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Queasy

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Originally posted by: ScottFern
I love this preemptive move to get defensive about nonexistent hatred towards Asians! Gotta love America! lol

Nigel Powers: There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.
 

meltdown75

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I think nothing more or less of Koreans now than before. Last time I checked, being a psychotic killer was an equal opportunity affliction.
 

smack Down

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I think it is funny that the Asians expect people to care about the difference between different types of Asians. News flash it is only the racist asians that cares to everyone else you are all the same.
 

bdude

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Originally posted by: smack Down
I think it is funny that the Asians expect people to care about the difference between different types of Asians. News flash it is only the racist asians that cares to everyone else you are all the same.

I think it's funny you expect asians to expect what you expect them to expect. Expect.
 

krunchykrome

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Originally posted by: smack Down
I think it is funny that the Asians expect people to care about the difference between different types of Asians. News flash it is only the racist asians that cares to everyone else you are all the same.

Huh? A korean is not the same as being Chinese and it's not the same as being Japanese either.

You sound like the racist here.
 

noto12ious

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Originally posted by: EKKC
this Asian councilman guy from NYC John Liu played the race card yesterday at a press conference.

i was shaking my head as i hear him speak... WHY!
why go there when no one is blaming racism!

I'm an Asian (Chinese), and it's never a concern that there will be backlash myself after the news broke out that Cho was Korean, why bring this up! god i hate politicians

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070419/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shooting


"As soon as he started reading, the whole class started laughing and pointing and saying, `Go back to China,'" Davids said

"There were just some people who were really mean to him and they would push him down and laugh at him," Roberts said Wednesday. "He didn't speak English really well and they would really make fun of him."


surprise surprise. racists and bullies.
 

rsd

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Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: EKKC
this Asian councilman guy from NYC John Liu played the race card yesterday at a press conference.

i was shaking my head as i hear him speak... WHY!
why go there when no one is blaming racism!

I'm an Asian (Chinese), and it's never a concern that there will be backlash myself after the news broke out that Cho was Korean, why bring this up! god i hate politicians

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070419/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shooting


"As soon as he started reading, the whole class started laughing and pointing and saying, `Go back to China,'" Davids said

"There were just some people who were really mean to him and they would push him down and laugh at him," Roberts said Wednesday. "He didn't speak English really well and they would really make fun of him."


surprise surprise. racists and bullies.

Yes because bullying never occurs to kids growing up, and all those who are bullied are then justified to go on a murderous rampage.
 

EKKC

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Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: EKKC
this Asian councilman guy from NYC John Liu played the race card yesterday at a press conference.

i was shaking my head as i hear him speak... WHY!
why go there when no one is blaming racism!

I'm an Asian (Chinese), and it's never a concern that there will be backlash myself after the news broke out that Cho was Korean, why bring this up! god i hate politicians

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070419/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shooting


"As soon as he started reading, the whole class started laughing and pointing and saying, `Go back to China,'" Davids said

"There were just some people who were really mean to him and they would push him down and laugh at him," Roberts said Wednesday. "He didn't speak English really well and they would really make fun of him."


surprise surprise. racists and bullies.

like i said I am an Asian and was bullied on when I was a kid, I don't see that picking on someone who happens to be another race as being racists, the kids are young and are uneducated in that way. Same thing that the bullies would pick on a geek or nerd who can be white, black, hispanic, asian or anything.

I am not defending anyone's actions here, all I am saying is if you are picked on, it's not because of your race, it's because the bullies are bullies.

It's funny how everyone cries out there should be unity and how racism should be eliminated meanwhile there are people who preemptively making catastrophic events into a racial issue when NO ONE is mentioning it.
 

noto12ious

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Originally posted by: rsd
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: EKKC
this Asian councilman guy from NYC John Liu played the race card yesterday at a press conference.

i was shaking my head as i hear him speak... WHY!
why go there when no one is blaming racism!

I'm an Asian (Chinese), and it's never a concern that there will be backlash myself after the news broke out that Cho was Korean, why bring this up! god i hate politicians

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070419/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shooting


"As soon as he started reading, the whole class started laughing and pointing and saying, `Go back to China,'" Davids said

"There were just some people who were really mean to him and they would push him down and laugh at him," Roberts said Wednesday. "He didn't speak English really well and they would really make fun of him."


surprise surprise. racists and bullies.

Yes because bullying never occurs to kids growing up, and all those who are bullied are then justified to go on a murderous rampage.

who said it was justified? it shows racism certainly played a part. they should interview those that bullied him
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: rsd
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: EKKC
this Asian councilman guy from NYC John Liu played the race card yesterday at a press conference.

i was shaking my head as i hear him speak... WHY!
why go there when no one is blaming racism!

I'm an Asian (Chinese), and it's never a concern that there will be backlash myself after the news broke out that Cho was Korean, why bring this up! god i hate politicians

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070419/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shooting


"As soon as he started reading, the whole class started laughing and pointing and saying, `Go back to China,'" Davids said

"There were just some people who were really mean to him and they would push him down and laugh at him," Roberts said Wednesday. "He didn't speak English really well and they would really make fun of him."


surprise surprise. racists and bullies.

Yes because bullying never occurs to kids growing up, and all those who are bullied are then justified to go on a murderous rampage.

who said it was justified? it shows racism certainly played a part. they should interview those that bullied him
let those who have NEVER bullied cast the first stone.
 

noto12ious

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Originally posted by: EKKC
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: EKKC
this Asian councilman guy from NYC John Liu played the race card yesterday at a press conference.

i was shaking my head as i hear him speak... WHY!
why go there when no one is blaming racism!

I'm an Asian (Chinese), and it's never a concern that there will be backlash myself after the news broke out that Cho was Korean, why bring this up! god i hate politicians

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070419/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shooting


"As soon as he started reading, the whole class started laughing and pointing and saying, `Go back to China,'" Davids said

"There were just some people who were really mean to him and they would push him down and laugh at him," Roberts said Wednesday. "He didn't speak English really well and they would really make fun of him."


surprise surprise. racists and bullies.

like i said I am an Asian and was bullied on when I was a kid, I don't see that picking on someone who happens to be another race as being racists, the kids are young and are uneducated in that way. Same thing that the bullies would pick on a geek or nerd who can be white, black, hispanic, asian or anything.

I am not defending anyone's actions here, all I am saying is if you are picked on, it's not because of your race, it's because the bullies are bullies.

It's funny how everyone cries out there should be unity and how racism should be eliminated meanwhile there are people who preemptively making catastrophic events into a racial issue when NO ONE is mentioning it.

when you're picked on because of your race, it's racism, no?
 

EKKC

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Originally posted by: noto12ious


when you're picked on because of your race, it's racism, no?

but how is it more serious than picking on someone because of their height, or someone is considered ugly, or because of a squeaky voice?

bullies are bullies, they will pick on anyone that is smaller than them and make fun of anyone different, I believe it is NOT considered racist when the bully himself is uneducated or not matured enough to make the determination that making fun of someone because of their difference is wrong.

racism is discriminating against a certain race for a job, for admission to school, for a promotion.

every race should be less aware of their own race in order to eliminate racism. do not relate every single event down to the issue of race. how can we truly live in a melting pot culture if you cannot distance yourself from being oversensitive to everything and categorize everything around you as discrimination. the same thing goes for the whole Imus fiasco.

stop thinking that you are being discriminated, and the world will be a better place.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: ScottFern
I love this preemptive move to get defensive about nonexistent hatred towards Asians! Gotta love America! lol

Nigel Powers: There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.

what if you're intolerant of a people's culture who's mission is to kill you, and the French?
 

n0sferatu

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It doesn't affect my view of (North or South) Koreans at all. I view them as I would any other person, as equal. I understand the many, many differences between North and South Korea (as well as the differences between Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, India, etc.). It is embarrassing to me that the majority of Americans do not educate themselves on international issues and the countries outside of North America.
 

noto12ious

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Originally posted by: EKKC
Originally posted by: noto12ious


when you're picked on because of your race, it's racism, no?

but how is it more serious than picking on someone because of their height, or someone is considered ugly, or because of a squeaky voice?

bullies are bullies, they will pick on anyone that is smaller than them and make fun of anyone different, I believe it is NOT considered racist when the bully himself is uneducated or not matured enough to make the determination that making fun of someone because of their difference is wrong.

racism is discriminating against a certain race for a job, for admission to school, for a promotion.

every race should be less aware of their own race in order to eliminate racism. do not relate every single event down to the issue of race. how can we truly live in a melting pot culture if you cannot distance yourself from being oversensitive to everything and categorize everything around you as discrimination. the same thing goes for the whole Imus fiasco.

stop thinking that you are being discriminated, and the world will be a better place.

actually, racism includes prejudice and discrimination / abuse towards those of another race.

it was obviously a case of both racism and bullying.
 

SpeedEng66

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Jul 10, 2002
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this is a interesting topic

as soon as I entered work today (today is my Monday) ,
I had comments from co workers (in a joking manner)
"oh S#!T it's the shooter"
but I have noticed ppl staring at me around where I live
kinda weird and funny at the same time

boy how the media just blow this up, just makes me sick tho..

My wife is Korean and I am Chinese btw
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: smack Down
I think it is funny that the Asians expect people to care about the difference between different types of Asians. News flash it is only the racist asians that cares to everyone else you are all the same.

Huh? A korean is not the same as being Chinese and it's not the same as being Japanese either.

You sound like the racist here.

I didn't say there where not differences in fact I said there where. Just that no one cares about the differences.
 

AnitaPeterson

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Originally posted by: tigersty1e
I'm not going to go through 13 pages of posts, but I just want to make my post and be out. I look Korean, but I'm American... Korean-American... whatever you want to call me. I was born in America and probably more "American" than some hardcore Americans.

This killer came to America at the age of 8 and lived in America for most of his life. It doesn't matter whether he had nationality in Korea, America, or Africa. When someone lives in a country as long as he has, he is assimilated to that country. This was an American that killed all these people. The name of some country on a piece of paper doesn't change that fact.

This in fact may have fueled his rampage. People treating him like some foreigner because of his look and name when in fact he was more "American" than anybody else.

Thank you for making my point.
 

0roo0roo

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i'm just glad he's not a technical major like computer science or engineering.

you know people thought it would be one of them.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: rsd
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: EKKC
this Asian councilman guy from NYC John Liu played the race card yesterday at a press conference.

i was shaking my head as i hear him speak... WHY!
why go there when no one is blaming racism!

I'm an Asian (Chinese), and it's never a concern that there will be backlash myself after the news broke out that Cho was Korean, why bring this up! god i hate politicians

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070419/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shooting


"As soon as he started reading, the whole class started laughing and pointing and saying, `Go back to China,'" Davids said

"There were just some people who were really mean to him and they would push him down and laugh at him," Roberts said Wednesday. "He didn't speak English really well and they would really make fun of him."


surprise surprise. racists and bullies.

Yes because bullying never occurs to kids growing up, and all those who are bullied are then justified to go on a murderous rampage.

who said it was justified? it shows racism certainly played a part. they should interview those that bullied him
let those who have NEVER bullied cast the first stone.

*Raises hand*
 

Emission

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: rsd
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: EKKC
this Asian councilman guy from NYC John Liu played the race card yesterday at a press conference.

i was shaking my head as i hear him speak... WHY!
why go there when no one is blaming racism!

I'm an Asian (Chinese), and it's never a concern that there will be backlash myself after the news broke out that Cho was Korean, why bring this up! god i hate politicians

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070419/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shooting


"As soon as he started reading, the whole class started laughing and pointing and saying, `Go back to China,'" Davids said

"There were just some people who were really mean to him and they would push him down and laugh at him," Roberts said Wednesday. "He didn't speak English really well and they would really make fun of him."


surprise surprise. racists and bullies.

Yes because bullying never occurs to kids growing up, and all those who are bullied are then justified to go on a murderous rampage.

who said it was justified? it shows racism certainly played a part. they should interview those that bullied him
let those who have NEVER bullied cast the first stone.

I've never bullied, hell, I've always been on the defense side, helping those who we're bullied. What happened to this man was a social-disaster, not a mental disorder. He was relentlessly picked on and lonely, and I'll say it, I would have been friends with this guy, because I don't see it acceptable to be thrown aside for your race/minor defects, and I'm sure if he had just ONE friend, this would have never happened.
 

dafatha00

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
lol i have nothing against koreans, what i say is simply true. as i said, it wasn't long ago that most of korea was agricultural. simply a fact. as for the melodramatic soaps that now do so well in asia come from korea, why? because they are not as reserved as other asian people.

and well the other fact is that koreans out of asian groups in the us are one of the lesser well off.

of course revealing this kind of stuff would make a korean mad..as evidenced in this thread

so...wtf do the 1.2 billion chinese who live outside of shanghai do? there are more laboring chinese (as a percentage) than koreans.

i would say koreans are the jews of asia. persecuted throughout it's history, small land, low population, fighting off invasions. extremely hard working, very entrepreneurial, and everything they touch turn to gold. sons go to ivy league become lawyers, doctors, ibankers.

sounds like a jealous chinaman.

He's referring to the Asians that reside in America. But I would disagree with him in regards to how well off Koreans are in comparison to the other Asians Americans. The Chinese and Japanese living here generally are more well off, but Koreans aren't that far behind. The southeast Asians (Vietnemese/Cambodians) are the ones who tend to live in poorer areas.

And in terms of work ethic, sons going to Ivy League schools to become lawyers, making lots of money, that applies pretty equally to all the Asian groups.
 

aigomorla

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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Just like anyone else, hearing the news in the beginning has been really uncomfortable. It reminded me of that Columbine High. Incident where some of the people I knew back then were shot. Now that I hear that this rampage was done by a S. Korean, I feel sick in the stomach. That would be because I, too, happened to be S. Korean studying abroad.

I, of course, do not think the killer being Korean has anything to do with this rampage. An individual psycho is a psycho no matter what his nationality happens to be. I do not see any connection between him being psycho to nationality of his. Damn?.I?m already defending myself.

Anyway, I?m curious how this would impact views on Koreans in general. From what I know and based on my experiences, most of Americans can?t distinguish the difference between N. Korea and S. Korea. Whenever there was a N. Korea issue, I hated how I had to explain that I?m from S. Korea and the differences in between N and S Korea is so huge that it?s not even comparable. On top of that, now that this has happened, I?m just speechless.
What do you Americans think this about the killer being Korean? Beside you, what do you think how other Americans would view it?

Well?.this whole situation where I feel sorry for the dead, worrying about myself as well as other Koreans just make me sick in the stomach.

P.S: I'm worried because I know what those Middle Eastern people has been going through since 9/11. On top of that, as I've mentioned, Americans don't seem to know the difference between N. and S. Korea and that I fear Americans would think Korean= people from a nuke crazy, people dying in hunger country + psycho mass murder.

all i have to say, i am an american korean. That means my first residence is USA. I am a citizen of this great, but falling country.

To make things worse, my last name is CHO. But so far, i havent felt any racial tensions of any sort. My classmates and co workers all know who i am. I am completely different then that psycho lunatic.

We joke about it, to releave tensions amungst other korean students in the class. My teacher whom ive known for 2 yrs now even cracked a joke directed at me directly. It was to releave tensions, and the teacher and i are known to crack jokes together.


koreans, hispanics, african americans, cocasians, were all human. Despite the color of the skin, our genetic makeup are almost identical. The brain is the most complex computer in the creatation.

Even that goes BSOD once in awhile. And leads to this.

If anyone is the blame, i think its the school. They were given tons of advance warning this guy was going to be a problem. They just ignored it. I give the school credit however for trying to assimulate him. IE, privite lessons, and stuff, but i think the school went too far to allow him back in after 3 reported harrasments. As well as everyone in the class being scared to show up.

As for me, my class goes crazy when i dont show up, were on groups, and my groups heavily require my imput as well as type skills


But yes, being korean, that psycho did cause a lot of embarrasment. We like our native koreans that live in korea have lots and lots of pride. And this is a great shame to our race. But i started accepting the fact a long time ago, that were all =. And im sure all my friends think that too. So no, i havent felt any heat in a big city like LA. I still get treated like crap to people who treat other people like crap.

And i still get hugs from people who kept giving me hugs.

Originally posted by: moshquerade
let those who have NEVER bullied cast the first stone.

couldnt say it better myself mosh. People who throw the first stone should watch out. Half the time their wrong and the stone comes back. And it hurts when rebounded. :X
 
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