I'm totally stopping sodas - Anyone else here massively addicted?

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I just also left soda after knowing the fact that they wipe out calcium and other essentials from human body. Moreover, the bottles contains high level of sugar.

I came across a story about a girl who was addicted to soda bottles and soon she went into a situation that she couldn't even walk and then moved onto wheel chair. The doctor asked about her diet from her family which they told him including soda bottles. The doctor advised the girl to leave bottles as soon as possible. She left that and recovered in a couple of days.

Weird. I don't think there is any sugar in soda cans, but who knows what they put into the plastic bottles. They are clear like sugar, so it makes sense...
 
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Jeeebus

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so it's been about 6 months or so of not drinking soda (with the occasional relapse every 2 months or so of having a soda and then feeling sick afterward from the system shock). Not crediting lack of soda exclusively (as I've been working out twice daily with mostly cardio stuff), but thus far have lost around 15 lbs (from 218ish down to 203 yesterday).
 
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paperfist

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I havent drank pop in I dont even know how long. Probably 2 years. I dont miss it at all. A few weeks ago I bought one of those 99 cent cans of iced tea / lemonade and it was so sweet I had to mix it with water. The resulting mix probably had 20 calories per cup. Anything more than that is too sweet. You have to cut sugar out of your diet completely. In order to do that, you have to view it as a poison or a toxin. It's really not far from the truth. The same is actually true for all carbs. The human body requires exactly zero carbs.

Same here. I can't even drink Dr. Pepper or Mountain Dew anymore it just tastes super sweet and nasty. Prior to dropping that stuff I'd have no problem downing 2 liters of it a day. Preferably in slushy form

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AFAIK:

Carbohydrates are a useful element in one's diet because they're basically a slow-release source of energy, which is useful for a working day. The alternative would involve sugar highs and crashes, and would probably do very odd things to one's appetite at the very least.

IMO:

The digestive system, just like most other organs in the body, needs a workout in order to stay in good working order. Carbs and other complex structures are harder work to break down and absorb necessary nutrients and liquids, providing the workout. I would suspect that anyone on a permanent theoretical liquid diet with all the nutrients that the rest of the body needs would lose the ability to eat anything remotely complex without first being reconditioned to it like a baby needs to be; it's just asking for multiplying food intolerances and bacterial infections due to a gut full of millions of types of bacteria with nothing to do and nothing to help maintain a balance. Just about any biological system needs variation to stay in peak condition.

Some carbs aren't slow release at all. They'll make your glycemic index rise almost as fast as liquid carbs.

And I'm no doctor, but I believe carbs are needed to support brain functions.

so it's been about 6 months or so of not drinking soda (with the occasional relapse every 2 months or so of having a soda and then feeling sick afterward from the system shock). Not crediting lack of soda exclusively (as I've been working out twice daily with mostly cardio stuff), but thus far have lost around 15 lbs (from 218ish down to 203 yesterday).

Hey congrats! I'd love to be at that weight

Initially I dropped a lot after quitting soda and not working out, but I also cut out McDonalds. I've been stuck at 225 for about 6 months. The past few weeks I finally managed to get to 217, not sure if it's because I started to eat avocados, pomegranates or if adding one of those green shake meal replacements or daily salads has got me moving down again.
 
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paperfist

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The body has a mechanism -- gluconeogenesis -- for creating the small amount of glucose needed even when carbs aren't present.

That's interesting. I thought that was always the knock on Atkins 'diets'. I had the most success with that dropping 80 pounds and keeping most of it off. But then I listened to 'you need carbs' to sustain brain function talk that went around.
 

Mai72

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I am not and was never a soda drinker. Thank God. But, I do love sweets. Especially pies, cakes and chocolate.

My downfall.
 

tnt118

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That's interesting. I thought that was always the knock on Atkins 'diets'. I had the most success with that dropping 80 pounds and keeping most of it off. But then I listened to 'you need carbs' to sustain brain function talk that went around.

This gets outside my wheelhouse but I believe the concept is the same and it's just a matter of degree. On a ketogenic diet, for example, protein is kept to a very moderate level and the body doesn't convert anything to glucose except as needed for the most basic things. At an Atkins level intake, the body can become dependent on gluconeogenisis as a primary method of fuel. I welcome corrections to that if anyone has a better knowledge.

I've substituted La Croix for soda (even diet soda causes reactions I try to avoid) and it has worked fairly well. A couple of co-workers and I are addicted to the stuff.
 

Craig234

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Hi Chaotic, good post.

I think you're right, that it's not understood how bad soda is for you.

Rationally you can learn that the ratio of enjoyment to harm is way out of wack - like smoking. One can a day is very harmful - I don't have the numbers handy - and more, which is easy, a lot worse.

I'm trying to mostly eliminate them also - but used to do things like stop by A&W and buy a gallon of fresh-made and close to drink it.

I don't know what'll work for you. A couple ideas are:

- Remember it's effectively poison.
- Try to find a substitute sugar fix - a cookie? A candy?
- Remember water is what we're made to drink - and if you drink that first you can pretty much replace the soda. You don't want a gallon of water and then another gallon of soda. It's natural, healthy, free, and enjoyable.
- Having 'a taste' of soda can perhaps help.
If I go to a place with unlimited drinks included, I might have two ounces of a good soda - and then fill the cup with unsweetened Iced Tea after I drink that. Maybe just 'a taste' of soda is enough - do you really need 32 ounces?
If you need a sugary drink - I sometimes mix sweetened icea tea and unsweetened.

Soda is one of those health disasters built around profit like cigarettes.

I was interested to hear that early on in fast food, the standard portion of a soda was eight ounces. Now you can get 64 - with refills.

A&W is so darned good... I still can't pass it up easily. Luckily it's miles away.
 

Mai72

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I like to drink Crystal Light Lemonade and Green tea. Plus plenty of water.

Sugar is addictive. Especially HFCS. Long term effects are devastating. Why do you think countries have banned it? They know how harmful it can be on the body. It's all habitual. Change the way you view drinking soda. Make it so unpleasant that you never want to touch it again.
 

Muse

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I never touch soda anymore. I cut out my diet cola when a Costco employee told me that the stuff in my cart wasn't good for me! Really! I liked his attitude and never bought it again. I tried some later that I had sitting for ages in my house and it was terrible. Fact is, diet cola tastes nasty when it's sat around (in unopened cans!) too long. I tried ordering regular cola with a meal at a restaurant a few years ago but couldn't finish it. Didn't taste good to me.

Nowadays, I don't give soda a thought, anywhere, any time. Flavored carbonated sugar water is dumbass "food." I'm very healthy and I could tolerate some but I have zero inclination to even consider soda these days.

A lot of the food I eat has water content, of course. The fluids I drink are largely from my home brewed organic coffee, which I make not very strong. Strong enough to taste and enjoy, but not strong enough to make me feel overly wired, and I space it out. I never add sugar, just some non-fat milk, which gives it a little sweet taste, I think, I guess due to the lactose content.
 
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Ichinisan

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I like to drink Crystal Light Lemonade and Green tea. Plus plenty of water.

Sugar is addictive. Especially HFCS. Long term effects are devastating. Why do you think countries have banned it? They know how harmful it can be on the body. It's all habitual. Change the way you view drinking soda. Make it so unpleasant that you never want to touch it again.
What countries have banned sugar?
 

Mai72

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What countries have banned sugar?

Not sugar but HFCS. Europe is an example.

It's not banned but restricted. It's not used as often in Asia as well. I know in South Korea it's not used as much as America.
 

Ichinisan

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Not sugar but HFCS. Europe is an example.

It's not banned but restricted. It's not used as often in Asia as well. I know in South Korea it's not used as much as America.
Ah, ignorance.

High Fructose Corn Syrup

Fructose is sugar. Comes from fruits. Corn is a fruit.

There’s really no difference between the fructose you get from corn and the fructose you get from any other fruit.

We just have a surplus of cheap fructose (perhaps largely due to government corn subsidies) – enough to replace the sucrose beet/cane sugar we used to use.

People just think “high fructose corn syrup” sounds like a scary chemical and they demonize it.

The fact is, we generally have too much sugar and any kind is bad for us.
 

CZroe

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Ah, ignorance.

High Fructose Corn Syrup

Fructose is sugar. Comes from fruits. Corn is a fruit.

There’s really no difference between the fructose you get from corn and the fructose you get from any other fruit.

We just have a surplus of cheap fructose (perhaps largely due to government corn subsidies) – enough to replace the sucrose beet/cane sugar we used to use.

People just think “high fructose corn syrup” sounds like a scary chemical and they demonize it.

The fact is, we generally have too much sugar and any kind is bad for us.
Orange juice must also be "devastating."
 

SlitheryDee

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Orange juice must also be "devastating."

I don't know about devastating, but I don't see a material difference between a glass of orange juice and a can of non-diet soda. You probably shouldn't have either one honestly.
 

Craig234

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Every nutritionist I know of warns against fruit juices as similar to sodas, though they recommend actual fruit.
 

talkcc144Anand

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I agree, I've been drinking naked branded juices for a few months. I recently noticed how much sugar it has and cut back a lot. I enjoy Harmless Harvest branded Coconut water which has about 14 grams per serving. Overall I now look for about 12gps in drinks.

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J.Wilkins

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I stopped drinking soda when I grew up and had to buy it for myself.

Saved the money for beer in the weekends instead.

If you get used to drinking water there is no issue just drinking water with your meals.
 

Tweak155

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I don't know about devastating, but I don't see a material difference between a glass of orange juice and a can of non-diet soda. You probably shouldn't have either one honestly.
It's typical to add sugar on top of the natural sugar to things like orange juice as well.

I agree, though, I don't drink either one (soda / fruit juice). I might have some sips or a can every few months, but for the most part I completely avoid it.

I do however love my coffee (black)!
 
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gammaray

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Ah, ignorance.

"There’s really no difference between the fructose you get from corn and the fructose you get from any other fruit."

There is a difference, for example if you would swallow a full spoon of raw honey, you would get;

"All of the B-complex, A, C, D, E, and K, minerals and trace elements: magnesium, sulfur, phosphorus, iron, calcium, chlorine, potassium, iodine, sodium, copper, and manganese. The live enzyme content of honey is one of the highest of all foods. Honey also contains hormones, and antimicrobial and antibacterial factors."

while if you swallowed a fullspoon of HFCS you would not get anything else but pure refined chemical sugar.
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
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There is a difference, for example if you would swallow a full spoon of raw honey, you would get;

"All of the B-complex, A, C, D, E, and K, minerals and trace elements: magnesium, sulfur, phosphorus, iron, calcium, chlorine, potassium, iodine, sodium, copper, and manganese. The live enzyme content of honey is one of the highest of all foods. Honey also contains hormones, and antimicrobial and antibacterial factors."

while if you swallowed a fullspoon of HFCS you would not get anything else but pure refined chemical sugar.
LOL! When was honey the standard sweetener for sodas? Anti corn syrup fearmongerers complain that “high fructose corn syrup” has largely replaced “sugar” on the ingredients list for most consumer food products. Well get this: “Sugar” has always meant “beet/cane sugar” — which is FAR more processed / refined than corn syrup. The more you know...

That last line is hilarious!
 

gammaray

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oh yes i forgot the context of sodas, which i don't understand why people still drink that stuff.
 

ArchAngel777

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oh yes i forgot the context of sodas, which i don't understand why people still drink that stuff.

Why do people take drugs? Why do people bite their nails? Why do people drink excessively? Why do people engross themselves in porn? Why do people smoke? Why do people do one night stands? Why do people cheat on their partners? Why do people eat junk food? Why do people do adrenaline fueled dangerous activities?

I'd wager not one person here is immune to bad habits or thrills seeking that is not healthy for them overall and I would also bet that the majority who recognize this still think to themselves "Yeah, but mine isn't that bad, or as bad as X" Which could be true, but seems very convenient doesn't it? I think the phrase "Choose your poison" applies to almost everyone.
 
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