Impressive thermo electric(peltier) air cooler out. The Titan Amanda

markymoo

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This is something special and not some ordinary cooler like the rest. Its a huge cooler with a peltier attached combined with heatpipes. even comes with a pci card to keep it in check. Given that fact it will beat all other air coolers period. Some impressive claims it only rises 10c on 100% overclock and keeps under 40c on load. The thing is huge,weighs a kilo. It uses 60watts of power and it cost around 100$. If you can afford it this is the one to get. Oh and it quiet too.

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markymoo

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i am interested in anything that cools my cpu cooler further without switching to water. I'm running at 51º

how can you be unimpressed its quality
 

LittleNemoNES

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Looks cool but seems like it works best in certain types of setups. I like extreme air cooling. Wish Anand would review these things more often.
 

Baked

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$100 and it can't even beat out a conventional top of the line 120mm HSF. Pass.
 

Avalon

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Originally posted by: Baked
$100 and it can't even beat out a conventional top of the line 120mm HSF. Pass.

Where are you getting that from?
The Vanessa L-Type that it was compared against generally performs within a degree or two of the XP90c cooler, and the Amanda completely obliterates the L-Type. I don't know of any air cooling that puts the XP90c to shame. Beats it, yes, but not badly.
 

markymoo

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Lifer im sure you said that to wind everybody up. you know its not true. how can heatpipes beat peltier tec and heatpipes lol
 

Parasitic

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People have been using peltier plates for oc...nothing new.
Although it's quite a novel concept, but still if the heat isnt affecting the stability of the system I'd say its fairly pointless to drop that much dough on cooling.
 

markymoo

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Yes peltier suffer from condensation problems and problems in past but this is encouraging. The hotter the cpu gets the more efficient it cools.

Pointless? Overclock is what its about as this thread states
 

DrMrLordX

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What Parasitic means is that many HSFs on the market already provide sufficient cooling for overclocking. Unless heat is a major issue for your overclocked CPU, this unit doesn't really seem to have any purpose.
 

LittleNemoNES

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I think you guys are missing the point here. It's not easy to cool a highly OCed Processor and if something comes up that can reduce it 10C more than everyone else, well, that can be a great tool to OCers.
 

Polish3d

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This thing looks cool to me, would have been very handy with my old 4400+ which hated to be above 38c when overclocked. I might get it, with a new mobo (although I like this DS-3) I can take my conroe perhaps to 4ghz with that bad boy
 

Bobthelost

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How does a 60W pelt cool a 150W chip, not to mention how does it do that while keeping the heatsink merely warm? I smell bullshit here.
 

JAG87

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It does cool it, because the pelt is not cooling the CPU on contact, but its dropping the temperature of the copper surface. On the other hand the aluminum dissipator must get hot as hell once the pelt kicks in (imagine pelt heat + cpu heat from the heatpipes) which raises the ambient temperature of the chassis quite a bit, raising NB and VGA temps.

:thumbsdown: from me
 

TheRyuu

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I'm sure a TT BT would come really close in performance to that thing and probably cost a lot less too.

Also, my Water Cooling setup does a better job of cooling then that thing. If an air peltier can't cool better then good old water, it aint worth it.
 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: Technonut
Is this currently for sale anywhere?


I saw it on newegg, its the only place I've seen so far.

EDIT: Wrong! It's not there, I thought I saw it....thats what I get for thinking
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: Bobthelost
How does a 60W pelt cool a 150W chip, not to mention how does it do that while keeping the heatsink merely warm? I smell bullshit here.
It couldn't cool it very well, since it's TRC is worse than a Scythe Ninja, at least according to the company's website (the first link, in the OP).
 

pm

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Where does the heat go when it's installed in a case? I can see the airflow diagram at Titan's website (air goes in one side and out the other... fair enough...) but when I go to the review site, I don't see where the air is going.

http://www.tweak3d.net/reviews/Titan/Amanda/Images/Installed1Large.JPG

Which side is the input and which is the output? If it's right to left, which is what I would expect, then where does the hot air go on the left side? In that location, there's the I/O connectors and up above it a 90mm fan. The TEC is adding 60W (peak) to the case.... where does this heat go?

It's a slick design and the spec's and the test looks nice. The ~1500rpm fan spin rate is a good touch too... very quiet.

But I've been burned (both literally and figuratively) by TEC's in the past... the condensation problem was not (for me anyway) anywhere near as hard a problem to solve as the problems with removing all of the extra heat without making lots of noise. I created a PWM thermostat for one of my larger TEC experiments that held the CPU at a fixed temperature well above the dew point but then was stuck trying to remove the extra heat. It worked great with the case cover off but with the case on, I would watch the case temperature creep up.
 

myocardia

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pm, on any heatsink with two fans, you can make the air flow in either direction you choose.
 

pm

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Originally posted by: myocardia
pm, on any heatsink with two fans, you can make the air flow in either direction you choose.

That makes sense. I'm still not sure of the system for getting rid of the extra 60W (peak) waste heat though. It would nice, if a thermal system is adding waste heat - to provide some way (ducts, for example) to get rid of the extra heat.
 

markymoo

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the tec is low but thats just part of the cooling the aluminium fins and copper cool it too. lets say the tec dies you still have great cooling due to the heatpipes.

the idea is to blow both 120mm fans the same way blowing across the hs and then the other fans blows it further to an exhaust such as the case exhaust or the psu exhaust

its just like have a scythe ninja in your case. big size. if you can deal with that and its maintenance free and cools your temps better wheres the problem.

if you use it with Coollaboratory Liquid Pro to knock the temp down further then....

my noctual and 2x120mm fans cost me the same price as the titan

if i wanted decent watercooling it cost me 400$ the titan will suffice for 100$

Originally posted by: Technonut
Is this currently for sale anywhere?
im in uk
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Titan.html

noctua nh-u12 with 2x120mm fans will beat big typhoon and ultra 120
 

Madellga

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I used a Peltier element back on the P3 500 days. Could o/c to 750, which was good at that time.

One thing is that if the CPU cooler fan fails, you can fry it quickly. The other thing is water condensation, I had after 2 years some "corrosion" under the P3 and it started to be less reliable. I cleaned it and gave up the peltier.

I would use a peltier again on the C2D platform. I don't want to handle the water cooling issues and my case can take out the heat produced by the peltier.
 

markymoo

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i have my fans connected to a fan controller that sounds an alarm if the fans go under a low speed or stop. the titan pci card has an alarm.

its not meant to be be better than the best water kits. but it beats some water kits.its a effective air cooler with a low pelt which is better than air alone.

the results speak for themselves

for people who just got an air cooler then the expense is great and not worth it but for people who looking to replace there old hsf then its appealing and for those who running there cpus its at 55-60c (which make cpu slower not faster as the heat slows it) its ideal

another review here
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