.
Also either...
a) shens...because youd have found the extra money when you balance your checkbook...
or
b)you are a moron and dont balance your checkbook.


A or B?
 

hg321

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Oct 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: sundevb
Since you're suspicious that they aren't correct, ask them to prove it.


Ask them to send you copies of their accounting files so you can verify that you do owe the money.
 

SirChadwick

Diamond Member
Jul 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: hg321
Originally posted by: sundevb
Since you're suspicious that they aren't correct, ask them to prove it.


Ask them to send you copies of their accounting files so you can verify that you do owe the money.

This will be my 3rd step.
 

ai42

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Jun 5, 2001
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So... Gameplan...
Step 1: Wait 3-4 months
Step 2: Ask them to send accoutning and verification to their overpayment
Step 3: Wait 3-4 months
Step 4: Ask for tax refund on overpaid taxes due to their error or them to reissue a W2, and file for tax refund
Step 5: Wait 3-4 months
Step 6: Pay them back in pennies.
 

Ausm

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: kranky
I don't know what the legalities are, but I suspect even if somehow they can legally come after you, no court would force you to pay.

Five months is a ridiculously long time. And the fact that you no longer work there means that anyone there with half a brain would just shrug their shoulders and eat the loss.

If nothing comes from your friends who still work there trying to work it out, I would write back to Mr./Miss Payroll and Benefits Manager something like this:

"Dear Mr/Miss X:

I received your letter claiming that I was overpaid by ABC Company in the July 15th payroll. I regret that I am unable to send you the $305.00 you requested.

I'm sure you will understand that it is inappropriate to expect me to have to repay any possible errors of this kind five months after the fact.

Regards,
SirChadwick"



I agree! I would tell them to go to hell.


Ausm
 

AreaCode707

Lifer
Sep 21, 2001
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I work in HR and when we've mistakenly paid out a bonus we cannot retrieve it from the employee's account past x number of days without the employee's permission. Given that it's 150 days later, I don't think they can legally get it back from you unless you relinquish it.
 

kranky

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Oct 9, 1999
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I recommend you do not ask for verification. They will have it! That's what alerted them to the error in the first place. Even once they correct for the $13/hr vs. $7/hr issue, they are going to have the evidence to back up their claim.

If you ask for verification, and they provide it, are you going to pay? If not, don't ask for it.
 

SirChadwick

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Jul 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: HotChic
I work in HR and when we've mistakenly paid out a bonus we cannot retrieve it from the employee's account past x number of days without the employee's permission. Given that it's 150 days later, I don't think they can legally get it back from you unless you relinquish it.

Thank you for the info. Very reassuring to hear this, although you don't have an exact day pinpointed for the overpayment refund.
 

habib89

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well it makes sense that they caught it now, cause they usually only do audits once a year probably.. so they didn't know 5 months ago.. and they didn't know 1 month ago when they sent you your bonus... just pay it back, it isn't your money.. of course ask them for proof like the accounting documents and stuff.... i like the tax idea too to have them file the paperwork.. just to be a pain in the ass so that they will be a little more diligent next time.. but pay it back, it's not your money
 

AreaCode707

Lifer
Sep 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: SirChadwick
Originally posted by: HotChic
I work in HR and when we've mistakenly paid out a bonus we cannot retrieve it from the employee's account past x number of days without the employee's permission. Given that it's 150 days later, I don't think they can legally get it back from you unless you relinquish it.

Thank you for the info. Very reassuring to hear this, although you don't have an exact day pinpointed for the overpayment refund.

The time limit is fairly short, well under 2 months, IIRC. It's been a while since I worked on that project.
 

Ranger X

Lifer
Mar 18, 2000
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How can you not know that they overpaid you 5 months ago? Your paycheck should be about the same every pay period so it's absurd to say you didn't notice a $200+ difference in your paycheck. Something tells me you knew and thought you could ride it out until they found out .. and they didn't, until now. Do the right thing and pay it back.

I was once overpaid 16k as a part-time worker (at a rate of $600/hr) and I had to pay that back.
 

SirChadwick

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Originally posted by: habib89
well it makes sense that they caught it now, cause they usually only do audits once a year probably.. so they didn't know 5 months ago.. and they didn't know 1 month ago when they sent you your bonus... just pay it back, it isn't your money.. of course ask them for proof like the accounting documents and stuff.... i like the tax idea too to have them file the paperwork.. just to be a pain in the ass so that they will be a little more diligent next time.. but pay it back, it's not your money

There will be no next time. This company has been nothing but shite to me from day 1 so I really could care less.
 

totalcommand

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Apr 21, 2004
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Originally posted by: SirChadwick
Here's the exact letter they sent me (w/ names, property edited). This was sent to me overnighted FedEX yesterday. The error they are referring to was 5 months ago!!!

RE: Overpayment of funds for payroll on the 7/15 payroll check.

Hello Mr. *****

While performing a routine audit of the payroll, I have found that you were paid in error for hours between 6/21/5 and 6/30/5 for 15.5 hours that were actually RHW (rent hours worked) at $13/hr totaling $201.50. This was due to your transitioning from Statesboro as a CA to Atlanta as a FT permanent employee. As your status change took place the payroll system did not recognize the RHW earnings code and paid you for those hours. This was paid on check #0405984. In addition, duplicate payment was processed for the July 4th Holiday on check #0405984 and #0405985 in the amount of $104.00 gross each.

This letter is to request that you RETURN the overpayment amount to our Management Group. The amount due back to Place is $104.00 plus $201.50 for a grand total of $305.50. Please make the check payable to ***** Management Group and send it to my attention: **************edited*************

Thanks so much for your cooperation in this manner,

Sincerely,

******** ********
Payroll and Benefits Manager

I cannot believe they are pulling this due to their own error. Has this happened to any of you before? Is it legal to demand me to repay it after 150 days??? If you are into law or know more info on this, please inform me. Thanks so much.


talk to a lawyer, not ATOT
 

SirChadwick

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Originally posted by: Ranger X
How can you not know that they overpaid you 5 months ago? Your paycheck should be about the same every pay period so it's absurd to say you didn't notice a $200+ difference in your paycheck. Something tells me you knew and thought you could ride it out until they found out .. and they didn't, until now. Do the right thing and pay it back.

I was once overpaid 16k as a part-time worker (at a rate of $600/hr) and I had to pay that back.

WRONG! I worked as an onsite technician and leasing consultant. We received various monthly bonuses depending on how many leases/renewals we signed. I was also owed a bonus from working at another site w/ the same company so the paycheck seemed correct at the time. Otherwise, I would have spoken up immediately.
 

stnicralisk

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Was the letter sent to you certified? If not I wouldnt admit to having recieved notification.

NM I see FEDEX. I would go look up the law on how long they have to retrieve money at your local library.
 

SirChadwick

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Jul 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: stnicralisk
Was the letter sent to you certified? If not I wouldnt admit to having recieved notification.

It was FedEX overnight delivery. I will have to check to see if it was certified when I get home.... but I don't imagine it was. FedEX left it on my doorstep!

Anywho, it's already too late to say I didn't receive it... I've talked w/ my former boss and property manager about the whole ordeal. She is dumbfounded that they would even send me a letter after all they've already put me through. I won't get into every issue that I've been though w/ this company... too much of a headache to even type.
 

stnicralisk

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Jan 18, 2004
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Originally posted by: SirChadwick
Originally posted by: stnicralisk
Was the letter sent to you certified? If not I wouldnt admit to having recieved notification.

It was FedEX overnight delivery. I will have to check to see if it was certified when I get home.... but I don't imagine it was. FedEX left it on my doorstep!


It will count as you having recieved it. If it was regular mail there would be no receipt of a sending, Fedex theyll have something saying they sent you notification.
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Why do people even bother asking for this kind of advice on ATOT?

Unless this letter came certified from an attorney's office representing your previous employer (which it sounds like it didn't), I would ignore this. It's been 5 months, you don't work there any more, the amount is too small to bother with the legal remedies that would be required for collection, and it was their fsck up in the first place.
 

BlueWeasel

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Jun 2, 2000
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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: Atomicus
Originally posted by: SirChadwick
Originally posted by: SmoochyTX
That really sucks - especially with the holidays here. But unless you can prove you should be paid that rate for those hours, there's nothing you can really do about it.

Maybe you could split it up into two or three payments? It's worth asking if you can't pay the whole thing at one time.

Payments will be my last resort.... I do not plan on keeping my job.

Fixed.

Pay it or lose it. Judging from your reaction, you come off as a very dishonest individual.


he hasnt worked there in 3 months.
Practice your reading skills. Judging from your post, you came off as a duma55.

:laugh:
 

Jeraden

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I work in the payroll department of a company (not this one obviously). This kind of stuff happens frequently. People get overpaid/underpaid all the time. A lot of times its not caught for many many months - frequently towards the end of the year as thats the time everyone starts balancing their accounts to get ready for tax time. Depending on the amount, sometimes we don't bother going after people that already terminated.
 

vood0g

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well, first i would see if they really did overpay you. if you are not sure, then i would ask for verification. if you are sure that they did not overpay you then tell them to fvckoff. if they did in fact pay you, then give them back their sh!t. 5 months isn't too long. statute of limitations is typically two years so they have that long to go after you for their negligence.

anyhow, even if it is more than two years, and they did overpay you, i would give them back their money cuz karma is a bitch.
 
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