There are two schools of thought on this, in my opinion, the political ramifications for not doing it and the constitutional duty for doing it.
As has already been discussed, impeaching could cause a backlash, especially since its unlikely the senate would vote for impeachment as well. We already know how trump and Republicans would spin it and we know how terrible the Democrats are at messaging, so it would be a political loser.
However, if the president meets the threshold for bringing impeachment then it is the house's constitutional duty to impeach trump. If a president is unfit for office then it doesn't matter what the political cost might be. Doing nothing is an invitation to do worse and sets an awful precedent.
I think the dems should impeach and lay out their case for the American people, if Republicans want to put their party before country then let them hang themselves.
There are two schools of thought on this, in my opinion, the political ramifications for not doing it and the constitutional duty for doing it.
As has already been discussed, impeaching could cause a backlash, especially since its unlikely the senate would vote for impeachment as well. We already know how trump and Republicans would spin it and we know how terrible the Democrats are at messaging, so it would be a political loser.
However, if the president meets the threshold for bringing impeachment then it is the house's constitutional duty to impeach trump. If a president is unfit for office then it doesn't matter what the political cost might be. Doing nothing is an invitation to do worse and sets an awful precedent.
I think the dems should impeach and lay out their case for the American people, if Republicans want to put their party before country then let them hang themselves.
" I m not a crook"Neither was Nixon and yet articles of impeachment were drawn. The only reason it didn’t go forward was he resigned in disgrace. The reason he resigned was his own party telling him he was a corrupt piece of shit and he needed to go. That’s the missing piece in all of this.
We're not there yet. Congressional testimony by the people who wrote the report may well be utterly damning. I'm anxious to hear what they have to say outside the constraints imposed by the report framework. Mueller may well tell Congress he believes they have ample justification for impeachment, that a President can be held to a higher standard than technicalities of the Law. There are things that won't put a person in prison that make them totally unsuitable as President.
Sadly I think you’re right. At least right now there could be fracture in the GOP voter pool. Some willing to just sit it out. With the current congressional situation and complete unwillingness by the gop to do actual oversight I’m afraid impeachment will just solidify the GOP base, not just his base. I’m not sure he would win either way but he won’t be going down.
Before reading the report (('m about 3/4 the way through the obstruction volume, skipped the Russian volume for now) I would have agreed with this conventional wisdom. But now I agree with what Elizabeth Warren said yesterday-the facts are so overwhelming that an impeachment action must be brought and all our politicians must stand up and be counted. Odds are huge that the GOP Senators will vote it down on party lines but so be it.
To me the best course of action would be for the House to start impeachment proceedings but go slow, and have a different major public hearing every month outlining another aspect of Trump's corruption, strung out between now and the election. The point is to educate the voters and get them to actually vote this time around. Our voter turnout in the USA is shameful and pathetic.
Mueller already did that with this report. He laid out a path for Congress to impeach, if they thought it was necessary. Its not up to Mueller to decide whether or not trump should be impeached, that's Congress' job and I personally think there is ample reason to do so.
It's pointless, Republicans will sell their souls for someone on their "team". It would never pass the senate.
I just meant a possible criminal issue with our Prime Minister. The scandal is fairly intense for Canada. Plus people are passionate when it comes to politics. Me, I just want things to get sorted out and I won't take sides.If you're talking about Canada, you are massively misunderstanding whats going on here.
Waste of time. Trump will finish his term and start a second.
So you don't want to know the fullness of his crimes and corruption? You think it's better to... do nothing?This would be an extremely stupid move to try this, from a political standpoint. In the best case, the house votes to impeach. Then what? Still requires 2/3 senate to get the job done. This is a waste of time and not gonna happen. The next election will bring a new POTUS, if that's the will of the voters. Impeachment moves will just cost the dems the election and reelect Trump.
Impeachment isn't about removal from office. It's about the process of bringing all the corruption into the daylight and then letting the GOP vote to let this dipshit continue to hold the executive branch in his tiny hands.
Let it be recorded for history how they stood behind a political albatross.
Then the Republicans get the opportunity to nominate an impeached President for re-election.This would be an extremely stupid move to try this, from a political standpoint. In the best case, the house votes to impeach. Then what? Still requires 2/3 senate to get the job done. This is a waste of time and not gonna happen. The next election will bring a new POTUS, if that's the will of the voters. Impeachment moves will just cost the dems the election and reelect Trump.
I understand the arguments for impeachment. Nonetheless, I think it would more likely be a mistake than not. Yet if the dems decide to go that route, I'll get behind it. However, if it's going to happen, someone somewhere is going to have to convince one person: Nancy Pelosi. If Pelosi isn't on board, it's never going to happen. Making the entire discussion moot.
do you even know what impeachment is?Probably because he hasn't been charged or convicted in a court of law?
Dudes, I don't know how it works there. I assumed you need to be charged with something.
YES!! A sitting president can be prosecuted!!The POTUS is immune from prosecution while in office. What are you talking about?
If pelosi doesn't get on board I can almost guarantee it will be her last term. I say this as some one that likes pelosi and who recognizes her political skills.