Believe me, I wish it had, but I am pretty sure the report does not state that directly. If it does, please quote. Otherwise, it certainly cites a lot of misdeeds, but whether those are grounds for impeachment or directly related to trump seems open to interpretation.
Substantial evidence indicates that the President’s effort to have Sessions limit the scope of the Special Counsel’s investigation to future election interference was intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the President’s and his campaign’s conduct.
I think they, and even more so, the undecided/independents would be more motivated by a united party that presents an intelligent reasonably moderate candidate that addresses climate change (in a non-hysterical manner), jobs, infrastructure, affordable college and health care.
Except impeachment proceedings aren't limited in scope the way that Mueller was.
So... what?
If we've got something the public doesn't already know about, then that might change things. So far, everything we would impeach him on is well known to the public, including the election law violations involving Cohen and the porn star.
The report does not state that directly because at the beginning Mueller states that regardless of the evidence compiled he would not make such a statement. Even if he had it would be ‘open to interpretation’ as only a jury can find someone guilty and that’s impossible here. What Mueller did was identical in scope to what the prosecutor did in Watergate. Hell, even the crimes and the circumstances are nearly identical.
To quote the report:
That is black letter felony obstruction of justice.
The ongoing investigation of Trump is not pointless. The sooner he's forced from office & the more Republicans who are dragged along with him, the better. There's more evidence to be had & we should gather all of it.
So... What does that have to do with my post?
I've been railing for years against Republicans using issues purely for political purposes and to get people to the polls. The Republicans whined and complained about key issues and yet they never even attempted to address any of their top issues in any meaningful or serious way and now we have some Democrats looking to do the very same thing with needless and endless investigations until the 2020 election.
If Democrats want to cement their hypocrisy and prove correct the "both sides" bitches then be my guest but I'll have no part of it.
Just cant help yourself using Hillary of an example of a moderate losing can you? Hillary lost because they split the party and screwed over Bernie, alienating a lot of voters (just like the dems are doing again this year), because she had a lot of baggage (Benghazi, the e-mails), because she campaigned poorly, and simply and probably most importantly, people just did not like her.2016 appears to disagree with you as you just described Hillary Clinton to a T.
Just cant help yourself using Hillary of an example of a moderate losing can you? Hillary lost because they split the party and screwed over Bernie, alienating a lot of voters (just like the dems are doing again this year), because she had a lot of baggage (Benghazi, the e-mails), because she campaigned poorly, and simply and probably most importantly, people just did not like her.
I strongly suspect a look into his finances will show plenty of new things to impeach him on.
We have a similar type scandal going on here with our Prime Minister. We have an election coming this fall so things will sort themselves out, I guess.
I just meant a possible criminal issue with our Prime Minister. The scandal is fairly intense for Canada. Plus people are passionate when it comes to politics. Me, I just want things to get sorted out and I won't take sides.
Just cant help yourself using Hillary of an example of a moderate losing can you? Hillary lost because they split the party and screwed over Bernie, alienating a lot of voters (just like the dems are doing again this year), because she had a lot of baggage (Benghazi, the e-mails), because she campaigned poorly, and simply and probably most importantly, people just did not like her.
We went moderate with Bill and got NAFTA and repeal of Glass-Steagall. Then conservatives and independents like you hung that around Bill's neck like they were liberal policy. We went moderate again with Obama and Republicans decided to go full retard and defined conservatism as "rabidly against anything Democrats propose" to the point that they often attacked issues from contradictory angles because conservatives do not care about facts or logic. The only consistency they have is liberals are a scourge that must be stopped no matter how many rules they have to break to do so.I think they, and even more so, the undecided/independents would be more motivated by a united party that presents an intelligent reasonably moderate candidate that addresses climate change (in a non-hysterical manner), jobs, infrastructure, affordable college and health care.
You sound like a mirror image of Donald.We went moderate with Bill and got NAFTA and repeal of Glass-Steagall. Then conservatives and independents like you hung that around Bill's neck like they were liberal policy. We went moderate again with Obama and Republicans decided to go full retard and defined conservatism as "rabidly against anything Democrats propose" to the point that they often attacked issues from contradictory angles because conservatives do not care about facts or logic. The only consistency they have is liberals are a scourge that must be stopped no matter how many rules they have to break to do so.
In short, get the fuck out of here with your plea for moderation. It was too late for moderation back when America elected Dubya. It was too late for progressivism before Americans even considered electing a crappy reality TV personality. We are fucked and nothing we do at this point can stop it, thanks to shitheads like you no less. Enjoy the ride Dorothy. Try to suppress the urge to spit on liberals as the world burns because we want them to burn along with it.
Oh and by the way, the DNC didn't screw Bernie out of anything. Americans chose Hillary over Bernie. That is the way the system works. Yes it was a mistake to have the superdelegates get behind Hillary before the race even started, and the DNC has corrected that problem for 2020, but they would have switched to Bernie if he had beaten Hillary at the polls. She didn't even need them.
A very reasoned and intelligent post.The Republican Senate is not going to vote to remove him based on the Mueller report. Dems do not have the goods on Trump so far as Republicans are concerned. Republicans see nothing wrong with lying, obstructing, and bullying. Pelosi is not on board (at this time). Of COURSE Trump should be removed from office, and the fact that he won’t be is a terrifying statement about the crisis of our democracy. But it’s still a fact, and ignoring facts is for Republicans. Impeachment makes sense in one and only one circumstance: if twenty GOP Senators start to fear they will lose their seats if they vote to protect Donald Trump. How to make that happen is unknown.
Another disadvantage of running an impeachment process, is that it is time limited, and may inevitably end with a victory of Trump. Since it makes no sense to impeach the president in October 2020, the hearing will have to be wrapped up long before then and after it inevitably fails to remove Trump from office, it will be really hard for the Dems to justify yet more investigations. So by the time the election rolls around they will be old news with the only thing people remembering is that it failed in the end. Far better to just continue the slow trickle of investigation and sandal coming bit by bit throughout the next 18 months. With the Democratic leadership indicating their desire to leave it up the wisdom of the American people rather than usurping that authority for themselves. A bigger stage for Democrats, having tried and failed to bring down Trump, to be labeled Losers and Partisan Hacks Obsessed With Losing 2016 and Wasters of Taxpayer Money for a Baseless Attack on a President They Hate.
Keep hammering away at him with Congressional investigations, and force the Republicans to cast votes on strongly worded resolutions of censure. The House will hold hearings every week for eighteen months. They can go far beyond the narrow impeachment process. This is far superior a route for getting the truth out to the public. It's not the case that the one and only way to express Democratic opposition to corruption, is to impeach. It's possible to talk realpolitik to voters. For example, 'There is no parallel in our history for the corruption of this President. He is protected from being removed from office by an equally-corrupt Republican majority in the Senate. I am going to change this situation by means of these policies:[list and explain common-sense policies that will fight against corruption]. We MUST hear from Mueller. The appropriate members of Congress MUST see the entire un-redacted Report and the underlying materials. These things must happen in short order. After Congress has the full Report, I would like to see them proceed with an investigation into the question of whether William Barr violated his oath of office, with the lies before Congress and the American people that he is on record as having perpetrated. Then proceed, step by step, as part of the business of a Democratic House that is generating bills that will make lives better and trying to get those bills and programs the maximum of publicity.
But unless one of those investigations turns up some huge smoking gun, it would look like political showmanship in our highly partisan politics to go through the motions of an impeachment proceeding when the outcome is predetermined. The Republicans will NOT remove Trump through impeachment. the Senate will never convict. He won't be convicted and it will end up being Bill Clinton 1999 all over again. What I'd like to see is Democrats introduce a resolution to censure Trump. It has no binding authority, but I'd like to know if there's any Republican with balls say, "Mr. President, you did some bad things". His fucking head will explode.
I'm of the opinion that we should do whatever minimizes the chance of Donald fucking Trump being in office at 12:01pm 1/20/21. The House will be holding hearings on Trump every week from now until next November. All the information that even the most avid partisan (or swayable undecided) could ever want will come out. It just won't be called impeachment.
I understand that this opinion is not popular to some here and I get it. We just disagree on the best way to get this con man out of office.
So really it seems like nominating a moderate isn’t particularly important, haha.
Why? Did my post contain more lies than there were words?You sound like a mirror image of Donald.
"Poor Bernie! So cheated!" & "You guys need to nominate a moderate!" are contradictory. It's a subtle form of trolling.
It’s a nice corollary to ‘The DNC intervention caused Bernie to lose the election he lost by 3,500,000 votes. Also, Russian intervention had no effect on Trump’s victory by 78,000 votes.’
Probably because he hasn't been charged or convicted in a court of law?
Are we? Elites have been above the law for a long time. This didn't start with Trump and it won't end with Trump. Were you asking that when Clinton deleted 30,000 emails, or when Comey obstructed her prosecution for actual crimes? Have you asked those questions when servers were wiped, even though people were told to preserve evidence? It works both ways, at least it should. There should be the same standard for everyone. There isn't.