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zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Just like anyone else, hearing the news in the beginning has been really uncomfortable. It reminded me of that Columbine High. Incident where some of the people I knew back then were shot. Now that I hear that this rampage was done by a S. Korean, I feel sick in the stomach. That would be because I, too, happened to be S. Korean studying abroad.

I, of course, do not think the killer being Korean has anything to do with this rampage. An individual psycho is a psycho no matter what his nationality happens to be. I do not see any connection between him being psycho to nationality of his. Damn?.I?m already defending myself.

Anyway, I?m curious how this would impact views on Koreans in general. From what I know and based on my experiences, most of Americans can?t distinguish the difference between N. Korea and S. Korea. Whenever there was a N. Korea issue, I hated how I had to explain that I?m from S. Korea and the differences in between N and S Korea is so huge that it?s not even comparable. On top of that, now that this has happened, I?m just speechless.
What do you Americans think this about the killer being Korean? Beside you, what do you think how other Americans would view it?

Well?.this whole situation where I feel sorry for the dead, worrying about myself as well as other Koreans just make me sick in the stomach.

WTF? The only difference between a North and South Korean is a political boundry drawn on a map. I doubt anyone in the world can tell the difference other than a Korean and them only after conversing with the person.

Someone beat you with the stupid stick? N. Korea is communist, repressed, etc. S. Korea is a modernized country, with lots of freedoms. It's like saying East & West Germany during the cold war were the same.

Read much? Place a North and South Korean in a room and tell me which is which without talking to them. Show me where I said the 2 countries were the same? Perhaps you and the OP were the ones beaten with a stupid stick.

We weren't talking about the looks. We were talking about the difference in two very different nations. What I said in the original post is about how I hate it when I have to explain the difference even after I've stated that I'm from S. Korea.


yeah, I had no problem understanding deadtrees' initial point. Not sure why Linflas turned it into an issue about appearance, and displayed some pretty thick arrogance...whether or not that was his intent
 

lyssword

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Dec 15, 2005
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I feel sorry that now all Korean-Americans have to be ashamed, even though they have nothing in common with that psycho. And also sorry that a lot of American idiots associate actions of 1 person with entire nationality and even whole race..
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: invidia
You believing in a different God from anyone else kills more people than wars, drugs and health issues.

you know that christians , jews and muslims all believe in the same God, the God of Abraham ?

doesn't stop us from killing each other over it

well, if you just mean killing, maybe. But no war has ever started over Religion. Ever. religion is a tool to dupe the masses into going along with war. Politicians/Leaders start wars, and it's always for reasons far removed from religion.

Besides, I highly doubt that Bin Laden's crusade has anything to do with religion. Extremist Islam is merely a strong recruiting tool. Convince an impoverished, disillusioned, and/or friendless young muslim that he can ascend to heaven by killing said group of persons...it doesn't matter what your intent is in telling him to do it; what matters is what convinces him to do it. Bin Laden is one rich mofo; and he knows just as well as any historian that the best way to spark a mass movement of individuals to support your cause is to do it through religion.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: JS80
apparently the parents own a dry cleaners.

I wouldn't be surprised. In Northern VA 99% of dry cleaners are owned by Koreans.

At first they were making millions. It was very obvious by the kind of lifestyle they had. Then all the other Koreans started to copy them. Now they probably make 1/10 what they used to. Still good money, but those who got in on it first made $$

Where I live they have Korean shopping centers all over the place.
Annandale, VA. 90% of the doctors, dentists, restaurants, are all Korean. 90%+ of the Internet gaming places, dry cleaners, and bars = Korean.

They are smart people. They managed to establish a strong foot in the heart of redneck, VA.


Well, according to Patrick Bateman, no one gets out blood stains better than Korean dry cleaners....
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Just like anyone else, hearing the news in the beginning has been really uncomfortable. It reminded me of that Columbine High. Incident where some of the people I knew back then were shot. Now that I hear that this rampage was done by a S. Korean, I feel sick in the stomach. That would be because I, too, happened to be S. Korean studying abroad.

I, of course, do not think the killer being Korean has anything to do with this rampage. An individual psycho is a psycho no matter what his nationality happens to be. I do not see any connection between him being psycho to nationality of his. Damn?.I?m already defending myself.

Anyway, I?m curious how this would impact views on Koreans in general. From what I know and based on my experiences, most of Americans can?t distinguish the difference between N. Korea and S. Korea. Whenever there was a N. Korea issue, I hated how I had to explain that I?m from S. Korea and the differences in between N and S Korea is so huge that it?s not even comparable. On top of that, now that this has happened, I?m just speechless.
What do you Americans think this about the killer being Korean? Beside you, what do you think how other Americans would view it?

Well?.this whole situation where I feel sorry for the dead, worrying about myself as well as other Koreans just make me sick in the stomach.

WTF? The only difference between a North and South Korean is a political boundry drawn on a map. I doubt anyone in the world can tell the difference other than a Korean and them only after conversing with the person.

Someone beat you with the stupid stick? N. Korea is communist, repressed, etc. S. Korea is a modernized country, with lots of freedoms. It's like saying East & West Germany during the cold war were the same.

Read much? Place a North and South Korean in a room and tell me which is which without talking to them. Show me where I said the 2 countries were the same? Perhaps you and the OP were the ones beaten with a stupid stick. Most Americans understand very well the differences between the 2 countries political systems etc. I took the OPs original post to mean that Americans could not tell the difference between a Korean from NK and a Korean from SK and that is what I was addressing.

To the point of his original post however I doubt there will be any backlash against Koreans or Asians in general due to this incident. There is no history of Asians committing terrorist acts in the US or in the world generally.

There are differences but yes, without speaking to them it would probably be fairly difficult if you have limited exposure to asian people. Getting out of Bumblefuck, USA and going to a big University helps a lot. I knew a North Korean and a South Korean kid freshmen year, their mannerisms, style and way of talking were pretty different and though it may be attributed to just chance they did have some recognizable facial differences. How they talked was huge though. Very different. I would imagine it would be like a guy from New York and a guy from Tennessee trying to speak another language like Korean. Verbal tendencies from their base languages would carry over and make two distinct talking patterns as well as pronouncements.


I find that CHinese and Japanese folks are quite easy to distinguish from one another, and in many cases Vietnamese. Koreans tend to be difficult for me, but I've picked up on a few visual landmarks that seem consistent. I still confuse Thai with Vietnamese though...
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: s0ssos
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: invidia
You believing in a different God from anyone else kills more people than wars, drugs and health issues.

you know that christians , jews and muslims all believe in the same God, the God of Abraham ?

doesn't stop us from killing each other over it

they don't believe in the same God

yes they do. this error has been corrected numerous times on these forums as well as many other places god of Christians = god of Jews = god of Muslims.


yeah. pretty clear when reading the Talmud, the Bible, the Quran. I didn't kwno that so many people were unaware of this...is it recent-event imposed denial? Revisionist belief?
 

manowar821

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Mar 1, 2007
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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: s0ssos
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: invidia
You believing in a different God from anyone else kills more people than wars, drugs and health issues.

you know that christians , jews and muslims all believe in the same God, the God of Abraham ?

doesn't stop us from killing each other over it

they don't believe in the same God

yes they do. this error has been corrected numerous times on these forums as well as many other places god of Christians = god of Jews = god of Muslims.


yeah. pretty clear when reading the Talmud, the Bible, the Quran. I didn't kwno that so many people were unaware of this...is it recent-event imposed denial? Revisionist belief?

"allah" also translates directly to "god" or "The one true god" in English. They're talking about the same god as the christian and the jewish when they say it.

It actually amuses me to no end when people relate "allah" to a foreign and different entity... It used to piss me off, but now it's just funny. Someone from work still argues this with me even though I've proven it to him several times. Creationists are funny.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: s0ssos
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: invidia
You believing in a different God from anyone else kills more people than wars, drugs and health issues.

you know that christians , jews and muslims all believe in the same God, the God of Abraham ?

doesn't stop us from killing each other over it

they don't believe in the same God

yes they do. this error has been corrected numerous times on these forums as well as many other places god of Christians = god of Jews = god of Muslims.


yeah. pretty clear when reading the Talmud, the Bible, the Quran. I didn't kwno that so many people were unaware of this...is it recent-event imposed denial? Revisionist belief?

"allah" also translates directly to "god" or "The one true god" in English. They're talking about the same god as the christian and the jewish when they say it.

It actually amuses me to no end when people relate "allah" to a foreign and different entity... It used to piss me off, but now it's just funny. Someone from work still argues this with me even though I've proven it to him several times. Creationists are funny.


He's creationist too? that explains a lot. I think I've coined a new term: "Revisionist belief"
 

Leejai

Golden Member
Jul 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Just like anyone else, hearing the news in the beginning has been really uncomfortable. It reminded me of that Columbine High. Incident where some of the people I knew back then were shot. Now that I hear that this rampage was done by a S. Korean, I feel sick in the stomach. That would be because I, too, happened to be S. Korean studying abroad.

I, of course, do not think the killer being Korean has anything to do with this rampage. An individual psycho is a psycho no matter what his nationality happens to be. I do not see any connection between him being psycho to nationality of his. Damn?.I?m already defending myself.

Anyway, I?m curious how this would impact views on Koreans in general. From what I know and based on my experiences, most of Americans can?t distinguish the difference between N. Korea and S. Korea. Whenever there was a N. Korea issue, I hated how I had to explain that I?m from S. Korea and the differences in between N and S Korea is so huge that it?s not even comparable. On top of that, now that this has happened, I?m just speechless.
What do you Americans think this about the killer being Korean? Beside you, what do you think how other Americans would view it?

Well?.this whole situation where I feel sorry for the dead, worrying about myself as well as other Koreans just make me sick in the stomach.

WTF? The only difference between a North and South Korean is a political boundry drawn on a map. I doubt anyone in the world can tell the difference other than a Korean and them only after conversing with the person.

haha...that's like saying you can't tell the difference between people that live in CA vs. TX after conversing with them. Or even North Chinese vs. South Chinese....huge differences.
 

StormRider

Diamond Member
Mar 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: Aimster
0roo0roo is Chinese ... so I take it the Chinese people view the Koreans as "less" than them?

Anything's possible. I'm Chinese too but I don't recall ever hearing this view from my parents so I wouldn't know. From the aspect of marriage, I would think most asian parents would prefer their sons/daughters marry someone from the same ethnic asian branch.

From my personal experience, I must admit that I probably stereotype Korean males as being "tougher" than other asian males -- just something about the way some of the ones I've seen walk or look or something. I've never had any problems with them though.
 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Aimster
0roo0roo is Chinese ... so I take it the Chinese people view the Koreans as "less" than them?

no its just a fact, when the us went into korea they were still mostly a country of farmers. its just history. and its part of their psych, which is why they are so against things like importing us rice and such.

i don't know why people are so offended i called them the black people of asia. is that an insult? whos racist?

fact is they have done better than any african nation of course, but lets not pretend the advancement wasn't very recent and that such things do not have impact on society and culture of a people. there is a lag.

How are blacks farmers? Can you name one black farmer?

Chinese must be the Mexicans of Asia - they breed like rabbits and are cheap labor :roll:

Koreans are like superior royalty of Asia - they are the pinnacle of the Asian Tigers in creativity and productivity.
 

RollWave

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May 20, 2003
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Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: Phokus
Be glad you're not of middle eastern decent, they got the worst harassment after 9/11 from so-called "patriotic americans"

this is true...and sikhs were shot and killed because people thought they were middle eastern.

This harassment still hasnt stopped.
 

Deadtrees

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Dec 31, 2002
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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Eghck
Originally posted by: uhohs
Originally posted by: blustori
I am korean and moved to Northern Virginia from Maryland a couple of years ago. Some of the things I have noticed for a while now is that a lot of korean kids/people here are spoiled. When their parents are working 24/7, they're obviously not watching what their kids are doing. Also, when you see high school kids with BMWs and Benz, you know something isn't right. And, when you go to coffee shops around this area, there are a lot of asian kids, especially on weekends. They are very loud and have no consideration for the people around them. This generates many stereotypes and fuels racism.

The overall feeling I get from the majority korean population here is that they are materialistic. They always talk about cars, houses, jobs, Ivy League schools; it gets quite annoying. I just want to say that I am against this kind of lifestyle, and I do not represent this group of korean people. People like this obviously ruin it for others. Although it's not right, society has a way of blaming a particular race whenever something bad happens.

sounds like koreans here in socal. lol. :Q

to be honest, I think its built into their culture. There are of course exceptions, but generally I've been told by my fellow korean friends, that Koreans have a very strong sense of pride as well as a heavy concept of "keeping face" or as we usually say "keeping up with the joneses".

koreans are considered the black people of asians. lack of culture, most koreans were farmers not that long ago.

Wow...I'm speechless. What's more shocking is that you're Chinese????
In that last sentence of yours, you managed to diss not only Korean but blacks and farmers as well. How retarded is that?

What makes you think and based on what evidence can you say that Koreans lack of culture?
Korea isn't the country that had undergone that madness called 'culture revolution.'

If Korea lacks culture, why was that TV drama 'DaeJangKum' such a huge hit in China? Based on your logic, it'd be because you guys do not have culture that dates back to several hundred years?
Why is the movie 'Host' happens to be No.1 movie in Chinese box office?
Why is that so many Korean dramas, singers, movies are so damn poplular in China?






 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
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Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: Dacalo
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

koreans are considered the black people of asians. lack of culture, most koreans were farmers not that long ago.

Wow, what a dumb fvck you are.

haha don't mind 0roo0roo...he's a tool, as evident by his posts.

i have many good korean friends... and they're highly cultured.

what culture the koreans DO have is mostly derived from Confucionism. when i was in Korea, i met a chinese person studying in korea. he said to me, he was amazed at how confusionist the koreans were. he felt that korea was the last bastion of confucionism.

so, yes, koreans have no culture, except that the culture they do have is chinese.

 

Fraggable

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When I think Korean my first thought is about a book I read called 'Eyes of the Tailless Animals' by someone who had been in N. Korean prisons for years. Then next thing I think of is the stuff in the news about their nuclear experiments and refusal to comply with the UN and it kind of pisses me off. I see another Iraq coming.

But if I see a Korean on the street I see them as another person, I don't hate them because of their nationality. On the other hand, I can barely distinguish one asian from another so I'd probably have no clue they were korean and not Chinese or something.
 

Dacalo

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

koreans are considered the black people of asians. lack of culture, most koreans were farmers not that long ago.

Um, how do you think your friend Mao managed such a large mob behind him during the revolution? Oh yea that's right, they were farmers!


 

RayH

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Originally posted by: Squisher
I can say that the only stereotypical thought that popped into my head when I found out he was Asian was that I wondered if his parent's pressures on him to excel caused him to snap.

Not just your average stereotypical Asian parent pressure but first generation in the US, Asian parents with only son who grows up under American culture majoring in English in a non Ivy league school type pressure.
 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: RayH
Originally posted by: Squisher
I can say that the only stereotypical thought that popped into my head when I found out he was Asian was that I wondered if his parent's pressures on him to excel caused him to snap.

Not just your average stereotypical Asian parent pressure but first generation in the US, Asian parents with only son who grows up under American culture majoring in English in a non Ivy league school type pressure.

The dude has a sister that graduated from Princeton.
 

glutenberg

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: RayH
Originally posted by: Squisher
I can say that the only stereotypical thought that popped into my head when I found out he was Asian was that I wondered if his parent's pressures on him to excel caused him to snap.

Not just your average stereotypical Asian parent pressure but first generation in the US, Asian parents with only son who grows up under American culture majoring in English in a non Ivy league school type pressure.

The dude has a sister that graduated from Princeton.

Of my friends, I would say the Koreans had the most pressure from parents. I'm Chinese and although there was quite a bit of pressure to excel in academics, it was never the same level as most of my Korean friends. By the way, 0roo0roo is silly, please don't let his beliefs lead you to believe that his are the norm.
 

Deadtrees

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: Dacalo
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

koreans are considered the black people of asians. lack of culture, most koreans were farmers not that long ago.

Wow, what a dumb fvck you are.

haha don't mind 0roo0roo...he's a tool, as evident by his posts.

i have many good korean friends... and they're highly cultured.

what culture the koreans DO have is mostly derived from Confucionism. when i was in Korea, i met a chinese person studying in korea. he said to me, he was amazed at how confusionist the koreans were. he felt that korea was the last bastion of confucionism.

so, yes, koreans have no culture, except that the culture they do have is chinese.

It's true that Confusionism happens to be one of the main values in Korea.
However, how can you possibly claim that Koreans have no culture just because confusionism is from China?
Korea that has 5000 years of history - confucionsim that came some hundred years = no culture???

If what you're saying is right, can I say that Chinese has no culture since the Culture Revolution and that Communism not from China?
Can I say Americans have no culture because Christianism isn't from America???
 

Vic

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What does the killer's race or ethnicity have to do with anything? Why do people even make threads like this?
 

Dacalo

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

what culture the koreans DO have is mostly derived from Confucionism. when i was in Korea, i met a chinese person studying in korea. he said to me, he was amazed at how confusionist the koreans were. he felt that korea was the last bastion of confucionism.

so, yes, koreans have no culture, except that the culture they do have is chinese.

Don't let you ignorance become facts, thanks. Obviously, you have no idea about Korean culture and history (even though I think you are of Korean heritage?).
 

ballmode

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I'm half lao in Indiana. People aren't talking about it as much... maybe desensitized or it hasn't sunk in yet.

I do fear... but I also respond to the questions by saying that Korean was a sharpshooter... 32 people with pistols... 9mm at that...

almost Jack Bauerish
 
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