They'll just ignore the subpoenas. Remember, there are zero consequences for disobeying a congressional subpoena. That was another of Trump's lovely contributions to our political system.
Expect some of the known House GOP bitches to be brought in for questioning, too. I'm sure they can be subpoenaed, can't they?
Intimidation...right out of the mob boss's playbook.
That’s not true - Congress would refer them to federal law enforcement, who would presumably enforce them.They'll just ignore the subpoenas. Remember, there are zero consequences for disobeying a congressional subpoena. That was another of Trump's lovely contributions to our political system.
Seems to be there's a precedent somewhere that Senate Pres Pro Tem would preside when the subject of impeachment is no longer in office--Chief Justice only presides when it's a sitting President?Undecided. Thoughts?
Sen. Leahy to Preside Over Trump Impeachment Trial, a First in U.S. History
Normally, a Supreme Court justice would preside over the trial, but the Constitution never specified what happens when a former president faces trial in the Senate.www.newsweek.com
Well an outright majority of the country thinks that Trump should not only be impeached but convicted so the GOP has a lot of work to do on that front.Seems to be there's a precedent somewhere that Senate Pres Pro Tem would preside when the subject of impeachment is no longer in office--Chief Justice only presides when it's a sitting President?
That said, I think this will play into the hands of GOP who want to label this a useless political witch hunt vs. a real trial.
Last I heard 60% support conviction. So essentially democratic win margin + 5%. This means that Republican constituents are against it, and since Republican senators answer to their electorate there is no incentive for them to convict. I wish they'd do the right thing, but I've been wishing that for 4 years, my wishing well is empty. Nothing is going to change unless there is a drastic demographics shift enough offset inherent electoral advantage the Republican party enjoys at the moment.Well an outright majority of the country thinks that Trump should not only be impeached but convicted so the GOP has a lot of work to do on that front.
This could really play into the Democrats' hands very well - the GOP base demands fealty from GOP lawmakers to Trump, but Trump is an absolutely radioactive brand to the rest of the country. So, you have a situation where the GOP is going to be nominating a lot of people who are huge fans of someone the rest of the country hates. Seems bad for their electoral prospects.
There was a small chance immediately following the coup attempt when the memory of an angry mob coming to kill them was fresh enough I think Trump had a small chance of being convicted. That time has passed - I think you'll get a few more votes for conviction this time than last time but not a ton more. If there's even 5 Republicans who vote for conviction I'd be surprised.Last I heard 60% support conviction. So essentially democratic win margin + 5%. This means that Republican constituents are against it, and since Republican senators answer to their electorate there is no incentive for them to convict. I wish they'd do the right thing, but I've been wishing that for 4 years, my wishing well is empty. Nothing is going to change unless there is a drastic demographics shift enough offset inherent electoral advantage the Republican party enjoys at the moment.
Even now Trump is still most relevant force in politics. In my mind the only way out of this mess is for the republicans to all back a cohesive effort to make Trump irrelevant. That means vote to convict him on impeachment, stop defending him, and stop even mentioning his name. I believe Trumps followers would quickly turn elsewhere or forget about him if he was made irrelevant. It's not like the conservative voters would vote to remove every republican if they all voted together.
Of course there are a minority of the very radical that would continue to try and support Trump. And OAN and Fox etc. To that end he needs to be in jail. Wtf happened to all of the speculation that the POS would be going to jail? All of the things he has done and he is still walking around free? SDNY where are you? Let's get this piece of shit out of sight and out of mind pronto!
Last I heard 60% support conviction. So essentially democratic win margin + 5%. This means that Republican constituents are against it, and since Republican senators answer to their electorate there is no incentive for them to convict. I wish they'd do the right thing, but I've been wishing that for 4 years, my wishing well is empty. Nothing is going to change unless there is a drastic demographics shift enough offset inherent electoral advantage the Republican party enjoys at the moment.
LOL of course....
I still see a chance of conviction, even if it's not necessarily likely.
The GOP likely realizes that giving in to Trump's pressure and letting him run for office in 2024 also means the party is chained to him for the next four years, like it or not. If he stokes more violence or goes to prison, they have to pay for it. And remember, Trump just cost them the Presidency and the Senate in one go after losing the House in 2018 — does the party really want him motivating Democrat supporters to deny Republicans in 2022 and 2024?
There is the risk that Trump will take many voters with him if there's a Senate conviction, but there's also a chance he'll split with the GOP anyway. A Senate conviction would prevent that split (at least with Trump at the helm). And let's face it, many Trump supporters would vote for the Republicans anyway, despite protests to the contrary.
Hey Nikita, if a guy breaks into your house and kills a responding police officer, do you say the same thing ... 'Give the Man a Break' ?
Nikki Haley, Eyeing 2024, Defends Impeached Trump: 'Give the Man a Break'
The former UN ambassador told Fox News anchor Laura Ingraham that "what happened on January 6 was not great."www.newsweek.com