Everyone say this will split the Republican vote but I think you underestimate the cult...they'll lose like 1-2% of their voting base.
Right, but this is my point. Instead of having to win by 5-7%, something that only happens about half the time, they could need to win by as little as 3%. That would mean democratic majorities a very large percentage of the time.Don't forget, Dems have to win by more than that to actually "win" in gerrymandedville.
Oh, the pitfalls of making sure you let everyone know who you really are. We will see if there will be the great walkaway.Right, but this is my point. Instead of having to win by 5-7%, something that only happens about half the time, they could need to win by as little as 3%. That would mean democratic majorities a very large percentage of the time.
I buy that as the reason, but I wonder about people like Rob Portman, who is not going to run in 2022. Or, for that matter, Mitch McConnell, who was just re-elected at age 78 and is probably on his last term. Why are neither going to vote for conviction?
People keep saying this but they are delusional, there is no scared Republican politician. Trump supporters and republicans are one in the same, there is no daylight between them. The sooner we understand this the sooner we can act appropriately.
Damn that would have been great to bring up, especially to call them all out by name12 current GQP senators voted to impeach or convict Clinton for lying about a blowjob
Blunt - voted to impeach
Burr - voted to impeach
Crapo - voting to impeach AND voted to convict
Grassley - voted to convict
Graham - voted to convict
Inhofe - voted to convict
McConnell - voted to convict
Moran - voted to impeach
Portman - voted to impeach
Shelby - voted to convict
Thune - voted to impeach
Wicker - voted to impeach
(22 years later and 6 are still senators, guess all that talk about not wanting career politicians just another GQP lie)
Damn that would have been great to bring up, especially to call them all out by name
Sad but true. I suppose the consolation prize is that Dems can just hammer this home in 2022That would have backfired. Team Trump would have used it as a distraction. The impeachment would have derailed into all about the Clintons.
Trump will get off. And when 2022 comes along democrats should do great at keeping and expanding the senate and the house, but that all hinges on people remembering January 6th, and we know how short termed American memory can be.
Working on the OJ defense.If there are REALLY, say ... 30+ Republican senators who want to be done with Trump and anything politically tied to him, they really need to just close their eyes, hold hands and jump off that cliff. Because Trump can only go hard and destroy so many people. Politically speaking, two years is a long time. They should abandon him because it's possible they haven’t realized yet what they should know by now, and what Mike Pence really should know by now, but probably doesn’t - There is no end!. If you do something to favor him, elevate his influence or anything amoral for Trump, you aren’t gaining or banking anything. He doesn’t “owe you one”. You are just a means to an end to him. The only reason to bend your soul for him is to prevent him from destroying you now.
But there will always be something else you need to do for him, there is no end. And he will betray you sooner than later. And it will keep getting worse and worse. It’s pathetic…Many Republican senators are being held hostage, and the whole world is watching. If you do what the blackmailer says, the blackmailer won’t go away; they’ll just raise the next payment.
But they seem poised to vote to acquit and sell those souls. They will go down in history for failing to convict impeachable offenses for all future generations to see.
Look at these so called .. "Jurors" - More like co-conspirators. Since when do jurors collaborate with the defense team? :
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
That's what they should have done to start with. Far higher chance of success and the same effective outcome than if he had been convicted in impeachment. It has the added bonus of taking a lot less time than a trial, which is eating up the Dem's time that could be spent legislating. If I were mitch, I'd be trying to drag and drag this trial on for as long as possible for that very reason. Biden still hasn't passed the stimulus checks, which he promised would be done in his first week. The people in Georgia are feeling betrayed and watching the Dems debate impeachment for a former president when they sorely need relief plays right into the Republicans' hands.So I just read that, assuming they don't get the 67 votes, which they will not, that the dems want to pass legislation barring Trump from office. I didn't understand until I read the 14th Amendment, section 3. Seriously, read it:
Holy crap, I had forgotten about that. It is arguably unconstitutional for Trump to even run for office again.
That's what they should have done to start with. Far higher chance of success and the same effective outcome than if he had been convicted in impeachment. It has the added bonus of taking a lot less time than a trial, which is eating up the Dem's time that could be spent legislating. If I were mitch, I'd be trying to drag and drag this trial on for as long as possible for that very reason. Biden still hasn't passed the stimulus checks, which he promised would be done in his first week. The people in Georgia are feeling betrayed and watching the Dems debate impeachment for a former president when they sorely need relief plays right into the Republicans' hands.
That's what they should have done to start with. Far higher chance of success and the same effective outcome than if he had been convicted in impeachment. It has the added bonus of taking a lot less time than a trial, which is eating up the Dem's time that could be spent legislating. If I were mitch, I'd be trying to drag and drag this trial on for as long as possible for that very reason. Biden still hasn't passed the stimulus checks, which he promised would be done in his first week. The people in Georgia are feeling betrayed and watching the Dems debate impeachment for a former president when they sorely need relief plays right into the Republicans' hands.
The simple fact that Trump watched this happen, didn't send help, and then sent that text saying "remember today" should have been enough for impeachment.
Lol Pence and family were never at risk. The SS would have defended him by killing the rioters.Now we are finding out that the VP's nuclear "football" was with him when they had to start fleeing from the insurrectionists. If they were delayed a few more minutes the insurrectionists could have killed him and his team and taken the football. They wouldn't know how to use it but they could have opened it up and shared classified information to anybody. Can you imagine that? I can.
The more stuff like this comes out the more I find myself getting angrier and thinking about how the LEOs that were not complicit in the insurrection should have started shooting the insurrectionists when they breached the building. Even though the LEOs were outnumbered it could have probably thwarted the mob.
Another reason why Trump The Traitor should be found guilty in the impeachment and charged with treason.