I'm ready to chuck my new AMD rig out the window!!! *update*

[gunf1ghter]

/EDIT

A big thanks to rectal and dulanac!!!!

the AMD patch seems to have fixed my probs... my machine has been up for 48 hrs straight with zero lockups!

I just wish that they had put the damn thing in SP2!



This is a long post, but I'm hoping someone here can put me in the right direction.

I recently assembled a new AMD system to replace my Intel Asus CUSL2/PIII setup.

I am using the following components.

OEM 1.33 Gig Tbird cooled with OCQ Gladiator and Arctic Silver (I have carefully re-applied the arctic silver and remounted the heatsink TWICE).
Asus A7V133 with 256 MEGS of Crucial CAS 2 PC133 spec RAM.
Elsa Gladiac 920 Geforce 3.
Linksys Ethernet Card (running latest drivers from their website)
Philips Acoustic Edge (runnin latest WDM drivers).

The operating system is Win2K with service pack 2.

The problem that I am having is hard lockups in video applications. I will be playing CS, or Giants, or even just running the default opengl windows screen saver and the system will hard lock. The problem appears to be random. I can sometimes run the system for hours without a hiccup and other times it will lockup in just a short period of time.

Motherboard temps are 30C and the processor idles with the Gladiator at 48C. Under full load I have not seen the CPU go higher than about 57C (it was going to 65C with the stock HS/F). I understand that these temps are reasonable for the Asus A7V133 since the socket based thermistor is not terribly accurate.

I have scrubbed and re-installed the OS twice. I am loading nothing but Win2K, relevant card drivers, , DX8a, SP2 and then the VIA 4in1 drivers (I have also tried loading the VIA drivers before SP2 which made no difference).

I have moved cards to other slots. According to the motherboard manual I don't have any cards in slots that do IRQ sharing. Again, the problem is random so I don't suspect a PCI problem.

I have tried enabling and disabling AGP fast writes and sidebanding to no effect.

I have quite a bit of experience with building Intel rigs and I have never encountered a problem like this that I couldn't fix.

Any advice is very welcome at this point.

 

[Sugadaddy]

what nvidia drivers?

 

[gunf1ghter]

It's happened with 12.41, 12.60 and 12.90

 

[sharkeeper]

Install Windows 2000 without ACPI.

Cheers!

 

[Dark4ng3l]

What 4in1's???

 

[gunf1ghter]

If I have cards in shots that don't share IRQ's how could that be causing the problem?

I'd like to believe that would fix the problems but I'd like more info before I do a total tear down and rebuild. I've never had a problem with ACPI on any other machine I've put together.

 

[gunf1ghter]

I've tried both the 4.31 and 4.32 4in1's.

 

[DARRIN]

Have you tried pulling out all the cards except your video card and running it?

 

[AmazonRasta]

Gunfighter - I know how you feel. Windows 2000 was doing the exact same thing for me, only it wasn't just video applications, it was also using internet explorer.

I said fvck it, and formatted and installed Windows 98. Haven't had a problem since.

If I could find out how to get Windows 2000 working, by all means, I'd be using it.

 

[bacillus]

I know this will go against the grain with such a fine videocard but have you tried reducing your AGP transfers down to x1?? :frown:

 

[gunf1ghter]

Darrin,

That's exactly what I was going to try next... I even ordered a Santa Cruz to see if that fixes it.

The problem I have is that I even get the lockups with a screensaver running where the soundcard isn't even doing anything.

 

[MrHelpful]

Have you tried running it without the Philips AE?

 

[Rectalfier]

Give me an e-mail address and I will send you the largepageminimum.reg file. This solved random lock ups for me, give it a try.

 

[gunf1ghter]

Rasta,

That's not an option for me... there's no going back to WinX.

I'd rather chuck this thing and get an Intel at that point.

 

[gunf1ghter]

MrHelpful,

That's my next plan... I'm going to pull the AE and leave it running a loop with the opengl screensaver for 12-24 hrs and see if it locks up.

 

[arod324]

If it's just video problems, try turning the agp speed to 2X or even 1X(if you're at a higher speed) (there won't be that much difference). ALso, you might want to try a new PS. It sounds like you have A LOT Of stuff eating up power, esp your cpu and your geforce3. Also, even though the asus boards aren't as accurate as other boards, you still might try getting the motherborad... (ambient temp) down which will in turn reduce the temperature of your cpu.

 

[gunf1ghter]

I have an Antec 300 watt power supply.

I had the same problems when I had everything installed in my previous InWin chassis with a 450 watt Enermax power supply.

thanks for the suggestions though! Keep em coming!

 

[Bozo Galora]

try UNDERCLOCKING the GF core to see if your bus is overloading
those drivers are DirX8(a) optimised, i assume thats what your running?

Disabling ACPI does not require a "complete rebuild", just a check mark in in right place in dev manager, been tutored here many times

 

[eviltoon]

Well, I did throw my AMD 1.2 out the window. I had the same thing happening with my GeForce 3. Nothing worked. On the advice from someone on this AnandTec board I increased the power supply. I also went for a PIII 933. So I can't say what solved the problem, But so far it's going okay. Personally, I think it's the power supply. Anyway, I sympathize with your frustration level. Mine was real high. One of these days we'll understand what's what with this card.

 

[nortexoid]

1. try running the system not overclocked...(including memory latencies, video card, and cpu/fsb/multiplier)...
2. try running an OGL app without the ethernet or sound card installed (or any other device for that matter expect the video and hdd)...

still having problems?

3. try various video card drivers and or OGL configurations
4. try various aperature sizes (disable SBA, FW, and keep it at AGP 2x - matter of fact, do this bracketed stuff in step 1)

still having problems?

5. throw your system out the window...

 

[gunf1ghter]

They system is not overclocked, all fsb and memory sittings are default.

 

[Adul]

send to me for extensive testing

 

[gunf1ghter]

lol @ Adul

you've been making that comment a lot lately... itching for an upgrade?

 

[bigd480]

u tried reseating the video card or trying it in a diff computer? it could just be "bad"

also have u tried diff BIOSes for your mobo? definitely try running stuff with only the video card in...

 

[Dulanic]

Everyone goes for the hard fixes..... this fix is very easy. I had the same problem before, especially with Halflife (CS)...

http://www.amd.com/products/cpg/athlon-duron/amd_win2k_patch.html

That should fix it. Why people keep forgetting to mention this patch is beyond me.