Both possibly valid points...he's either truly clueless to the event or he's just lying again. Either way, his typical level of external awareness to the situation.
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I wasn't aware they were armed, but I haven't been following that closely.
He's just pulling his normal "who me?" shit.
Both possibly valid points...he's either truly clueless to the event or he's just lying again. Either way, his typical level of external awareness to the situation.Then pay some fucking attention, your president just made the first ever attempted coup on this country. There are pictures every where. Obviously you don't even care enough about your country to know it came the closest it's been to ending since 1865.
Senators hear testimony and vote to convict or not.
there is also the option of impeaching him after leaving office so he can't run againThere must be consequences. Not sure impeachment can be done quickly, censure or the 25th Amendment. I like impeachment because if convicted he can never hold office again. Seems required given the recent events. So what if it happens after 1/20. Something must happen.
Hyperbole.
Why didn't law enforcement on the scene open fire on the crazed terrorist's?
Why wasn't there body's littering the street?
Why didn't the terrorist's open fire while storming the building?
What was the objective?
I used to have a Boy Scout troop that could have pulled off a better operation than this. No planning, no objective, no organization, just some dumb fuck dressed up like a gay Viking doing a photo op.
Nah, I know greenman on two different sites. While we may have different views on politics, he's never said anything that struck me as the least bit racist. Just because someone is a Trump supporter or Republican, doesn't automatically make them a racist.
Youse liberals need to give that shit a rest.
Hyperbole.
Why didn't law enforcement on the scene open fire on the crazed terrorist's?
Why wasn't there body's littering the street?
Why didn't the terrorist's open fire while storming the building?
What was the objective?
I used to have a Boy Scout troop that could have pulled off a better operation than this. No planning, no objective, no organization, just some dumb fuck dressed up like a gay Viking doing a photo op.
He supports his party as they tried, in vain, to throw out votes of large black populations with zero justification were the subtext was obviously a disenfranchisement of those black populations. Pushing the idea that Detroit's votes don't count is about as racist as it gets and Greenman is supportive of his party regardless.Nah, I know greenman on two different sites. While we may have different views on politics, he's never said anything that struck me as the least bit racist. Just because someone is a Trump supporter or Republican, doesn't automatically make them a racist.
Youse liberals need to give that shit a rest.
Ever since the racist southern democrats fled the party to take control of the Republican party in response to Civil Rights, and trapping the GOP into a platform of race-based disenfranchisement in public law and policy, throughout the country, for a generation up until current times, there really is no argument to be made that a GOP supporter isn't racist.
It's the central pillar of their platform. They use different terms now, they would call them "PC," but it is a platform or racism. Every single one of them hated Obama, not because of policy, because they don't have a single fucking argument couched in any kind of actual human reality about actual policy that they disagree with. It is all invented horseshit to cover the fact that they dislike his blackness. It was fucking instant the day he took office. The Teabaggers, these insurrectionists that came out of the woodworks to attack the idea that African Americans can gain a single foothold in this country.
It has never stopped, and until everyone recognizes this plain fucking truth, it will continue. If you support a single GOP policy, at any point, you are a fucking racist. It isn't any other way.
I agree, as a conservative voter when I was younger, Republican voters response to Obama was the push I needed to realize what was up. Bush getting us into endless wars was enough to show me how "fiscally" conservative R's, but the outright racism that blossomed 2009 and after was the last straw.
I'm going to go ahead and predict that won't happen.
Lets check back here in a couple of weeks and see how I did.Good luck with that prediction. His estranged niece who is a clinical psychologist disagrees with you. She's been correct in her predictions of trump's actions so far. If he is not removed soon we are looking at more chaos and division and violence and coup attempts. You really need to read this. It will help you understand what we are up against.
Mary Trump says her uncle is more desperate now and Americans should be 'both enraged and terrified'
"We can't put anything past Donald," the president's niece said. "He's desperate, he's terrified, he has absolutely no empathy, and he's a nihilist."www.businessinsider.com
Good luck with that prediction. His estranged niece who is a clinical psychologist disagrees with you. She's been correct in her predictions of trump's actions so far. If he is not removed soon we are looking at more chaos and division and violence and coup attempts. You really need to read this. It will help you understand what we are up against.
Mary Trump says her uncle is more desperate now and Americans should be 'both enraged and terrified'
"We can't put anything past Donald," the president's niece said. "He's desperate, he's terrified, he has absolutely no empathy, and he's a nihilist."www.businessinsider.com
Just because it was an inept attempt doesn’t mean it wasn’t an attempt.Hyperbole.
Why didn't law enforcement on the scene open fire on the crazed terrorist's?
Why wasn't there body's littering the street?
Why didn't the terrorist's open fire while storming the building?
What was the objective?
I used to have a Boy Scout troop that could have pulled off a better operation than this. No planning, no objective, no organization, just some dumb fuck dressed up like a gay Viking doing a photo op.
Hyperbole.
Because LE was complicit. This is starting to come out. More details will follow.Why didn't law enforcement on the scene open fire on the crazed terrorist's?
Because LE was complicit.Why wasn't there body's littering the street?
Because they knew there would be no resistance from LE. See above.Why didn't the terrorist's open fire while storming the building?
Some of the rioters planned to take dem legislators hostage. Why else would they have restraint cable ties?What was the objective?
Agreed. You have to take into account that these are trump patriots. They have low IQs so you can't expect too much.I used to have a Boy Scout troop that could have pulled off a better operation than this. No planning, no objective, no organization, just some dumb fuck dressed up like a gay Viking doing a photo op.
I think he will almost certainly be impeached but I agree the fact that by the time the articles are passed he will be out in a week will probably limit the motivation of Republican senators to act.It looks like you guys are talking past each other. I think we all (mostly) agree that Trump is a deranged wacko, that should have his power to do more damage removed ASAP.
But some think that with the remaining time, and the need for Republican support, that in practical reality, it won't be accomplished.
AFAIK, the House Voting to impeach (somewhat likely) is not enough to strip Trump of power.
That would require the Senate voting to convict him of impeachment, this seems MUCH less likely.
Remember, 'armed' doesn't only mean firearms. Many came with bats, clubs, pipes, chemical agents, etc. and other picked things up after they were there. I've seen it said the office was beaten with a fire extinguisher. Used that way is definitely a weapon or form of 'arms'.To reiterate, no, I wasn't aware that the mob was armed.
It looks like you guys are talking past each other. I think we all (mostly) agree that Trump is a deranged wacko, that should have his power to do more damage removed ASAP.
But some think that with the remaining time, and the need for Republican support, that in practical reality, it won't be accomplished.
AFAIK, the House Voting to impeach (somewhat likely) is not enough to strip Trump of power.
That would require the Senate voting to convict him of impeachment, this seems MUCH less likely.
Hope you beat this. Get better soon.
I believe he would have to resign. I don't know if it were the 25th used during Reagan's surgery but it details the same outcome, basically. Using it isn't necessarily a permanent change, but I doubt Trump would agree to it happening.Don’t know if this was brought up, but as an alternative “could” Trump rather than resign, or face the 25th amendment, or face impeachment, “could” Trump simply not resign but instead turn over the operations of the presidency to Mike Pence? Like when Reagan was in surgery, the vp assumed the presidency temporarily. Could something like that be an option? Then Trump could save face by not resigning while Mike Pence would be running the show and possibly giving the American people some sense of relief during these last few days.