I'm Korean.

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Vic
What does the killer's race or ethnicity have to do with anything? Why do people even make threads like this?

It has nothing to do with the situation.

But tell that to the general populace, the media, the bigots that wait for these opportunities to let themselves be known, the politicians with an agenda, etc....

Also, tell that to the Middle Eastern people (or those that simply resembled a Middle Eastern person) that have been harrassed in the states since 9/11/07 11:00PM EST....

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Vic
What does the killer's race or ethnicity have to do with anything? Why do people even make threads like this?

It has nothing to do with the situation.

But tell that to the general populace, the media, the bigots that wait for these opportunities to let themselves be known, the politicians with an agenda, etc....

Also, tell that to the Middle Eastern people (or those that simply resembled a Middle Eastern person) that have been harrassed in the states since 9/11/07 11:00PM EST....

i predict there will be no backlash on asians because of this. this kid was de facto american; grew up here since he was 8.

albeit ridiculous, south korean government is on a PR blitz with [unnecessary] apologies, unlike the arabs in the middle east who were dancing and celebrating in the streets.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Vic
What does the killer's race or ethnicity have to do with anything? Why do people even make threads like this?

It has nothing to do with the situation.

But tell that to the general populace, the media, the bigots that wait for these opportunities to let themselves be known, the politicians with an agenda, etc....

Also, tell that to the Middle Eastern people (or those that simply resembled a Middle Eastern person) that have been harrassed in the states since 9/11/07 11:00PM EST....

i predict there will be no backlash on asians because of this. this kid was de facto american; grew up here since he was 8.

albeit ridiculous, south korean government is on a PR blitz with [unnecessary] apologies, unlike the arabs in the middle east who were dancing and celebrating in the streets.

yeah, I don't think it will amount to something as serious as what happened after 9/11. Just reiterating that the race-related hate in response to 9/11 was just as misplaced and ignorant as it would be in response to this tragedy.

EDIT: those middle-eastern people you saw dancing on the streets the day of 9/11 were proven to be stock footage taken some time well before 9/11 happened (several years IIRC), and certainly not related to such an event. It was pure propaganda, meant to stir a specific emotional response at the most inappropriate of times. I thought this was understood by most, or does the propaganda machine still fuel those 9/11 = Iraq thoughts?

 

[tomywishbone]

Originally posted by: Greenman

Originally posted by: bennylong
Everyone at work is scared to talk to me today. And I'm chinese! When I was watching the news, I was thinking "Don't let it be an asian guy, don't let it be an asian guy. Let it be another rich white spoiled kid"

Chinese, Viet, Korean, Japanese...we all looks the same to round eyes.

Yup, you all look the same, and all us white folks know that when you're at home you run around wearing one of those round pointy hats and eat dogs.

What?

 

[ManBearPig]

Originally posted by: suicidalpigeon

Originally posted by: bobsmith1492
Looks at sig... ??

And avatar.

and name?

 

[ManBearPig]

nevermind, already posted.

 

[jtvang125]

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
You know... I see a double-standard at play here.

The VT killer was BORN in South Korea, but he came to the U.S. at the age of 8.

At the time of the killings, he'd spent TWO THIRDS of his life in the U.S.

That makes him an American, regardless of his birthplace. He was also a U.S. citizen, and South Korea, if I remember correctly, does not allow dual citizenship. (Take other examples, in order to understand this issue: Edward Teller, the father of the neutron bomb, is considered an American, although he was born in Hungary; Isaac Asimov was born in Russia... Was Al Capone an "Italian" gangster?)

My point is this: regardless of his physical features, he was, from a psychological standpoint, formed and influenced by the North American cultural environment. Ergo, there's no difference between him and, say, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.

I suspect that the media, authorities and general U.S. population prefer to label the killer as "Korean" because they don't want to think of him as "yet another disturbed American kid", therefore inviting self-criticism, analysis and contemplation. Sadly, it also makes the matters easier to brush off.

Actually unless his parents became natuarlized citizens he's still a resident alien. If his parents became naturalize citizens before he turned 18 he would gain citizenship automatically. According the news articles he is still a resident alien so either his parents are still resident aliens or became natualized citizens after he turned 18, in which he would then have to file for citizenship himself.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

Strangely enough, there is no official confirmation of his citizenship status... you'd think that, with all the recent brouhaha on illegal immigration, the media would have jumped on it, if he were just a "resident alien" or "international student". But since they're keeping mum, I'd guess he DID have U.S. citizenship.

In any case, my observations still stand. I feel that there's almost a public sense of relief that he wasn't white or black ... in other words, representing the races usually involved in this type of events (and also considered "bona fide Americans"!) I sense a subconscious bias against, to use a quote from a VERY current pop culture product, "the hordes of Asia"... for the reasons I already mentioned above.

 

[bleeb]

Everyone must remember that Koreans are the Italians of asians...

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Vic
What does the killer's race or ethnicity have to do with anything? Why do people even make threads like this?

It has nothing to do with the situation.

But tell that to the general populace, the media, the bigots that wait for these opportunities to let themselves be known, the politicians with an agenda, etc....

Also, tell that to the Middle Eastern people (or those that simply resembled a Middle Eastern person) that have been harrassed in the states since 9/11/07 11:00PM EST....

i predict there will be no backlash on asians because of this. this kid was de facto american; grew up here since he was 8.

albeit ridiculous, south korean government is on a PR blitz with [unnecessary] apologies, unlike the arabs in the middle east who were dancing and celebrating in the streets.

yeah, I don't think it will amount to something as serious as what happened after 9/11. Just reiterating that the race-related hate in response to 9/11 was just as misplaced and ignorant as it would be in response to this tragedy.

EDIT: those middle-eastern people you saw dancing on the streets the day of 9/11 were proven to be stock footage taken some time well before 9/11 happened (several years IIRC), and certainly not related to such an event. It was pure propaganda, meant to stir a specific emotional response at the most inappropriate of times. I thought this was understood by most, or does the propaganda machine still fuel those 9/11 = Iraq thoughts?

Wrong, the Palestinians were celebrating on the street.

 

[blustori]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Vic
What does the killer's race or ethnicity have to do with anything? Why do people even make threads like this?

It has nothing to do with the situation.

But tell that to the general populace, the media, the bigots that wait for these opportunities to let themselves be known, the politicians with an agenda, etc....

Also, tell that to the Middle Eastern people (or those that simply resembled a Middle Eastern person) that have been harrassed in the states since 9/11/07 11:00PM EST....

i predict there will be no backlash on asians because of this. this kid was de facto american; grew up here since he was 8.

albeit ridiculous, south korean government is on a PR blitz with [unnecessary] apologies, unlike the arabs in the middle east who were dancing and celebrating in the streets.

yeah, I don't think it will amount to something as serious as what happened after 9/11. Just reiterating that the race-related hate in response to 9/11 was just as misplaced and ignorant as it would be in response to this tragedy.

EDIT: those middle-eastern people you saw dancing on the streets the day of 9/11 were proven to be stock footage taken some time well before 9/11 happened (several years IIRC), and certainly not related to such an event. It was pure propaganda, meant to stir a specific emotional response at the most inappropriate of times. I thought this was understood by most, or does the propaganda machine still fuel those 9/11 = Iraq thoughts?

Maybe not so much in your area, but I have already heard of someone breaking the windows at a popular korean bakery cafe in my area. Also, there are police guarding the entrance of almost every major asian supermarket in the area.

 

[jpeyton]

Maybe he was angry about the Korean War?

 

[Lurknomore]

Originally posted by: bleeb
Everyone must remember that Koreans are the Italians of asians...

First Blacks, now Italians- Mama mia!
I've also heard Irish (hot-tempered), Jewish (clannish).

 

[thirdlegstump]

Very likely he was often made fun of, even though it wasn't reported. Probably had a really bad day. I feel bad for him if that's the case but still do not agree with his actions.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Maybe he was angry about the Korean War?

He wasn't even born when that happened

 

[dyn2nvu]

Originally posted by: xospec1alk

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
I think you're the only one who connected being Korean with the shooter. I don't think anyone else thinks Koreans are gonna start killing people all over.

sadly, hes not...my friends are already pointing out to me that hes korean...like its such a big deal or something...psychos are psychos...him being korean is so insignificant...

Yup, just another human being that went psycho.

 

[deepred98]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Maybe he was angry about the Korean War?

He wasn't even born when that happened

and that was to help south koreans so it wouldn't make any sense
then again killing 30+ innocent people doesn't make sense either

 

[dyn2nvu]

Maybe his imaginary girlfriend dumped him?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Vic
What does the killer's race or ethnicity have to do with anything? Why do people even make threads like this?

It has nothing to do with the situation.

But tell that to the general populace, the media, the bigots that wait for these opportunities to let themselves be known, the politicians with an agenda, etc....

Also, tell that to the Middle Eastern people (or those that simply resembled a Middle Eastern person) that have been harrassed in the states since 9/11/07 11:00PM EST....

i predict there will be no backlash on asians because of this. this kid was de facto american; grew up here since he was 8.

albeit ridiculous, south korean government is on a PR blitz with [unnecessary] apologies, unlike the arabs in the middle east who were dancing and celebrating in the streets.

yeah, I don't think it will amount to something as serious as what happened after 9/11. Just reiterating that the race-related hate in response to 9/11 was just as misplaced and ignorant as it would be in response to this tragedy.

EDIT: those middle-eastern people you saw dancing on the streets the day of 9/11 were proven to be stock footage taken some time well before 9/11 happened (several years IIRC), and certainly not related to such an event. It was pure propaganda, meant to stir a specific emotional response at the most inappropriate of times. I thought this was understood by most, or does the propaganda machine still fuel those 9/11 = Iraq thoughts?

Wrong, the Palestinians were celebrating on the street.

right...two years or so before 9/11. it was stock footage. The networks actually apologized for showing it an such a misleading manner some time afterwards.

Look, I don't condone Palestinian suicide bombers just as I don't condone Isreali government terrorism that induces those Palestinians to react in such ways. But if you're the numebr one country in the world, and you unequivically support the nation (We are the only ones in the world who do so) that terrorizes a displaced nation of people, do their average opinions of us seem so shocking?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: blustori

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Vic
What does the killer's race or ethnicity have to do with anything? Why do people even make threads like this?

It has nothing to do with the situation.

But tell that to the general populace, the media, the bigots that wait for these opportunities to let themselves be known, the politicians with an agenda, etc....

Also, tell that to the Middle Eastern people (or those that simply resembled a Middle Eastern person) that have been harrassed in the states since 9/11/07 11:00PM EST....

i predict there will be no backlash on asians because of this. this kid was de facto american; grew up here since he was 8.

albeit ridiculous, south korean government is on a PR blitz with [unnecessary] apologies, unlike the arabs in the middle east who were dancing and celebrating in the streets.

yeah, I don't think it will amount to something as serious as what happened after 9/11. Just reiterating that the race-related hate in response to 9/11 was just as misplaced and ignorant as it would be in response to this tragedy.

EDIT: those middle-eastern people you saw dancing on the streets the day of 9/11 were proven to be stock footage taken some time well before 9/11 happened (several years IIRC), and certainly not related to such an event. It was pure propaganda, meant to stir a specific emotional response at the most inappropriate of times. I thought this was understood by most, or does the propaganda machine still fuel those 9/11 = Iraq thoughts?

Maybe not so much in your area, but I have already heard of someone breaking the windows at a popular korean bakery cafe in my area. Also, there are police guarding the entrance of almost every major asian supermarket in the area.

Wow. That's so ridiculous. What compels people to confuse this with nationalities? Do you live in a small, rural area or something?

 

[tersome]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: blustori
Maybe not so much in your area, but I have already heard of someone breaking the windows at a popular korean bakery cafe in my area. Also, there are police guarding the entrance of almost every major asian supermarket in the area.

Wow. That's so ridiculous. What compels people to confuse this with nationalities? Do you live in a small, rural area or something?

You slam bigots, yet assume citizens of small, rural areas = bigots.

Intriguing.

 

[deepred98]

lol didn't realize that koreans were stereotyped as aggressive till this thread and my mom making a comment at dinner
does explain the picture of a korean in a pink polo waving an AK in my history textbook though lol

seriously though, i rly hope race doesn't become an issue because that would just be blatant bigotry

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: tersome

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: blustori
Maybe not so much in your area, but I have already heard of someone breaking the windows at a popular korean bakery cafe in my area. Also, there are police guarding the entrance of almost every major asian supermarket in the area.

Wow. That's so ridiculous. What compels people to confuse this with nationalities? Do you live in a small, rural area or something?

You slam bigots, yet assume citizens of small, rural areas = bigots.

Intriguing.

But that's not a stereotype... it's fact that rednecks are racist.

 

[Deadtrees]

Originally posted by: deepred98
lol didn't realize that koreans were stereotyped as aggressive till this thread and my mom making a comment at dinner
does explain the picture of a korean in a pink polo waving an AK in my history textbook though lol

seriously though, i rly hope race doesn't become an issue because that would just be blatant bigotry

Tell me about it. For some people here, Koreans have become a great gateway for their hidden racist side.
Simply put, Koreans = blacks, farmers(WTF?), Italians, Jews or whatever to them.
At first, it was insulting because they were putting down those people as well as Koreans. Now, I'm somewhat entertained by how those racists are coming out of the closet with their own match points.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: tersome

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: blustori
Maybe not so much in your area, but I have already heard of someone breaking the windows at a popular korean bakery cafe in my area. Also, there are police guarding the entrance of almost every major asian supermarket in the area.

Wow. That's so ridiculous. What compels people to confuse this with nationalities? Do you live in a small, rural area or something?

You slam bigots, yet assume citizens of small, rural areas = bigots.

Intriguing.

But that's not a stereotype... it's fact that rednecks are racist.

well, that and I should have put a next to my comment. I felt it was sufficnietly ridiculous at the end to be taken too seriously. Oh well.... (By the way, I grew up in a small town)