I'm so bored of my car and I hate it. What should I do?

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Feb 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Stop talking about mods, that's a non-starter. Nobody with a clue or actual sense about life will be modding that 2000 Accord. You either put up with it or sell it, period. I had to lol when I saw some douche today in his subaru with a carbon fiber trunk (nothing else CF). I wonder how much money he pissed down the toilet on that silly thing. Mods are notoriously poor at giving extra power for money spent and notoriously awful when it comes to selling the car in regard to what money you'll get back. Nothing but thousands of dollars would make a boring car like this fun to drive.

Agreed. a 4-cylinder Accord with an automatic is about as boring as a car gets, and, other than reliability, one can scarcely imagine a worse place to start as a platform for modding. The mods will hurt the car's otherwise excellent resale value, and will do nothing to cure its essential dullness.

The strong resale means that it will get good value if sold or traded in, and if it were mine I'd ditch it (as I did with my own, much better-equipped '98 Accord).
 

Arkaign

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I'm sure it's been said before in this thread, but sell + possibly spend a few bucks more and grab a $7k or so used Maxima SE with a manual tranny. '02 or '03 are great years.

They are overall very reliable, and easy to maintain, the only exceptions I know of being something to do with the (3?) cats, and emissions-related parts/labor being rather pricey. Of course this is in Dallas county, where we have Nazi inspections at $45 a pop that are pretty stringent.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: AdamK47
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
Originally posted by: AdamK47
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
my cold air intake was $170, my projectors were 180, my HIDs were 80, detailing was 175, exhaust will be 500. much less than buying a new car and having tons of car payments

How does any of that fix the slow and boring?

my cold air intake by AEM gives 9hp at the wheels - affects the speed of the car & fuel efficiency
exhausts - along with other pipes give freer flow from the engine - resulting in more efficiency - giving more hp & better mileage.
projectors & hids - he complained about headlights being dim
detailing - he complained that his interior was hard to clean and probably dirty

i thought those were pretty obvious, u sure u know anything about cars?

I know nothing about modifying Hondas. Thank goodness.

No kidding. :laugh:

Modifying a Honda Accord is like putting blue lights on a PC.

Oooh, 9hp. Wooow!!! How would you even notice going from 135hp to 144hp on a 3200 lb car?
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
Originally posted by: AdamK47
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
my cold air intake was $170, my projectors were 180, my HIDs were 80, detailing was 175, exhaust will be 500. much less than buying a new car and having tons of car payments

How does any of that fix the slow and boring?

my cold air intake by AEM gives 9hp at the wheels - affects the speed of the car & fuel efficiency
exhausts - along with other pipes give freer flow from the engine - resulting in more efficiency - giving more hp & better mileage.
projectors & hids - he complained about headlights being dim
detailing - he complained that his interior was hard to clean and probably dirty

i thought those were pretty obvious, u sure u know anything about cars?

You live your life 15.8 seconds at a time.
 

LOUISSSSS

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lol once again, AT members that have no interest in modifying a car, just like any other person would call AT losers for having their own custom PC w/ own custom heatsink. lol losers

modifying a car is definitely more fun than building a pc.

evident:
ddmtuning.com has some pretty popular HIDs among the tuning crowd..check them out. i got mine from www.lightwerkz.com though.

hondas are boring? i guess thats what americans love cuz americans are boring then. why do honda cars lead the way? accord, civic, cr-v, oddyssey, s2000, nsx. why do those cars all stand out as spectacular cars? and not just in my opinion, by the numbers since thats all thats not subjective
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
lol once again, AT members that have no interest in modifying a car, just like any other person would call AT losers for having their own custom PC w/ own custom heatsink. lol losers

modifying a car is definitely more fun than building a pc.

evident:
ddmtuning.com has some pretty popular HIDs among the tuning crowd..check them out. i got mine from www.lightwerkz.com though.

hondas are boring? i guess thats what americans love cuz americans are boring then. why do honda cars lead the way? accord, civic, cr-v, oddyssey, s2000, nsx. why do those cars all stand out as spectacular cars? and not just in my opinion, by the numbers since thats all thats not subjective

A gutless Honda Accord with an automatic transmission is boring.

To claim otherwise is epic fail.

Do you have a dyno-proven 9 horsepower from your intake, or was that from the sticker?
 

Arkaign

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I like modding, but I also have no illusions about any giant gains outside of rare exceptions (ie, adding more boost to a stock FI setup is not too $$, or adding a turbo/SC, which *is* $$$). Thinks like Intake, Headers, Exhaust, ECU Flash/Tune, TBS, and so on do make a difference in many vehicles, but not dramatic enough to make the car a world better. It's mostly a psychological effect, and can make the car more 'fun'.
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
I like modding, but I also have no illusions about any giant gains outside of rare exceptions (ie, adding more boost to a stock FI setup is not too $$, or adding a turbo/SC, which *is* $$$). Thinks like Intake, Headers, Exhaust, ECU Flash/Tune, TBS, and so on do make a difference in many vehicles, but not dramatic enough to make the car a world better. It's mostly a psychological effect, and can make the car more 'fun'.

Depends on the car. A re-flashed Subaru will be a different animal- and intake/intercooler/exhaust and a boost controller will turn an MR2 around as well.

Common denominator here is that they're both turbocharged already, though.
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
lol once again, AT members that have no interest in modifying a car, just like any other person would call AT losers for having their own custom PC w/ own custom heatsink. lol losers

modifying a car is definitely more fun than building a pc.

evident:
ddmtuning.com has some pretty popular HIDs among the tuning crowd..check them out. i got mine from www.lightwerkz.com though.

hondas are boring? i guess thats what americans love cuz americans are boring then. why do honda cars lead the way? accord, civic, cr-v, oddyssey, s2000, nsx. why do those cars all stand out as spectacular cars? and not just in my opinion, by the numbers since thats all thats not subjective

cobalt SS > civic SI (i have no problem saying that a regular civic probably kicks the crap out of a regular cobalt)
S2000 - not going to be in production much longer
NSX - been OOP for quite some time. need i mention the Z06/ZR1 and viper?
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: JLee
Originally posted by: Arkaign
I like modding, but I also have no illusions about any giant gains outside of rare exceptions (ie, adding more boost to a stock FI setup is not too $$, or adding a turbo/SC, which *is* $$$). Thinks like Intake, Headers, Exhaust, ECU Flash/Tune, TBS, and so on do make a difference in many vehicles, but not dramatic enough to make the car a world better. It's mostly a psychological effect, and can make the car more 'fun'.

Depends on the car. A re-flashed Subaru will be a different animal- and intake/intercooler/exhaust and a boost controller will turn an MR2 around as well.

Common denominator here is that they're both turbocharged already, though.

Yeap, I agree, hence the bolded section of my post. The vast majority of cars don't have stock FI though.
 

JJ650

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Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
lol once again, AT members that have no interest in modifying a car, just like any other person would call AT losers for having their own custom PC w/ own custom heatsink. lol losers

modifying a car is definitely more fun than building a pc.

evident:
ddmtuning.com has some pretty popular HIDs among the tuning crowd..check them out. i got mine from www.lightwerkz.com though.

hondas are boring? i guess thats what americans love cuz americans are boring then. why do honda cars lead the way? accord, civic, cr-v, oddyssey, s2000, nsx. why do those cars all stand out as spectacular cars? and not just in my opinion, by the numbers since thats all thats not subjective

I fail to see how some people offering advice to NOT mod a '00 Accord with several mods that offer very little in return performance wise somehow make the vast majority of us here uniterested in mods.

The OP wants something exciting. Well a damned Accord with automatic ISN'T exciting. We got rid of our '01 because it was boring as fuck to drive. It was comfy, reliable and got GREAT mileage but it was gutless. That's why we got rid of it and got something "fun" that we both liked. Now, I am not saying it was POS because it wasn't. The only issue we had was the transmission (which was slipping and was under recall anyway). Other than that, it was a good car. We kept till it had 130k on the odometer and only 60k on the tranny. It could have gone on for a couple 100k more easily, but it was a BORING car.

I sure as hell wasn't going to spend 5k plus for an obnoxious exhaust, headers, suspension upgrades and what not. I wasn't willing to fork over lots of cash for meager returns in performance.
I decided to take the car and obtain as much as I possibly could and buy SOMETHING ELSE that had power, better handling and more feature and couldn't have been more pleased.
Once the warranty is out on this, I will mod it and have much better returns than I could have ever got on our Accord.


 

JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
lol once again, AT members that have no interest in modifying a car, just like any other person would call AT losers for having their own custom PC w/ own custom heatsink. lol losers

modifying a car is definitely more fun than building a pc.

evident:
ddmtuning.com has some pretty popular HIDs among the tuning crowd..check them out. i got mine from www.lightwerkz.com though.

hondas are boring? i guess thats what americans love cuz americans are boring then. why do honda cars lead the way? accord, civic, cr-v, oddyssey, s2000, nsx. why do those cars all stand out as spectacular cars? and not just in my opinion, by the numbers since thats all thats not subjective

Because they are reliable, they hold their value well and as such they are a good value for the money. And yes, short of the S2000 they are pretty boring. Although, the new Civic SI is pretty cool.

I've got nothing against someone who strips down a Civic hatch and makes it into a reasonably quick car as long as they keep the racing off the streets but an Accord? With an automatic transmission? Seriously??? Why waste your money.
 

compman25

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Originally posted by: JLee
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
lol once again, AT members that have no interest in modifying a car, just like any other person would call AT losers for having their own custom PC w/ own custom heatsink. lol losers

modifying a car is definitely more fun than building a pc.

evident:
ddmtuning.com has some pretty popular HIDs among the tuning crowd..check them out. i got mine from www.lightwerkz.com though.

hondas are boring? i guess thats what americans love cuz americans are boring then. why do honda cars lead the way? accord, civic, cr-v, oddyssey, s2000, nsx. why do those cars all stand out as spectacular cars? and not just in my opinion, by the numbers since thats all thats not subjective

A gutless Honda Accord with an automatic transmission is boring.

To claim otherwise is epic fail.

Do you have a dyno-proven 9 horsepower from your intake, or was that from the sticker?

Stickers don't lie.
 

NaOH

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Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
Originally posted by: NaOH
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
Originally posted by: slugg


- Ridiculous amount of road noise while driving anything over 30 mph
- Automagic Transmission (boring.)
- Slow. Oh my god, it's slow. Floor it, it makes noise, and nothing happens.
- Air conditioning sucks. I live in Florida, it's hot here, and it takes roughly 30 minutes of blasting the AC for my cabin to start to cool off.
- Suspension is too soft
- Headlights are too dim. Can't see anything in the rain.
- Cloth interior doesn't mean it's bad, but MY cloth interior is the hardest to clean and most uncomfortable I've ever experienced.
- Terrible anti-theft measures
- Most of all: REALLY BORING to drive.

-noise: get some dynamat or something like insulation foam. it works wonders when stuffed into the door panels
-trans: nothing u can do
-speed: u got money? theres ways u can make the car faster ya know: start w/ the cold air intake, header, downpipe, uppipe, exhaust to get some free-flow. then get a Hondata to get some more speed. www.vtec.net or www.hondaaccordforums.com for more help on those modifications
-AC: should not take 30 minutes, 97 CRV AC still blows cold. have u done any maintenance for it?
-Suspension: Eibach Pro-Kit's age great and cheap for lowering the center of gravity and turning will be much more fun, you can also get aftermarket shocks to making a car less bouncy.
-headlights: PIAA, sylvania silverstars, get some projectors + hid's for max road brightness
-interior: nothing u can do, get it detailed if its getting dirty.
-theft: get an aftermarket alarm.. they work
-drive: get some suspension modifications, some engine mods, maybe some performance tires and your car will NOT drive the same way it does now. youll then have one of the most fun-to-drive family sedans...

the list i've made above are only suggestions that i've skimmed on very briefly, this is a computer forum. if u want more detailed help on things u can get for your car that will make it drive better check out the honda accord forums and vtec forums

NO

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another AT memeber thats never heard of modifying their vehicle. how bore

its similar to all the other computers who doesn't give a crap about changing the stock cpu heatsink - what a bore.

if you've got nothing else to contribute to the OP, stop trolling

Thanks for assuming, check out my sig and click on my photo gallery. Check out the one named Skipper.....


Here I'll help you
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Okay now STFU
 

TehMac

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Because they are reliable, they hold their value well and as such they are a good value for the money. And yes, short of the S2000 they are pretty boring. Although, the new Civic SI is pretty cool.

I've got nothing against someone who strips down a Civic hatch and makes it into a reasonably quick car as long as they keep the racing off the streets but an Accord? With an automatic transmission? Seriously??? Why waste your money.

My friend has a Honda Civic SI, and tbh, a lot of them think they're hot shit, I mean, I saw one going 75-80mph in a 45mph zone, I mean c'mon, that just isn't common sense. I go 60 max, but that is on a concrete blocked off straight away (as in there's a concrete divider down the highway.
 

natto fire

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Originally posted by: JLee
Originally posted by: DarkThinker
I didn't know Toyota had such a platform. I thought BMW was one of the very few which mad I6 and coupled them with Manual transmissions. Hmmm

The Supra also had an inline 6 with a manual trans.

As did the Cressida too. (Same powertrain, actually) The M engine dates back to '65 and the F to '55. There is also the "type" engines that were first made in '35, but they were essentially Chevy stovebolts.

Also lol @ a CAI adding 9hp to the wheels, especially on a Honda which have pretty smooth factory intakes.
 

exdeath

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Originally posted by: JLee
Originally posted by: Arkaign
I like modding, but I also have no illusions about any giant gains outside of rare exceptions (ie, adding more boost to a stock FI setup is not too $$, or adding a turbo/SC, which *is* $$$). Thinks like Intake, Headers, Exhaust, ECU Flash/Tune, TBS, and so on do make a difference in many vehicles, but not dramatic enough to make the car a world better. It's mostly a psychological effect, and can make the car more 'fun'.

Depends on the car. A re-flashed Subaru will be a different animal- and intake/intercooler/exhaust and a boost controller will turn an MR2 around as well.

Common denominator here is that they're both turbocharged already, though.

Here is the problem: Imagine if your MR2 had the 5SFE and there was no such thing as the 3SGTE. 5SFE is value engineered to the teeth, meaning it is designed to the limit with zero headroom to give exactly what it gives from the factory for the lowest cost possible, no more, no less. The factory intake can flow more than the engine can consume, rendering even a CAI futile. People have blown those engines up with 6 psi and the FE head has zero room for improvement. The OEM computer is hard ROM with no capacity to be programmed or changed without going to a complete stand alone system which would be worth more than the entire drive train of the car, and still be at or near the stock limits of the engine itself. There is also zero aftermarket. About the only thing you can do is adjust the base timing from 10 to 12-16 for a hardly noticeable change to your 130 HP and that's only if you're not pinging on a hot day going up hill with the air on. Basically you're dead in the water from the start.

So say you pursued something that costs thousands of dollars in time and custom fabrication and wiring to put a better engine in it from a completely different make and model. A week later the power wears off on you, and you're still unsatisfied with the rest of your car: your seats, your wheels, your brakes, your lights, your steering, the body style, the suspension, the interior, basically the whole car.

This is the OPs situation.

My advice to OP is keep your current car as your daily driver, and find something cheap and fun that you can do on the side. This way you can afford down time on your fun car while you work with it and learn things and if you encounter economic surprises or break something you already have a reliably daily driver you can fall back to that is paid for. The last thing you want to do is get rid of your reliable car, dump a bunch of money into a new car with a big monthly payment and start messing with it.
 

slugg

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Well I'm convinced that I should tough it out and get a different car when I can afford it...

Now let's see how this economy treats me.

LOL thanks
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: slugg
Well I'm convinced that I should tough it out and get a different car when I can afford it...

Now let's see how this economy treats me.

LOL thanks

Good choice.

Throwing money at an economy car like that is a total waste. You'll get zero of that money back when it comes time to sell, in fact, it will probably be worth even less.
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: slugg
Well I'm convinced that I should tough it out and get a different car when I can afford it...

Now let's see how this economy treats me.

LOL thanks

Good choice.

Throwing money at an economy car like that is a total waste. You'll get zero of that money back when it comes time to sell, in fact, it will probably be worth even less.

:thumbsup:

the economy will probably still be in your favor as a buyer for quite some time.
 
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