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SirStev0

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Nov 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: Aimster
I didn't think North Koreans came to the U.S? How did they manage that?

I had a buddy freshman year who was North Korean. His family was loaded, I never really asked because he was always very private about it. I assumed they were probably politicians or big business people. He went to a ritzy private school in Canada and then went to Penn State. Not sure how it worked, again he was sensitive about talking about North Korea and such.
The kid was also a huge stoner and highly entertaining. He could also be a pretty big asswhole. Loved to throwing around the money he had, especially on gambling. Wore expensive stuff, drove a supped up something or another. Very much the "I am a Rich Foreigner" motif that so many foreigners have when they actually come from a fairly well off family

I knew quite a few kids like this and not because they were friends. I tend to see the rich foreign kids like to invade groups by themselves so they can try to be the center of attention. I also knew an Armenian kid, a Pakistani, a Frenchy, and two Russian kids who all basically acted the same exact way. Insistence on expensive flashy clothes that they talk about all the time, buying ridiculously, and I mean ridiculously, overpriced liquor, all being into pretty heavy drugs, working on business majors, and being frat boys. They also tended to never get into what their parents do and generally tried to make it seem that they were of noble or royal heritage or some bs like that.

I came from a pretty rural area and most of the non-american people in my area were all just as poor as the rest of us. It wasn't until college that I was exposed to them and why I found them so interesting and could categorize them all in the same group unlike other people who posted earlier who seemed to make it seem that everyone who was korean was like this. My friends who went to bigger richer high schools, were closer to cities, or went to private school seemed pretty accustomed to the "rich foreign" kids.
 

s0ssos

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Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: invidia
You believing in a different God from anyone else kills more people than wars, drugs and health issues.

you know that christians , jews and muslims all believe in the same God, the God of Abraham ?

doesn't stop us from killing each other over it

they don't believe in the same God
 

SirStev0

Lifer
Nov 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: s0ssos
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: invidia
You believing in a different God from anyone else kills more people than wars, drugs and health issues.

you know that christians , jews and muslims all believe in the same God, the God of Abraham ?

doesn't stop us from killing each other over it

they don't believe in the same God

yes they do. this error has been corrected numerous times on these forums as well as many other places god of Christians = god of Jews = god of Muslims.
 

Eeezee

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THE AXIS OF EVIL HAS BEGUN ITS ATTACK ON AMERICA, WE NEED TO MOBILIZE TEH TROOPZ!
 

s0ssos

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Feb 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: Eghck
Originally posted by: uhohs
Originally posted by: blustori
I am korean and moved to Northern Virginia from Maryland a couple of years ago. Some of the things I have noticed for a while now is that a lot of korean kids/people here are spoiled. When their parents are working 24/7, they're obviously not watching what their kids are doing. Also, when you see high school kids with BMWs and Benz, you know something isn't right. And, when you go to coffee shops around this area, there are a lot of asian kids, especially on weekends. They are very loud and have no consideration for the people around them. This generates many stereotypes and fuels racism.

The overall feeling I get from the majority korean population here is that they are materialistic. They always talk about cars, houses, jobs, Ivy League schools; it gets quite annoying. I just want to say that I am against this kind of lifestyle, and I do not represent this group of korean people. People like this obviously ruin it for others. Although it's not right, society has a way of blaming a particular race whenever something bad happens.

sounds like koreans here in socal. lol. :Q

to be honest, I think its built into their culture. There are of course exceptions, but generally I've been told by my fellow korean friends, that Koreans have a very strong sense of pride as well as a heavy concept of "keeping face" or as we usually say "keeping up with the joneses".

actually, it's not the same thing as "keeping up with the joneses". it's a completely different concept.
and it's the reason a lot of people in korea are ashamed. see, this person is a korean. that isn't just a statement of fact. it's a statement of identity. this person represents koreans in general, the race as a whole. and by doing this thing, he is bringing shame to koreans all over.
the concept is a foreign one, of "keeping face". it'd be hard to explain to an america, cause it's not inherent in our culture. the american culture is one of individualism. i do what i do. and i don't think about the consequences to other people. i would never think about how this would affect the reputation of my race throughout the world. i might think about it affecting my family, and people hating them. but that's about it. but basically, i don't care-i just do what i want to do. all that matters is how it affects me.
and that is completely different from a culture where the whole is greater than the individual. where one gives up one's own desires/happiness/etc for the good of the whole
 

Mani

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Aug 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Americans would think Korean= people from a nuke crazy, people dying in hunger country + psycho mass murder.

You forgot dog-eating and starcraft-playing.
 

SirStev0

Lifer
Nov 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Americans would think Korean= people from a nuke crazy, people dying in hunger country + psycho mass murder.

You forgot dog-eating and starcraft-playing.

zing. especially the sc.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: Aimster
0roo0roo is Chinese ... so I take it the Chinese people view the Koreans as "less" than them?

no its just a fact, when the us went into korea they were still mostly a country of farmers. its just history. and its part of their psych, which is why they are so against things like importing us rice and such.

i don't know why people are so offended i called them the black people of asia. is that an insult? whos racist?

fact is they have done better than any african nation of course, but lets not pretend the advancement wasn't very recent and that such things do not have impact on society and culture of a people. there is a lag.
 

Squisher

Lifer
Aug 17, 2000
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I can say that the only stereotypical thought that popped into my head when I found out he was Asian was that I wondered if his parent's pressures on him to excel caused him to snap.

 

sisq0kidd

Lifer
Apr 27, 2004
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Originally posted by: Squisher
I can say that the only stereotypical thought that popped into my head when I found out he was Asian was that I wondered if his parent's pressures on him to excel caused him to snap.

heh. I still think the killer is white.
 

s0ssos

Senior member
Feb 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: s0ssos
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: invidia
You believing in a different God from anyone else kills more people than wars, drugs and health issues.

you know that christians , jews and muslims all believe in the same God, the God of Abraham ?

doesn't stop us from killing each other over it

they don't believe in the same God

yes they do. this error has been corrected numerous times on these forums as well as many other places god of Christians = god of Jews = god of Muslims.

actually, let's follow your logic-so, if God were an absolute thing, a real thing, and were the same for Christians, Jews, and Moslems, then that would mean God is telling His followers to fight-and no, that's not what these religions would say about God.
now, if God weren't absolute, but what one thinks about God, then these religions believe in different Gods. they portray God in different ways-therefore it is a different God for each of them
 

sisq0kidd

Lifer
Apr 27, 2004
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Originally posted by: s0ssos
actually, let's follow your logic-so, if God were an absolute thing, a real thing, and were the same for Christians, Jews, and Moslems, then that would mean God is telling His followers to fight-and no, that's not what these religions would say about God.
now, if God weren't absolute, but what one thinks about God, then these religions believe in different Gods. they portray God in different ways-therefore it is a different God for each of them

No, God does not control your actions. You control them.

Same God, different interpretations by different people.

Now using your logic, you and everyone in your church worship a different God since each and every one of you follow Him differently.
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Islam Christianity and Judaism believe in the same God.
They were all created from the same tree.

If the world functioned like Stargate where every world/human spoke English then maybe that would help you understand better. Unfortunately we do not live in a Stargate fantasy world. The world in which we live in has different languages.

They might name their God differently, but their religious books clearly say that their God is the God of all people.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Just like anyone else, hearing the news in the beginning has been really uncomfortable. It reminded me of that Columbine High. Incident where some of the people I knew back then were shot. Now that I hear that this rampage was done by a S. Korean, I feel sick in the stomach. That would be because I, too, happened to be S. Korean studying abroad.

I, of course, do not think the killer being Korean has anything to do with this rampage. An individual psycho is a psycho no matter what his nationality happens to be. I do not see any connection between him being psycho to nationality of his. Damn?.I?m already defending myself.

Anyway, I?m curious how this would impact views on Koreans in general. From what I know and based on my experiences, most of Americans can?t distinguish the difference between N. Korea and S. Korea. Whenever there was a N. Korea issue, I hated how I had to explain that I?m from S. Korea and the differences in between N and S Korea is so huge that it?s not even comparable. On top of that, now that this has happened, I?m just speechless.
What do you Americans think this about the killer being Korean? Beside you, what do you think how other Americans would view it?

Well?.this whole situation where I feel sorry for the dead, worrying about myself as well as other Koreans just make me sick in the stomach.

P.S: I'm worried because I know what those Middle Eastern people has been going through since 9/11. On top of that, as I've mentioned, Americans don't seem to know the difference between N. and S. Korea and that I fear Americans would think Korean= people from a nuke crazy, people dying in hunger country + psycho mass murder.
lose your signature.
 

MrToilet

Senior member
Feb 28, 2005
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Since when did AT become a race bashing site? And to all you people who judge an entire race by the 3 Korean people you know, is that even fair? If I judge the entire white race by some of the people I deal with in the ER, I can say that they are all obese slobs who smoke a pack a day, yell at their kids, don't shower and smell like crap. Is that fair to white people?
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: MrToilet
Since when did AT become a race bashing site? And to all you people who judge an entire race by the 3 Korean people you know, is that even fair? If I judge the entire white race by some of the people I deal with in the ER, I can say that they are all obese slobs who smoke a pack a day, yell at their kids, don't shower and smell like crap. Is that fair to white people?
Did you read this thread MrToilet? Or are you jumping to conclusions?
 

zixxer

Diamond Member
Jul 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: MrToilet
Since when did AT become a race bashing site? And to all you people who judge an entire race by the 3 Korean people you know, is that even fair? If I judge the entire white race by some of the people I deal with in the ER, I can say that they are all obese slobs who smoke a pack a day, yell at their kids, don't shower and smell like crap. Is that fair to white people?

You're a moron. Not because you're Korean, but because you were born that way.

Noone is bashing ANY race in this thread.. wtf?
 

MrToilet

Senior member
Feb 28, 2005
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Originally posted by: uhohs
Originally posted by: blustori
I am korean and moved to Northern Virginia from Maryland a couple of years ago. Some of the things I have noticed for a while now is that a lot of korean kids/people here are spoiled. When their parents are working 24/7, they're obviously not watching what their kids are doing. Also, when you see high school kids with BMWs and Benz, you know something isn't right. And, when you go to coffee shops around this area, there are a lot of asian kids, especially on weekends. They are very loud and have no consideration for the people around them. This generates many stereotypes and fuels racism.

The overall feeling I get from the majority korean population here is that they are materialistic. They always talk about cars, houses, jobs, Ivy League schools; it gets quite annoying. I just want to say that I am against this kind of lifestyle, and I do not represent this group of korean people. People like this obviously ruin it for others. Although it's not right, society has a way of blaming a particular race whenever something bad happens.

sounds like koreans here in socal. lol. :Q


Posts like this. I dunno, I guess I'm just in a weird mood today.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: MrToilet
Originally posted by: uhohs
Originally posted by: blustori
I am korean and moved to Northern Virginia from Maryland a couple of years ago. Some of the things I have noticed for a while now is that a lot of korean kids/people here are spoiled. When their parents are working 24/7, they're obviously not watching what their kids are doing. Also, when you see high school kids with BMWs and Benz, you know something isn't right. And, when you go to coffee shops around this area, there are a lot of asian kids, especially on weekends. They are very loud and have no consideration for the people around them. This generates many stereotypes and fuels racism.

The overall feeling I get from the majority korean population here is that they are materialistic. They always talk about cars, houses, jobs, Ivy League schools; it gets quite annoying. I just want to say that I am against this kind of lifestyle, and I do not represent this group of korean people. People like this obviously ruin it for others. Although it's not right, society has a way of blaming a particular race whenever something bad happens.

sounds like koreans here in socal. lol. :Q


Posts like this. I dunno, I guess I'm in a rampaging mood today.
YOU are part of the problem then for your knee jerk post calling AT a "rash bashing site".
You couldn't be more wrong, and the post you linked above WAS WRITTEN BY A KOREAN!

From what I've read in this thread, and I've only scanned the 9 pages, your post seems to be the most rash bashing of all.
 

MrToilet

Senior member
Feb 28, 2005
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: MrToilet
Originally posted by: uhohs
Originally posted by: blustori
I am korean and moved to Northern Virginia from Maryland a couple of years ago. Some of the things I have noticed for a while now is that a lot of korean kids/people here are spoiled. When their parents are working 24/7, they're obviously not watching what their kids are doing. Also, when you see high school kids with BMWs and Benz, you know something isn't right. And, when you go to coffee shops around this area, there are a lot of asian kids, especially on weekends. They are very loud and have no consideration for the people around them. This generates many stereotypes and fuels racism.

The overall feeling I get from the majority korean population here is that they are materialistic. They always talk about cars, houses, jobs, Ivy League schools; it gets quite annoying. I just want to say that I am against this kind of lifestyle, and I do not represent this group of korean people. People like this obviously ruin it for others. Although it's not right, society has a way of blaming a particular race whenever something bad happens.

sounds like koreans here in socal. lol. :Q


Posts like this. I dunno, I guess I'm in a rampaging mood today.
YOU are part of the problem then for your knee jerk post calling AT a "rash bashing site".
You couldn't be more wrong, and the post you linked above WAS WRITTEN BY A KOREAN!

From what I've read in this thread, and I've only scanned the 9 pages, your post seems to be the most rash bashing of all.


I'm not race bashing by any means... I'm just saying you can't generalize an entire race by the few people you meet, you know? I *don't* judge Caucasian people by the idiots in the ER- I'm just saying people do stereotype based on nothing.

Sorry if I came across mad, I'm sickened by the shooting as much as everyone else.
 

AnitaPeterson

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You know... I see a double-standard at play here.

The VT killer was BORN in South Korea, but he came to the U.S. at the age of 8.

At the time of the killings, he'd spent TWO THIRDS of his life in the U.S.

That makes him an American, regardless of his birthplace. He was also a U.S. citizen, and South Korea, if I remember correctly, does not allow dual citizenship. (Take other examples, in order to understand this issue: Edward Teller, the father of the neutron bomb, is considered an American, although he was born in Hungary; Isaac Asimov was born in Russia... Was Al Capone an "Italian" gangster?)

My point is this: regardless of his physical features, he was, from a psychological standpoint, formed and influenced by the North American cultural environment. Ergo, there's no difference between him and, say, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.

I suspect that the media, authorities and general U.S. population prefer to label the killer as "Korean" because they don't want to think of him as "yet another disturbed American kid", therefore inviting self-criticism, analysis and contemplation. Sadly, it also makes the matters easier to brush off.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Just like anyone else, hearing the news in the beginning has been really uncomfortable. It reminded me of that Columbine High. Incident where some of the people I knew back then were shot. Now that I hear that this rampage was done by a S. Korean, I feel sick in the stomach. That would be because I, too, happened to be S. Korean studying abroad.

I, of course, do not think the killer being Korean has anything to do with this rampage. An individual psycho is a psycho no matter what his nationality happens to be. I do not see any connection between him being psycho to nationality of his. Damn?.I?m already defending myself.

Anyway, I?m curious how this would impact views on Koreans in general. From what I know and based on my experiences, most of Americans can?t distinguish the difference between N. Korea and S. Korea. Whenever there was a N. Korea issue, I hated how I had to explain that I?m from S. Korea and the differences in between N and S Korea is so huge that it?s not even comparable. On top of that, now that this has happened, I?m just speechless.
What do you Americans think this about the killer being Korean? Beside you, what do you think how other Americans would view it?

Well?.this whole situation where I feel sorry for the dead, worrying about myself as well as other Koreans just make me sick in the stomach.

WTF? The only difference between a North and South Korean is a political boundry drawn on a map. I doubt anyone in the world can tell the difference other than a Korean and them only after conversing with the person.

Someone beat you with the stupid stick? N. Korea is communist, repressed, etc. S. Korea is a modernized country, with lots of freedoms. It's like saying East & West Germany during the cold war were the same.

Read much? Place a North and South Korean in a room and tell me which is which without talking to them. Show me where I said the 2 countries were the same? Perhaps you and the OP were the ones beaten with a stupid stick. Most Americans understand very well the differences between the 2 countries political systems etc. I took the OPs original post to mean that Americans could not tell the difference between a Korean from NK and a Korean from SK and that is what I was addressing.

To the point of his original post however I doubt there will be any backlash against Koreans or Asians in general due to this incident. There is no history of Asians committing terrorist acts in the US or in the world generally.

Bolded the answer to your question, as found in your OP. You state that the only difference between the two countires is a geographical boundary dictated by political powers, implying that cultural, national, and political ideals between the two are certainly the same. The intent behind your statement is clear. It's no different than saying "the only difference between Pakistan and India is a political boundary drawn on a map," or "the only difference between the US and Mexico is a political boundary drawn on a map."

The statement is of the typical uniformed type that has neither ventured outside of their home country, nor holds much understanding about international politics and issues. Usually, as is typical wiht the ave American, b/c that person feels that such issues are inherently meaningless. This is about as ignorant (and arogant)as it gets
 
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