In Illinois, American Nazi Leader and Holocaust Denier Likely To Win GOP Congressional Primary

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Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
20,657
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Considering he can't win, maybe there's some silver linings. See just who comes out to his rallies, like the worms that appear when you turn over a rock. Make the establishment GOP answer questions about him over and over.
The establishment GOP denounced him, that's the only answer they need to give for any question about him.
 
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Amused

Elite Member
Apr 14, 2001
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From TFA: "To Jones’ own amazement, he is the only one on the Republican ballot."

If he were a communist, a democrat, a shoe, a turtle, or cancer, he would still be "likely to win the GOP congressional primary". DUE TO THE FACT THAT HE IS THE ONLY CANDIDATE.

OP asks if this is the new normal for the GOP. I think OP either didn't read the article (unlikely given that he actually quotes it) or is intentionally telling a fib to make the other team look really bad. I would be embarrassed to post an article like this with a conclusion like this. Are you embarrassed OP?

Why would I be embarrassed?

My comment was a question. Not a conclusion. I know. Punctuation is hard to understand but it changes the meaning of entire sentences.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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Considering he can't win, maybe there's some silver linings. See just who comes out to his rallies, like the worms that appear when you turn over a rock. Make the establishment GOP answer questions about him over and over.
And get them all on cams.. Yes I like your thinking, we will start a register.. Like the one Trump campaigned on just in reverse.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
110,820
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The establishment GOP denounced him, that's the only answer they need to give for any question about him.

Shouldn't there be, I dunno, some way that a major party can authorize any candidate to run on their party ticket? I think this needs to start happening for both parties, lest we end up with nothing but crazies that each party is forced to disavow but accept them. It's nonsense.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Shouldn't there be, I dunno, some way that a major party can authorize any candidate to run on their party ticket? I think this needs to start happening for both parties, lest we end up with nothing but crazies that each party is forced to disavow but accept them. It's nonsense.

It seems to be a much bigger issue for the GOP.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
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Let's see how many vote for him. That will be interesting. If he takes even 20% of the total vote, we'll have to assume that have the repubs in this district voted for him.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
26,717
25,052
136
Let's see how many vote for him. That will be interesting. If he takes even 20% of the total vote, we'll have to assume that have the repubs in this district voted for him.

Yeah, we should keep track of this one. See how much support an actual Nazi has when running under the GOP ticket.
 

fleshconsumed

Diamond Member
Feb 21, 2002
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Let's see how many vote for him. That will be interesting. If he takes even 20% of the total vote, we'll have to assume that have the repubs in this district voted for him.
Yeah, we should keep track of this one. See how much support an actual Nazi has when running under the GOP ticket.
My guess would be prepare to be disappointed. Roy Moore got almost 50% of the vote. So did Trump. I'm betting he'll get more than 20% vote even if the district demographics does not favor him.
 

preCRT

Platinum Member
Apr 12, 2000
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The GOP did not get another candidate on their ballot to run against him, because they do not give a f*ck. By not condemning him, they are condoning him and his place on the GOP ballot. They OWN this travesty.
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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The GOP did not get another candidate on their ballot to run against him, because they do not give a f*ck. By not condemning him, they are condoning him and his place on the GOP ballot. They OWN this travesty.
Just a little wink to the Nazis that hey, we’re with you.
 
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dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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Let's see how many vote for him. That will be interesting. If he takes even 20% of the total vote, we'll have to assume that have the repubs in this district voted for him.
It will be difficult to discern how many voters actually know he is a Nazi vs how many just vote straight R ticket.
 

urvile

Golden Member
Aug 3, 2017
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They did, but only the people that read the entire article would know that. It also doesn't fit the OP's agenda nor the accepted liberal rhetoric. It's called a lie of omission.

Yeah they did and they should. I don't think it would be fair to say that mainstream conservatives are anything like arthur. He is a fringe dwelling wack job. Unfortunately though people have the impression that guys like arthur also represent the republican party. It seems he has that impression to.

The jews, the jews, the jews are COMING! With their hook noses, beady eyes, insatiable lust for murdering the christian messiah and yarmulkes with a dollar sign on them. They should swap out arthur for mel gibson. Give the campaign some star power.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
62,365
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It will be difficult to discern how many voters actually know he is a Nazi vs how many just vote straight R ticket.

It's a sad thing either way. Maybe the Illinois GOP can find a way to keep him off the ballot.
 

rommelrommel

Diamond Member
Dec 7, 2002
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They did, but only the people that read the entire article would know that. It also doesn't fit the OP's agenda nor the accepted liberal rhetoric. It's called a lie of omission.

Frankly, he is a fucking Nazi and denouncing him isn’t good enough. That is quite literally the least they could do to stand against this.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
16,189
14,102
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It will be difficult to discern how many voters actually know he is a Nazi vs how many just vote straight R ticket.

Lots of publicity in this guy. And we can assume his D opponent will run at least one ad exposing him.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
20,657
5,346
136
Yeah they did and they should. I don't think it would be fair to say that mainstream conservatives are anything like arthur. He is a fringe dwelling wack job. Unfortunately though people have the impression that guys like arthur also represent the republican party. It seems he has that impression to.

The jews, the jews, the jews are COMING! With their hook noses, beady eyes, insatiable lust for murdering the christian messiah and yarmulkes with a dollar sign on them. They should swap out arthur for mel gibson. Give the campaign some star power.
He's no more a republican than antifa is democrat. The problem is that people like to present story's like this and pretend they represent rank and file members of whichever party is being portrayed. Anyone with a room temperature IQ knows it's not so, but it makes for good theater.
 
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rommelrommel

Diamond Member
Dec 7, 2002
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The democratic candidate will handle that. An even better idea would be for them to donate to the democrats campaign fund. That would be a slap in the face.

How can you possibly be so blind? “Yeah well, we aren’t going to win so who cares if a self-professed Nazi is representing our party or not?”

Hint: the answer is that every decent person cares. If you are alright with a Nazi repressing your party because he won’t win, you are not a decent person. If your party is too lazy to run someone against a Nazi to keep him off the ballot they are not a decent party.

Even from a practical sense how can this be acceptable? Do you think anyone on the fence regarding other races is going to be more or less likely to vote republican after they do as little as possible in the face of an actual Nazi? Not exhausting every legal option leaves me concluding that republicans, or at least the ones in that district, don’t find Nazis all that objectionable.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
20,657
5,346
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How can you possibly be so blind? “Yeah well, we aren’t going to win so who cares if a self-professed Nazi is representing our party or not?”

Hint: the answer is that every decent person cares. If you are alright with a Nazi repressing your party because he won’t win, you are not a decent person. If your party is too lazy to run someone against a Nazi to keep him off the ballot they are not a decent party.

Even from a practical sense how can this be acceptable? Do you think anyone on the fence regarding other races is going to be more or less likely to vote republican after they do as little as possible in the face of an actual Nazi? Not exhausting every legal option leaves me concluding that republicans, or at least the ones in that district, don’t find Nazis all that objectionable.
I don't believe the RNC can simply oust him. So he runs no matter what. The obvious thing for them to do is denounce the guy, which they did.
It's not about being blind or partisan, it's simply being realistic. If there is some legal means they can use to get the fellow off the GOP ticket, they should pursue that. Throwing money out the window to run a candidate who can't win is a waste. They should give that money to the DNC candidate, that would make a statement without wasting a ton of cash.
As to weather or not it's "acceptable" for a Nazi to run, the legal answer is yes, yes it is. While we both find it reprehensible, it's not against the law. It's perfectly legal to hate anyone or any group you so choose, the law only requires that you tolerate them, not like them.

Honestly, the guy is a clown. He doesn't have a chance of winning, it's a publicity stunt. He'll get his face on the TV and get to rant out his message and offend lots of people. The mistake is giving him a platform, putting his face on the news and allowing him air time to spew his ignorance. That's what he wants, and that's what he'll get. He wins by us thinking he matters. He doesn't.
 
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