Mining is a cancer. Nothing good about it.
Somebody's angry about GPU pricing and scarcity, and being less-than-reasonable, me thinks, lol.Maybe mining should be illegal. Time for it to go.
I'm honestly wondering if there's been lasting damage to the PC gaming market. It's been basically, what, more than a year since GPUs were available at retail prices? And MSRP probably won't be coming back soon. A lot of people who wanted to build a gaming PC probably just got consoles instead when they saw cards that should be $200-300 going for three times that.
[insert post about crypto having no legal use cases besides speculation here]
Yes, I "beefed up" the mining farm then, at basically MSRP. Been mining since then, and ... it's been pretty good, TBH.Nov-Dec was possible to get a card at retail and arguably less than retail.
But it makes you money. What's the word for a parasite that has benefits to the host?
Maybe mining should be illegal. Time for it to go.
Are we as a free society going to go down that slippery slope?
Regulate what you can and cannot compute? Regulate what you can and cannot calculate? Regulate what you can and cannot say? Sing?
Remember, computer code is speech, and the inputs and outputs are considered free speech as well.
Might as well shred the Constitution while your at it. (/s !)
Edit: Might as well make PC Gaming illegal as well. Nothing but murder simulators, and casinos for children (*lootbox games). If you really want to go down that route.
Enjoy your Fiat dollars, when the Fed prints so many and devalues them into nothing. Enjoy brings a wheel-barrow full of money to walmart to shop for milk.It serves no purpose. You are wasting resources. Just because you decided to jump on the crypto bandwagon doesn't mean that you can defend it. Mining is a pointless activity. If they made cryptocurrency illegal you wouldn't be mining. Am I missing something? We regulate all sorts of things. If the point of cryptocurrency is to evade taxes and for illegal activities, then it should be regulated out of existence.
Enjoy your Fiat dollars, when the Fed prints so many and devalues them into nothing. Enjoy brings a wheel-barrow full of money to walmart to shop for milk.
Edit: And as far as "evading taxes", kind of hard to do that, when the entire Bitcoin block-chain ledger is PUBLIC.
But I suppose, ignorant (*note, did not say stupid) people are going to complain.
They wanted to ban cars when they were invented too, because they were "too dangerous for pedestrians".
Enjoy your Fiat dollars, when the Fed prints so many and devalues them into nothing. Enjoy brings a wheel-barrow full of money to walmart to shop for milk.
Edit: And as far as "evading taxes", kind of hard to do that, when the entire Bitcoin block-chain ledger is PUBLIC.
But I suppose, ignorant (*note, did not say stupid) people are going to complain about new technology that they "don't understand".
They wanted to ban cars when they were invented too, because they were "too dangerous for pedestrians".
I mis-spoke when I talked about milk prices rising. Staple goods won't rise in price, they are controlled by collusion between producers and gov't (farm subsidies). Where you will see the inflation, is in prices of "luxury goods" first. And what do you know, GPU prices were rising quite a bit there. They probably won't drop down to former levels, ever, because of this inflationary effect of money-printing.I have been hearing this fear since the 80s, it still hasn’t happened.
Funny how many large corporations have been buying up Bitcoin as of late, even faster than it is currently being mined.Nonsense. You can't believe that. You just digested all those lies because you got into crypto. It's not the savior. We didn't need saving.
I mis-spoke when I talked about milk prices rising. Staple goods won't rise in price, they are controlled by collusion between producers and gov't (farm subsidies). Where you will see the inflation, is in prices of "luxury goods" first. And what do you know, GPU prices were rising quite a bit there. They probably won't drop down to former levels, ever, because of this inflationary effect of money-printing.
And poor bigboxes, wants to solely blame miners for a Country's (most of them, really) economic policy. (I say "poor", because if he had the initial capital to buy a GPU at today's inflated prices, he should have, and mined during down-time to earn its cost back.)
Well, yes, I do it to "make money". The daily grind. Should be familiar to most PC gamers, especially those that were active during the MMO craze. How many of those players, learned to "multi-box", or "bot" to gain in-game gold, with a minimum of effort on their part?I don't want to join your pointless activity. You only do it to make money. Take the money out of it (speculative) and you wouldn't be wasting resources on it. I'm not blaming minors for economic policy. It's something that shouldn't exist. But if that's how you justify buying up all the video cards than you are OK with it.
Well, yes, I do it to "make money". The daily grind. Should be familiar to most PC gamers, especially those that were active during the MMO craze. How many of those players, learned to "multi-box", or "bot" to gain in-game gold, with a minimum of effort on their part?
How is what I'm doing, (in "Real Life" (tm) ), that much different?
And if you think that I "stole" those video cards that *I* purchased, from you, because you don't have a (newer?) video card, and want one... I've got news for you, we live in a capitalistic society, and it has its benefits, and its downsides.
I took my risks, and am reaping the rewards of it. Gotta spend some money to make some money, generally. It's not a pile of Gold, really, that fell into my lap. It's not "easy money", it takes time to build up (or money / space / electrical power) to scale up.
For the record, I believe that one aspect that led to Crypto-currency's creation, was the belief that the "current banking system" was a "waste of resources", and they chose to "innovate them out of existance".It's a waste of resources. I hope they regulate it out of existence.
For the record, I believe that one aspect that led to Crypto-currency's creation, was the belief that the "current banking system" was a "waste of resources", and they chose to "innovate them out of existance".
For sure though, I mean, sending thousands (millions) of diesel trucks around between bulding to building, hauling cash, and burning fossil fuels, is so much more efficient than a computer network and PCs running it. Right? It's not like the current banking system has no overhead, as far as resource usage, and it certainly has a LOT of downsides, when dealing with banks and whatnot.
Why not use a hassle-free electronic system, where citizens contract with citizens DIRECTLY, and cut out the (bloated, IMHO) middleman layer.
The internet allows us to communicate around-the-world, at the speed of light (nearly), for such a low price that consumer network connections are usually mostly "unlimited" (well, aside from Comcast)... why not do the same thing with our system of money, that the internet did to the postal and parcel services?
Or do you want to make the internet illegal, because it's a "waste of resources", and "we already had the postal system". Because that seems to be your position on this matter.
Somebody's Salty.You just took advantage of this to buy video cards that you normally wouldn't have bought. I know your history.
Somebody's Salty.
... and I still don't own any Ampere or RDNA2 cards. So I'm not sure what your point is. Other than me buying up stock of last-gen cards, to pay for the R&D for your "new, shiny" model of video cards.
... but keep telling yourself that, somehow, people like me are "the problem". (Where are the RTX 3070 ti FE cards??? Where?)
Then you, too, "are part of the problem". You are breathing, are you not? Wasting oxygen, and contributing to global warming. Yes, you. Stop breathing. (*)You are part of the problem. Yes. You try to distance yourself from this by saying that everyone else is doing it.
Then you, too, "are part of the problem". You are breathing, are you not? Wasting oxygen, and contributing to global warming. Yes, you. Stop breathing. (*)
(*) This was of course sarcasm, and toungue-in-cheek, but that's about the same level of "contributing to the 'problem'" as I am to the GPU shortage with my meager amount of cards.
Heck, I've even shipped "gamers" on this forum, GPUs for the price of shipping, because theirs died. To somehow paint me as "the enemy" because I mine casually, is like GamerGate-level partisian B.S.
Funny how many large corporations have been buying up Bitcoin as of late, even faster than it is currently being mined.
Either:
1) They know something that you don't, or
2) They're incredibly stupid, in which case, you should send them a resume to apply for CEO position, to save them from their stupidity.
Well, OK, fair enough. You are certainly entitled to your opinion on it.
Sorry to cause you stress. I don't have anything against you. I just unleash the Excessive Hyperbole (tm) when someone suggests threatening my financial existence.
Surely, you could understand, if you were a middle-manager, and someone started posting that they were useless corporate machinery, and that they should all get fired.
Edit: And I apologize for calling you "poor" earlier, just because you weren't going to pay scalper prices for an Ampere GPU and then mine on it. Reading your sig, clearly you have a much nicer rig than I do, you're obviously not poor. (I kinda am.)
We're kinda in the same boat, if we've both been waiting to snag any kind of decent Ampere card at MSRP for gaming.