in 1913 you kept your entire paycheck

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OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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Example written in crayon:

You now gross $500,000 for your job.
Your net pay after all federal taxes is $300,000.
This means you do your job in order to acquire $300,000.
All federal taxes go away.
You now do your job for $500,000.
Other people that can do your job were happy to do it for $300,000.
Your company hires one of them to do your job for $300,000.
Your company sends you packing.
You now wonder why other companies laugh at you when you demand $500,000 when they ask you your desired salary.

again in crayon, wtf does taxes and free market value of a job have to do with my OP? all i said was wouldn't it be wild to get your pay stub and all taxes were gone. damn don't make this any harder than it is.
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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The other way to look at it is that your employer is willing to pay $500k to get the job done as are other employers. How that cost is apportioned makes no difference to that bottom line cost to get the employee. If taxes go away, a company could save some money on labor expenses as long as other employers are determined to follow the same path. As long as there are competitors that are still willing to pay $500k, competitive pressure will keep total employment costs the same.

Or it would free up some money to buy shiny new robots.
 

TwiceOver

Lifer
Dec 20, 2002
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most of the population keeps their entire check now. They just get the remainder back to them in the form of a rebate at the end of the year and then bitch about how much they pay in taxes.
 

Crono

Lifer
Aug 8, 2001
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Zero taxes would be nice, so long as you didn't have to deal with more and larger tariffs, duties, fines or having to bribe corrupt officials to get things done, either.
I have no idea whether it was better or worse then in that regard.
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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again in crayon, wtf does taxes and free market value of a job have to do with my OP? all i said was wouldn't it be wild to get your pay stub and all taxes were gone. damn don't make this any harder than it is.
The point is that you soon would be back to the same take home pay you are used to now.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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The point is that you soon would be back to the same take home pay you are used to now.


Dont you understand he doesnt care!? He cares about the ideology of not having taxes or social security or roads or medicare or a military.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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The point is that you soon would be back to the same take home pay you are used to now.

so taxes means higher wages, sweet what would my pay be if i was taxed at 75% maybe i could buy a brand new BMW 1200RT to replace my current one.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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so taxes means higher wages, sweet what would my pay be if i was taxed at 75% maybe i could buy a brand new BMW 1200RT to replace my current one.


Its like if someone told you olive oil is good for you so you then drank 6 gallons and wondered why you weren't more healthy.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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Its like if someone told you olive oil is good for you so you then drank 6 gallons and wondered why you weren't more healthy.

i knew the commie pinkos in here would be saying taxes are good for you. just thought it would take a bit longer for the trolls to shamble in.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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i knew the commie pinkos in here would be saying taxes are good for you. just thought it would take a bit longer for the trolls to shamble in.


omg. Lets kill the 1950's propaganda!

How old are you that commie pinko is even a insult?
 

Subyman

Moderator <br> VC&G Forum
Mar 18, 2005
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Pretty easy guys. Run a small business related to your hobby. Expense everything. American dream.
 
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