In Illinois, American Nazi Leader and Holocaust Denier Likely To Win GOP Congressional Primary

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pcgeek11

Lifer
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From the article linked:

Jones will almost certainly be defeated in November. That’s because the 3rd Congressional District is one of the most heavily Democratic in the state.

The district sweeps in the old Chicago Democratic machine wards of 11, 13, 14, 19 and 23 and meanders through a corridor to wide swathes of southwest suburban turf. The district was drawn to protect Lipinski, whose father, William — a former congressman — is close to House Speaker Mike Madigan, D-Chicago, who is also the chairman of the Democratic Party of Illinois.

How did this happen?

Republicans didn’t bother to muster a credible candidate because the district is so Democratic. There is always a debate if parties should recruit candidates to run races they are highly likely to lose.


I agree the guy is roach, but why bother with the odds so heavy against any republican. Time and resources are better spent elsewhere.
 
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dank69

Lifer
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From the article linked:

Jones will almost certainly be defeated in November. That’s because the 3rd Congressional District is one of the most heavily Democratic in the state.

The district sweeps in the old Chicago Democratic machine wards of 11, 13, 14, 19 and 23 and meanders through a corridor to wide swathes of southwest suburban turf. The district was drawn to protect Lipinski, whose father, William — a former congressman — is close to House Speaker Mike Madigan, D-Chicago, who is also the chairman of the Democratic Party of Illinois.

How did this happen?

Republicans didn’t bother to muster a credible candidate because the district is so Democratic. There is always a debate if parties should recruit candidates to run races they are highly likely to lose.


I agree the guy is roach, but why bother with the odds so heavy against any republican. Time and resources are better spent elsewhere.
Plus we wouldn't want to send the message out that our party is staunchly against white supremacism. We need those votes in other, more important contests.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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Plus we wouldn't want to send the message out that our party is staunchly against white supremacism. We need those votes in other, more important contests.


Well I didn't see where the GOP is endorsing or backing him as a candidate either. If you have a link to support your supposition that they are please share.
 

cytg111

Lifer
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I agree the guy is roach, but why bother with the odds so heavy against any republican. Time and resources are better spent elsewhere.

I am sorry but thats friggin ignorant.
Time and resources are better spent elsewhere?
On top of the Alabama pedo this is a PR nightmare.
You might not win this one but that doesnt mean there is not degrees of loosing. 404 Brains not found.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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I am sorry but thats friggin ignorant.
Time and resources are better spent elsewhere?
On top of the Alabama pedo this is a PR nightmare.
You might not win this one but that doesnt mean there is not degrees of loosing. 404 Brains not found.


See my post above. Do you have any info that says the GOP is backing him?

You could call yourself a Republican and run if you wanted to. That doesn't mean that you are supported.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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See my post above. Do you have any info that says the GOP is backing him?

You could call yourself a Republican and run if you wanted to. That doesn't mean that you are supported.

See my post above.
So if you are a republican you STOP SOMETHING LIKE THIS from happening. That is if you dont want to loose votes ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
Sry, CAPS seems intermittent stuck somehow...
But its OK .. I like my conservatives stupid .
 

mikeymikec

Lifer
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To be fair, it's an uncontested primary (no chance of a Republican win in that district is the reason for that I suspect) and he's not getting any support from the state party:

"Tim Schneider, chairman of the Illinois Republican Party, said in a statement to the Sun-Times, “The Illinois Republican Party and our country have no place for Nazis like Arthur Jones. We strongly oppose his racist views and his candidacy for any public office, including the 3rd Congressional District.”

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/h...n-3rd-congressional-district-lipinski-newman/

Can someone explain some to me about American politics please? If the Republican party rejects a candidate, how can he run as a Republican candidate?
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Can someone explain some to me about American politics please? If the Republican party rejects a candidate, how can he run as a Republican candidate?
I believe he acquired enough signatures to be on the ballot, and just chooses what party affiliation.
 
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pcgeek11

Lifer
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From the article: https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/h...n-3rd-congressional-district-lipinski-newman/

Last time he tried he had invalid petitions and the GOP had him removed from the ballet.

By 2018, Jones took his petitions door to door himself and took greater care to have valid signatures.

An official with the Illinois Republican Party said Fogarty was directed to determine if Jones could be thrown off the 2018 ballot.

Fogarty examined Jones’ petitions Dec. 5 and Dec. 8. This time around, Jones’ signatures appeared valid, so the Illinois GOP did not pursue legal action. Neither did anyone else.

Jerry Hurckes, the treasurer for the Lipinski campaign, looked at the petitions on Dec. 4, the records show.

Tim Mapes, Madigan’s government chief of staff and executive director of the state Democratic party, viewed Jones petitions on Dec. 6.

If he has his paperwork properly completed he can run as any party he wants. I doubt any party would claim / back him.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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See my post above.
So if you are a republican you STOP SOMETHING LIKE THIS from happening. That is if you dont want to loose votes ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
Sry, CAPS seems intermittent stuck somehow...
But its OK .. I like my conservatives stupid .

You can't just "stop" it. You have to have legal grounds to do it.
 

cytg111

Lifer
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You can't just "stop" it. You have to have legal grounds to do it.
You run another candidate, any candidate, not nazi not pedo.
The alternative of doing nothing just shows the people that you are done pretending to care.. like at all. Which is nice in its own way, true colors and all that. You have Trump now, no need to hide anymore.
 
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BonzaiDuck

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Lets be honest here. We have all at some point thought. The jews are responsible for <insert negative outcome here>. Recently the engine in my car basically exploded and the first thing I thought was the jews are responsible for my car engine exploding. In my mind I pictured some guy with a big hook nose sneaking into my garage in the middle of the night and sabotaging my cars engine.

Turns out that my thinking was paranoid because it was the water pump that failed. With ZERO jewish involvement.
How do you know that your cooling system wasn't filled with Kosher antifreeze?
 
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mikeymikec

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I believe he acquired enough signatures to be on the ballot, and just chooses what party affiliation.

So you could choose to be say a Republican even if the entire Republican party says "we want nothing to do with this guy" and literally has nothing to do with you except to reject everything you stand for and provide zero support in any way?
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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So you could choose to be say a Republican even if the entire Republican party says "we want nothing to do with this guy" and literally has nothing to do with you except to reject everything you stand for and provide zero support in any way?

That's indeed my understanding. Free country and all, just follow the process. I'm sure someone more knowledgeable than me can clear it up if I'm wrong.
 

Paratus

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From TFA: "To Jones’ own amazement, he is the only one on the Republican ballot."

If he were a communist, a democrat, a shoe, a turtle, or cancer, he would still be "likely to win the GOP congressional primary". DUE TO THE FACT THAT HE IS THE ONLY CANDIDATE.

OP asks if this is the new normal for the GOP. I think OP either didn't read the article (unlikely given that he actually quotes it) or is intentionally telling a fib to make the other team look really bad. I would be embarrassed to post an article like this with a conclusion like this. Are you embarrassed OP?

The problem with your point is the GOP is currently associated with Nazis, racists, and incompetence.

Allowing this guy to run unopposed further damages the GOP brand by continuing that association with racists and Nazis. While I understand your point that the GOP may not be Nazis, it’s still incompetence that allowed him on the ballot as a republican.

I will however throw you a BothSidesDoIt (TM) bone. It’s only been recently that the Dems realized they have to run candidates in all races or bad things happen. That’s a fact the GOP apparently still needs to learn.
 
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K1052

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Allowing this guy to run unopposed further damages the GOP brand by continuing that association with racists and Nazis. While I understand your point that the GOP may not be Nazis, it’s still incompetence that allowed him on the ballot as a republican.

This. The challenger in the Republican primary for governor is a problem as well since she's deployed ugly Trump like divisiveness to undercut the incumbent R governor.

The GOP here is busy putting itself in concrete shoes and hailing a cab towards the river.
 

VRAMdemon

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Sucks that he's even made it to the ballot. The proper response is for the R party to find a better candidate and defeat this guy in the primary. It appears they've been unable to do that. And you can force the RNC to denounce him, thereby wasting their time and potentially offending some of the most, um, marginal republican voters. Sadly, there are parts of this country where that guy might be the front runner.
 

Exterous

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Jun 20, 2006
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Sucks that he's even made it to the ballot. The proper response is for the R party to find a better candidate and defeat this guy in the primary. It appears they've been unable to do that.

You have to have your submission to run in by a deadline right? I wonder if the Republicans didn't know\didn't think he would be able to be on the ballot until it was too late to get someone to oppose him?
 

zinfamous

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Seems like we need a new "VFP" badge that can be awarded to individuals that clearly deserve it. A badge of ....dubious honor, sure, but in the near future would probably be a prerequisite for gaining an audience with Hair Fuhrer, or simply entering the WH (since the admin, in their wisdom of bold transparency, has disallowed the logging of all visitors).

This candidate is a clear honorary VFP.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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They have free speech and can denounce him publicly. I wonder why they don't do that though?
They did, but only the people that read the entire article would know that. It also doesn't fit the OP's agenda nor the accepted liberal rhetoric. It's called a lie of omission.
 
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IronWing

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What history will remember…

Arthur Jones, Republican congressional candidate from the state of Illinois
 

Stokely

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Considering he can't win, maybe there's some silver linings. See just who comes out to his rallies, like the worms that appear when you turn over a rock. Make the establishment GOP answer questions about him over and over.
 
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