I'm.....

[Engineer]

Ashamed....

I gave you guys a goal (Goal Here!) and you guys are not living up to your end of the bargain.

I thought this would be a nice time to break the little, small, tiny, trout-busting fight we're having over *no mini-teams* vs *yes mini-teams* and remind you that:

DPC: 2,260,323
TA : 1,344,595

...Now if we put as much effort into solving this problem as we have in not only creating/but trying to solve the issue (?) of mini-teams and driving people away, then maybe we could BBQ a few cows...

I wan't this goal to be enforced now!!!!! NO EXCEPTIONS....YES, I'M SHOUTING! STRAIGHTEN UP!

Live long and crack..er..prosper!

Engineer...Proud member of Team Anandtech and of the mini-team, The Federation!

 

[TwoFace]

I'll try my best to help reach that goal Engineer!

I'll setup a couple of P2s today (I hope)

and I've been promised a free box from a customer of my fathers... dunno what it is yet but it will be cracking!

Two-Face

<EDIT>Oh and I'm ashamed as well, I've not been assimilating enough lately!</EDIT>

 

[Russ]

Engineer,

Aye aye (is that spelled correctly?) Captain! And thanks for getting the focus back to the real enemy.

Russ, NCNE

 

[mechBgon]

How are they doing that much output? Before MF6 they didn't have that high an output, did they? Maybe they finally assimilated the cyber-cafe chain they were shooting for... ; ) Whatever the case, I'd have to say the DPC have turned up the heat on us.

 

[Engineer]

Tom,

Remember, they were saving upwards of 200 to 400K per day sometimes for the MF6...Also, I think there are several small DPC teams that have waited until the MF6 was over to dump their blocks...I estimated before the MF6 started, by the amount the MF6 was growing in their pproxies, that their output would be 2.1 Million per day.... I hate to be right on that one!

 

[jinsonxu]

Darn, i only joined TA RC5 recently. I'm confused by this. What are the miniteams and MF6?

By the way, here's my progress:
[Sep 16 02:18:57 UTC] 279 RC5 packets (1000 work units) are in buff-out.rc5
.....10%.....20%.....30%.....40%.....50%.....60%.....70%

 

[Russ]

jinsonxu,

Mini teams are smaller groups who get together and combine their power to crack for the main team. MF6 stands for Mega-Flush 6. It is something the DPC's did the first week of this month. Set aside a portion of blocks for a period of time, and dump them all at once.

And, welcome aboard!

Edit: I see that you've a thousand blocks stored up. Getting ready for a little MF of your own?

Russ, NCNE

 

[Slapstick]

Engineer, you gave me my new sig, (at least for the time being). So to your goal I added a 2 more PII 450's today and I don't care where my stats are in relation to other members of TA, I just don't like a /. In front of me or Dutch Cow gaining on my A$$!

One of these days I'll learn how to spell.

 

[Engineer]

Thanks Slapstick, I needed that! (and the 2 PII 450's for the TEAM also!...Thanks)

 

[jinsonxu]

That was a fast reply! Thanks Russ! You're my idol in RC5! LOL
By the way, does TA have miniteams? Where can i join one?

 

[Russ]

Yes, we have mini teams. There is a thread in here somewhere about how to join, but I don't have the link off hand. Maybe somebody has it bookmarked?

Russ, NCNE

 

[SirKiekeboe]

Please do what engeneer says, assimilate as manny computers as you can.

We from DPC like a good competition in the team stats and if you guys won't do it than nobody will and that would give us the feeling of taking candy from a baby and that is bad

 

[jinsonxu]

Ok, i got it,
FAQ for Miniteam

Now, any recommendations on which to join? Why are there miniteams anyway? The total output without miniteams would still be the same right?

 

[SirKiekeboe]

a mini team has more members who can assimilate more computers at more companys than one man can and they have more frends who they can infect to becom a member.

 

[GT1999]

I have a mini-team, and we could sure use your help. Another good one to join would probably be Paulsons or TWTA. But the only reason I say that is not because they're the better ones, but because we are the miniteams with the least amount of power. The whole point of mini-teams was to get members of Team Anandtech up high in the stats so more people would want to join. I've already had somebody email me who was not a part of Team Anandtech, but saw my stats page from distributed.net and now is probably going to join my team.

You're more than welcome to join my team, or any other mini-team for that matter. You would especially be welcome in the smaller teams that need growth in order to spread word of Team Anandtech. If you would like info on 'my' mini-team for TA, email me by clicking on the &quot;know&quot; in my signature or just send me a PM. I'll help you configure your client and help you with any questions. Many of the other guys here in the forum can help you as well.

Thank you for joining Team Anandtech!

 

[Russ]

<< The total output without miniteams would still be the same right? >>



In theory, yes, in reality, no. If we had the same number of individuals and systems and no mini's, than yes, output would be the same. But, we would not. The addition of mini teams has allowed us to assimilate more cows, and thus increase production.

If you do decide that you'd like to join a mini, I'd recommend TWTA.

EDIT: Or Team Zero.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Engineer]

jinsonxu,

First, welcome to the wacky world of Team Anandtech RC5....! We really need your help! Team Anandtech that is!

The reasons that people join mini-teams are various. Some do it because of the friendship that is developed with others...Some have smaller herds and like the rewards of seeing larger stats...Some join just to knock other mini-teams down!

As for the output being the same: If all the individual members of mini-teams worked as hard outside the mini-team (as they really should) as in the mini-team, than yes! But the little races and joking with the other mini-teams has (IMO) spurred growth among those members by a tremendous amount.

For me: We started out as individual racers: Engineer, MadMerc, Marty and DanToo! We raced to 100K...After the race (my first..Great time!)..I had developed such a friendship with these guys, that we decided to join forces to try to move up a little faster..Then we found the RC5Crackheads (what a great group of 2 guys?)...We were getting beat regularly by them...That spurred our interest even further to add more PC's and cracking power...The rest is history...!!

I don't have any recommendations of any mini-team to join...They all work very hard for the TEAM and have fun poking at each other..You don't have to join at all, as you are still welcomed, as is anyone else, very much here on Team Anandtech! I know a few people who would kill me for this, but I would recommend (off the record) that if you chose a team, you couldn't pick a nicer group of hard working guys like the RC5Crackheads...Thanks guys..

Thanks TEAM!

Welcome one and all...Happy cracking and lets reslove the DPC being #1 problem ...

 

[RaySun2Be]

Engineer,
I've done my part for today. We (finally) placed an order for 13 P3 733mhz desktops, and 14 P3750mhz laptops. They won't be on 24/7, and they are replacing PCs instead of new adds, but it should help the team out a bit. It's gonna take 3 to 4 weeks before they are in and crack..er I mean working.

SirKiekeboe,
Your mini-team definition is not quite right, at least for TA. Most of the mini-teams were formed by members who did NOT have access to large work herds, and did NOT have the resources to build huge crack racks, and did NOT have the ability to assimilate more than others. In fact, most were originally formed by members with small herds in order to combine forces to be competitive with those who did have access to work herds, crack rack resources, and assimilation possibilities. It's kind of grown from there into mini-teams that are compeititive with each other, and have different levels and abilities to grow and assimilate.



Ray

 

[Chakotay]

SirKiekeboe: Ray is right some of our miniteams also have n't got any members with huge herds. The team I am in for example, Clan of Nine ( u could call it the DPC version of TA Cube) has no members with more than 4k a day...

 

[Goi]

I'm giving it all I've got Engineer. I've even got 2 of my friends to run it whenever their systems are on, but 1 of them slacked off. My keyrate is levelling off...I just don't have any more to give

The DPCs are getting such high keyrates simply because they have like twice the amount of active cracking members than we do. So I suggest we start a campaign that everyone on TA get just ONE other person to join...doesn't matter if he has a Thunderbird 1GHz or a 486 SX-33, just make up the number!

 

[SirKiekeboe]

I see that you guys only read the first part.

I told you that a mini-team has more members.
each member has the chance of a work herd so they could grow in that way.
BUT each member also have frends (I hope) who also could be converted in to cracking for TA so they also could grow in that way.

If reason 1 doesn't help reason 2 could help and that could be the trigger for reason 1 to get in affect.

By the way chakotay I know of your team, I am a member of team killemall from DPC.
In that team there are only 5 members with a work herd and 20 or so with their own stuff, I have asked my personal frends to join me in a sub-mini-team to get higher in the team ranking list and that works.
So as any body could see both rules for a mini team could work to gether for the growth of a team. It is just a way of looking at it.

Any way, I hope that team AT gets bigger so it would become more of a good competition between TA and DPC.
Remember DPC is still growing so TA should grow to and d.net would get in trouble with it becourse of the workload they are getting from the teams whitch they can't handle.

(for give me my typo's becourse I'm not used to type english)

 

[siep]

there is another thing i've not seen here,most of our teams have mentioned the dpc in their name.

this means that yes there is a fierce competition going on,but we are all remembered of our higher goal by looking at our stats.

first we are dpc,second we look at our miniteams.

keep on being a worthy opponent and make everybody happy

 

[Goi]

Yeah, I was Carnasaur before but I've recently changed my name to [TA]Goi

 

[JimMc]

<< I'm..... >>

confused...

I'm in TA but not a mini-team; but mini-team totals, as long as they are affiliated with TA, count for TA, right? So why do people care if some TA members who are friends, band together, get a webpage, a theme, whatever, those mini-team units still count for TA, correct? As an individual my totals will never match those of a mini-team, but my totals will never match somebody with 2 1 Gig TBirds either, so what difference does it make? My units still count for TA and whether that puts me in 12,456th or 43,589th place overall, who cares? I must be missing something...

 

[Engineer]

JimMc,

I agree with you whole heartedly.....Team Anandtech is first (We must defeat /. and pull away from DPC....We must!!!)....The mini-team fun (and for me, it's a blast...)...is just that, fun..Since the last uneasiness over mini-teams, we all have calmed down and posted less &quot;trash talk&quot; threads (even though those threads were directed at each other mini-team and were all in fun)...We've assimilated even more (not just people who were already cracking for TA either)...I agree....

Engineer

P.S. We did the 1.3Million+ again today....DPC = 2Million+ again....Unless we change, the race is over before we even get to the front