Then why impeach him? Just to make a point?
I supplied you with the facts, it is you who is arguing from a position of feels.
Trumps polling numbers haven't changed and his overall approval rating is negative among independents and has been consistent.
Impeachment might be an option but remember that much of the electorate is misinformed and of low interest in details.
Look at it this way. The Attorney General has determined that not only was Trump innocent but a victim and I expect the people I am thinking of might see Trump as a tragic figure.
So jumping on impeachment which was supposedly based on what Mueller came up with was sabotaged by Barr.
Excuse me, but you did attack Pelosi, didn't you? It's naked concern trolling. In front running the report with attempts at exculpatory bullshit Barr & Trump have thrown down the gauntlet. Stand up for the Constitution & the rule of Law or cede the moral high ground. We simply can't afford to do the latter. We need to frame it in exactly those terms, as well. We need to impeach Trump because we have a moral obligation to the people.
The attempt has been made. That doesn't mean it will be successful. And, uhh, you kinda forgot to mention that whole obstruction of justice thing.
It has already been clearly made in several posts. Obviously you disagree, and that is your privilege, but the arguments have been clearly made already. (For instance, post 54.)Explain the argument against, please.
Most ran on healthcare as their main campaign, holding Trump accountable was a distant position to their main campaign.Not only that but in 2018 the dems specifically ran on holding the president accountable! Now they want to refuse to do the one duty which they are constitutionally obligated to do and not do it despite having the evidence on their side?
Smart! /s
There is nothing worth impeachment. None of his actions hindered the investigation, no evidence of collusion was found. He will stay in office, if the Democrats want to replace him they'll have to actually win an election, and so far they've proven impotent vs.t he Trump machine.
And yet Hillary was beaten and you blamed everyone else. Your facts curiously omit the concrete consequences of looking down on people that "feels". That's a Slow tactic.
There's plenty worth impeaching on, unfortunately Repubs in Congress have no spine or duty to country. They are cowards, afraid of Trump and his rabid base.There is nothing worth impeachment. None of his actions hindered the investigation, no evidence of collusion was found. He will stay in office, if the Democrats want to replace him they'll have to actually win an election, and so far they've proven impotent vs.t he Trump campaign machine, even with fake news and fake polls on their side. Trump took on the GOP, the Democrats, the media, and Hollywood and beat them all. No wonder the Democrats are so scared.
There's plenty worth impeaching on, unfortunately Repubs in Congress have no spine or duty to country. They are cowards, afraid of Trump and his rabid base.
Now you are just being dishonest. Come back when your feels are done flaring up.
If the impeachment process does nothing else, it would make the Republicans in Congress, especially the Senate, own tRump and his whole sordid family. They would be forced to defend their non-actions to control him and admit their own culpability.How will a failed impeachment process when it reaches Senate vote impact Democrats chances for 2020? I assume probably negatively.
Most ran on healthcare as their main campaign, holding Trump accountable was a distant position to their main campaign.
No thanks. My saying truths you dislike is not my concern.
Ahh I see. Pelosi is against impeachment and I agree with her at this point in time and yet I'm the troll because impeachment which she is against is a moral imperative. If you were consistent you would be attacking Pelosi, but your reserve virtually identical perspectives for not-Pelosi's.
We don't know what Pelosi's perspective is at this point. We won't really know until Congress reconvenes on the 29th. We'll most assuredly lose in 2020 should we decline the battle because "they're just as bad". Spineless Democrats. Blah-blah-blah.
How is letting Trump get away with felonies showing backbone?I disagree, I think by not impeaching in the senate they're showing backbone and not letting partisan whiners force out the legitimate winner of the election because the liberal everybody-gets-a-trophy generation can't cope with not getting their way.
We don't know what Pelosi's perspective is at this point. We won't really know until Congress reconvenes on the 29th. We'll most assuredly lose in 2020 should we decline the battle because "they're just as bad". Spineless Democrats. Blah-blah-blah.
We have no idea
You can't even frame the discussion properly
I recall the last moral crisis of needing to do right, the investigation of Cheney et. al. and understanding the Iraq War and giving justice as warranted. You stood solidly in Cheney's corner and excused Obama not calling for one because he was black.
Look Slow Jr. you had no spine then but spine now without a brain at the top is by definition mindless. Your loyalty to Democrats is not exceeded by many in Trump's camp. Circle the wagons at all costs. That's why you earned the title of "The Apologist". If you want to be a fool, who you support does not change the fact.
Right now the Dems will lose net political hay. If she yells Impeach! you'll attack any critics. If she does the opposite you'll do the same.
Impeachment, that is one which results in a positive depends on timing and the weight of overwhelming evidence that the Democrats will benefit outside people like you or me.
Now if that's too complex for your sensibilities then blame me for Hillary losing, again, or the swing states or those two stupid to accept your perspective. They need to come to you.
Yeah that worked out so well.
Fortunately the Dems did just about everything right as far as midterms. That is what should happen again and not playing Crusader Rabbit unless a lethal blow can be struck, and that from the perspective of "not you".
Now if Pelosi decides that there is enough gain to be had and impeach? Then she needs to take all this into consideration and she has a good quality for her position, being a cold calculating bitch. She can get almost all of the party behind her and I wish her the best. If she looks at the larger picture and decides to attack by different means then she'll still have done more than the last administration and congress with Iraq.
Spin.
Fortunately the Dems did just about everything right as far as midterms. That is what should happen again and not playing Crusader Rabbit unless a lethal blow can be struck, and that from the perspective of "not you".
Now if Pelosi decides that there is enough gain to be had and impeach? Then she needs to take all this into consideration and she has a good quality for her position, being a cold calculating bitch. She can get almost all of the party behind her and I wish her the best. If she looks at the larger picture and decides to attack by different means then she'll still have done more than the last administration and congress with Iraq.
Spin.
Gish galloping & mindless personal attack, huh? Cheney. Iraq. Obama. Hillary. Spineless Democrats. But don't stand up to Trump. Don't condemn him for all of History. Wouldn't be expedient.
We don't have to remove Trump from office to win this fracas. We can hobble his chances in 2020 & force the GOP to pay a steep price for their loyalty.
Dunno that Pelosi will see it that way but I won't attack her if she doesn't. What we'll see in the near future is counter spin from Dems & a whole lot of Congressional testimony that may well sink Trump entirely.
I do disagree. I think that Trump's base is unaffected by impeachment, because he already plays the victim constantly.It has already been clearly made in several posts. Obviously you disagree, and that is your privilege, but the arguments have been clearly made already. (For instance, post 54.)