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sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
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Well, now the ball is in their court.
Can they play the game, or just sit on the ball?
But I will clearly predict one thing...
That anyone and everyone under the age of 45 will not know the term or concept of Social Security when they retire.
And damn good luck to you! That luck you will need.

Here is what will happen.
No more security in social security. Period!
Everyone will have a privatized 401K plan solely in the hands of the banks and financial institutions.
The management fees will be staggering, and hearts will skip several beats with every stock market dive.
There will no longer be a set retirement age. Period!
Your financial advisor will tell you when, and if, you are to retire. Ever.
Retirement will solely depend on your 401K plan status.
Any guaranteed security for the senior citizen will be theory long forgotten.

Some will retire at the age of 66. Others at 76. Most at 86 - 96.
And many at 106. Which means, never.
Retirement age and or retirement opportunity in the future will depend on:
#1, your privatized social security i.e. 401K plan.
#2, market rate of return for that plan.
#3, the health of the US stock market.
#4, bank management fees deducted monthly for your plan.
#5, the percentage of profit banks will make off your plan.
#6, and the big question, can a senior citizen of the age 85 re-enter the work force after their 401K i.e. privatized social security plan becomes depleted of all funds?

This will be the reality of retirement for everyone now at the age of 45, and younger.
The debate over a set or fixed retirement age will become moot.
Retirement age will vary from individual to individual, solely dependent on remaining funds and financial health of the economy and the stock market.
The wealthy will retire early, and the middle classed will retire much later in life.
Your financial advisor will set your retirement age, if you are lucky enough to experience retirement at all before your death.

Welcome to your republican controlled government. Enjoy!
 

werepossum

Elite Member
Jul 10, 2006
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I have to say that war under Obama is MASSIVELY less than that under bush by any reasonable measure. Less money, fewer troops committed, fewer casualties on both sides.

Additionally, there is smart debt and there is dumb debt. Running up debts during a depression is smart. Running up debts during an economic expansion is foolish. Sure the OP would probably post the same thing even if these things weren't the case, but there is a pretty huge distinction to be drawn.

The fact that you hate yourself has probably more to do with why you want to put eskimo is some odd box I'm going to assume you invented out of a willful need to deny some point he is making because it messes with some fuzzy wuzzies you are fond of than it does with math or depression. Since you are dealing with a bright and logical person, assume the best from him. If you think he stated what can't possibly be, it is rather likely he didn't actually say what you may like to believe he did. These are naturally only suggestions. If I am right or wrong, or you are, or eskimo is, it's not going to spoil my joy when I watch the sun set.
Not having access to the meds you guys share I am unable to share your psychosis. Sorry, dude.

Evidently reading comprehension is another sign of self hate. Who knew?

You do know I'm talking about 2014, right?

I'll tell you what happened in 64. Senate Republicans gave Johnson the necessary votes to get the acts passed. Pissed off racist Dixiecrats left the Dems and knocked on the door of Republicans. GOP opened the door and said welcome. Been that way since.
You might want to . . .

Nah, who am I kidding?
 

Pneumothorax

Golden Member
Nov 4, 2002
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You should look up the term "filibuster", it will help you sleep better at night.

Fern

Mitch should return the favor to Dirty Harry, go thermonuclear and remove the filibuster entirely including Supreme Court nominations.
 

werepossum

Elite Member
Jul 10, 2006
29,873
463
126
Well, now the ball is in their court.
Can they play the game, or just sit on the ball?
But I will clearly predict one thing...
That anyone and everyone under the age of 45 will not know the term or concept of Social Security when they retire.
And damn good luck to you! That luck you will need.

Here is what will happen.
No more security in social security. Period!
Everyone will have a privatized 401K plan solely in the hands of the banks and financial institutions.
The management fees will be staggering, and hearts will skip several beats with every stock market dive.
There will no longer be a set retirement age. Period!
Your financial advisor will tell you when, and if, you are to retire. Ever.
Retirement will solely depend on your 401K plan status.
Any guaranteed security for the senior citizen will be theory long forgotten.

Some will retire at the age of 66. Others at 76. Most at 86 - 96.
And many at 106. Which means, never.
Retirement age and or retirement opportunity in the future will depend on:
#1, your privatized social security i.e. 401K plan.
#2, market rate of return for that plan.
#3, the health of the US stock market.
#4, bank management fees deducted monthly for your plan.
#5, the percentage of profit banks will make off your plan.
#6, and the big question, can a senior citizen of the age 85 re-enter the work force after their 401K i.e. privatized social security plan becomes depleted of all funds?

This will be the reality of retirement for everyone now at the age of 45, and younger.
The debate over a set or fixed retirement age will become moot.
Retirement age will vary from individual to individual, solely dependent on remaining funds and financial health of the economy and the stock market.
The wealthy will retire early, and the middle classed will retire much later in life.
Your financial advisor will set your retirement age, if you are lucky enough to experience retirement at all before your death.

Welcome to your republican controlled government. Enjoy!
Wow, it is as if the Democrats spent every dime in the "trust fund" and still couldn't save it from the GOP.

You left out the plague killing Democrats' first born, not to mention dogs and cats living together.
 

schmuckley

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Aug 18, 2011
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Hindsight is 20/20.

The people wanted blood after 9/11. George Bush gave them what they he wanted.

For some reason getting what you want is the republicans fault?

fixed.

That was just one big cronies grab-the-peoples-money fiasco.

It also bred ISIS.

I think something good might actually get done now. :biggrin:

About 50% of what needs to be, anyway.

I also am laughing about how twisted the neo-coms in here panties are.

LOL
 
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fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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afghanistan:

564 deaths under Bush

1679 deaths under berrie

math is hard

Apparently math is hard. I seem to remember there being more than one war that the U.S. participated in under Bush. I wonder how many people died in that one?
 

sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
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Another interesting thing to notice, the role of the news media in brainwashing the voting public.
For a long time now the media has been experimenting with tactics to swing elections and distract voters by pushing nonsense issues into frantic hype.
Not that the media leans politically one way or the other, as a rule, haha.
But for them this is just a game, an experiment with power, to see just how vulnerable the viewing public is. If they the media can actually influence opinions.

My proof?
Ebola.

The media has pushed into extremes this Ebola scare, then linked the scare to Obama.
But the proof will now become obvious when the media drops any Ebola news from here on.
The very same Ebola scare that was suppose to threaten and kill thousands of Americans last week, will hardly get any mention by the news media now that the election is over.

We will be lucky if 30 seconds of air time is given to Ebola.
And the same goes for ISIS.
Don't be surprise to hear very little if nothing concerning both Ebola and ISIS from the media.
The media realized that they do have the power to influence elections, and get into the brains of the public.
And for them, that equals great power. The power of influence through hype, fear, and illogical associations.
In other words, scare the shit out of the people with hype of fear.
Then, sit back and see what happens in the voting booth.
People are brainless illogical schmucks, and the news media once again proved exactly that.

Who needs ISIS when we have Rush and Fox News?
ISIS may cut off heads, but the public just had their balls removed by the news media.
 

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
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Apparently math is hard. I seem to remember there being more than one war that the U.S. participated in under Bush.

I wonder how many people died in that one?

Bush reframed from killing us citizens.

Should we discuss how many us citizens obama ordered killed without due process?
 

Mai72

Lifer
Sep 12, 2012
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Another interesting thing to notice, the role of the news media in brainwashing the voting public.
For a long time now the media has been experimenting with tactics to swing elections and distract voters by pushing nonsense issues into frantic hype.
Not that the media leans politically one way or the other, as a rule, haha.
But for them this is just a game, an experiment with power, to see just how vulnerable the viewing public is. If they the media can actually influence opinions.

My proof?
Ebola.

The media has pushed into extremes this Ebola scare, then linked the scare to Obama.
But the proof will now become obvious when the media drops any Ebola news from here on.
The very same Ebola scare that was suppose to threaten and kill thousands of Americans last week, will hardly get any mention by the news media now that the election is over.

We will be lucky if 30 seconds of air time is given to Ebola.
And the same goes for ISIS.
Don't be surprise to hear very little if nothing concerning both Ebola and ISIS from the media.
The media realized that they do have the power to influence elections, and get into the brains of the public.
And for them, that equals great power. The power of influence through hype, fear, and illogical associations.
In other words, scare the shit out of the people with hype of fear.
Then, sit back and see what happens in the voting booth.
People are brainless illogical schmucks, and the news media once again proved exactly that.

Who needs ISIS when we have Rush and Fox News?
ISIS may cut off heads, but the public just had their balls removed by the news media.
Ebola was bad timing for the president. I don't solely blame media. Still, they had a hand in the defeat of the Democrats.
 

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
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So how many pictures did Bush re-frame while he was in office?

I think the word you were looking for in refrained, surprising your browser spellchecker didn't show the error. Or then again it did but due to your southeastern Texas education you decided it was wrong.

Oops, sorry.

But you still figured out what I meant.

How many us citizens did bush order killed? 0

How many us citizens did obama order killed? Several, I lost count.
 

Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Oops, sorry.

But you still figured out what I meant.

How many us citizens did bush order killed? 0

How many us citizens did obama order killed? Several, I lost count.

You lose count before you get through your first set of fingers?
 

nageov3t

Lifer
Feb 18, 2004
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Republicans now have 2 years to prove they can govern... let's see how they do. :thumbsup:

if they can't, they're going to lose the Senate and the Presidency all over again in 2016.
 

Londo_Jowo

Lifer
Jan 31, 2010
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londojowo.hypermart.net
Oops, sorry.

But you still figured out what I meant.

How many us citizens did bush order killed? 0

How many us citizens did obama order killed? Several, I lost count.

How many of these US Citizens that were killed had aligned themselves with enemies of the US? As far as I'm concerned they were no longer US Citizens when they were killed as they had become an enemy of the US.
 

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
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How many of these US Citizens that were killed had aligned themselves with enemies of the US?

As far as I'm concerned they were no longer US Citizens when they were killed as they had become an enemy of the US.

Does not matter.

obama was sworn to uphold the constitution. One of our rights is due process.

Not like obama cares about laws and rights anyway. Thus one of the reasons why republicans won both houses.
 

brandonb

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Oct 17, 2006
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Once a person aligns themselves with the enemy due process goes out the window.

I align you with the enemy. Due process doesn't go out the window. I still have to provide this little thing called evidence. That is brought in front of a court. Sorry.... You're wrong here.
 

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
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Once a person aligns themselves with the enemy due process goes out the window.

Who is the enemy?

You do not have to answer that question, it should answer itself.

We simply can not be allowed to disregard protected rights such as due process and right to jury trial.
 

rudder

Lifer
Nov 9, 2000
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Imagine if the Republicans controlled the House, Senate, Presidency, and Supreme Court!

They are expected to take over the senate today. The only thing left is the presidency, and they can take this by making Obama look bad for the next two years. Maybe Jeb Bush or Ted Cruz as president?

That would be a nightmare scenario.

The republicans would legalize slavery, make women work for $1.45/hour, and send old people off to internment camps to die.
 
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