In Los Angeles, $775k gets you this much house.

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Ricochet

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If you don't buy now, you'll never be able to afford it, dude. Time to leverage yourself up, 100% of assets into housing, HOUSING NEVER GOES DOWN!!!!!

I like your thinking. I like bubbles.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
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That's way too far from the beach.

lower barrier to entry - ever since silicon valley discovered SoCal, housing prices along the beachfront towns (aka Silicon Beach) have gotten crazy.

800k median price vs > 1 million median price
 

dighn

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Aug 12, 2001
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Yup, and chinese capital is never going to stop flowing into west coast real estate!

new paradigm! this time is different.

nobody here gets it (vancouver), hence this insanity. sucks if you are genuinely just looking to buy a place to live in.
 
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It's probs a bad idea to buy a house anywhere on the west coast, right now. The chinese economy is on the verge of a pretty big fall, and capital flight from china has been a big driver of crazy real estate prices on the pacific coast.

People have been saying this or something similar about West Coast property for at least 3 decades.
 

pcgeek11

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California. And they wonder why the rest of the country makes fun of them...

Where else do you buy a crack house for 775K.

LOL
 

Mai72

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A cardboard box house will cost you next to nothing. Heavy winds, rain and the cold might be an issue though.

 

SearchMaster

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Jun 6, 2002
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People have been saying this or something similar about West Coast property for at least 3 decades.

True, and the market has crashed a few times in that period but it has always recovered. I understand the appeal of living in SF/LA/SD, they're beautiful cities with tons of activities and great weather, but the thought of being house poor for 15-30 years just makes me cringe. I paid less than $200K (albeit two decades ago) for my 3000sf, 1.5ac lakefront property and after refinancing when rates started getting so low, it will be paid off in less than two years (just in time to start paying for kids' college - joy!).
 

purbeast0

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True, and the market has crashed a few times in that period but it has always recovered. I understand the appeal of living in SF/LA/SD, they're beautiful cities with tons of activities and great weather, but the thought of being house poor for 15-30 years just makes me cringe. I paid less than $200K (albeit two decades ago) for my 3000sf, 1.5ac lakefront property and after refinancing when rates started getting so low, it will be paid off in less than two years (just in time to start paying for kids' college - joy!).

many people who can afford expensive houses aren't house poor.

what you paid for your house is because it's in a location where nobody really wants to live and there probably aren't many jobs. that is nothing new and has always been that way. trying to compare prices across different regions is just dumb.
 

vi edit

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many people who can afford expensive houses aren't house poor.

what you paid for your house is because it's in a location where nobody really wants to live and there probably aren't many jobs. that is nothing new and has always been that way. trying to compare prices across different regions is just dumb.

I don't necessarily agree. Certain markets are a flash fire of income that isn't necessarily native to that area. Phoenix was one of those markets back in the early/mid 2000's. Houses went from modest prices to more than double in just years as people fled from higher housing cost states like California or came in as speculative investors and dumped piles of cash hoping to ride the market high. Housing costs exploded beyond what local incomes would support.

California is now seeing that happen as foreign investors come in and dump money into housing as basically "offshore investment accounts" and drive up pricing. It's not pricing within the market and it's being manipulated by outside factors. It's nearly impossible to move there from a lower cost of living place since you likely do not have the cash equity in your home to offset the cost of a house there and it's very hard for locals to buy since the salaries have not kept up with the housing prices.
 

SearchMaster

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many people who can afford expensive houses aren't house poor.

what you paid for your house is because it's in a location where nobody really wants to live and there probably aren't many jobs. that is nothing new and has always been that way. trying to compare prices across different regions is just dumb.

Some aren't house poor, but many are. If you're spending half your income on housing, you're probably house poor even if your income is higher than other parts of the country. It's damn near impossible for a 10%-er to have a nice house in a nice area on a single income. If you're making $150K/yr, a third goes to taxes and 40-50% of the remaining goes to the bank? No thanks.

And of course comparing across regions is dumb, that wasn't the point. People do want to live here, that's why the value of my house has almost quadrupled in those 20 years, but it's certainly not the market of SoCal. Frankly I wouldn't buy my house at what it's worth now but I have no incentive to move and that's really how I feel about the SoCal housing market.
 

purbeast0

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Some aren't house poor, but many are. If you're spending half your income on housing, you're probably house poor even if your income is higher than other parts of the country. It's damn near impossible for a 10%-er to have a nice house in a nice area on a single income. If you're making $150K/yr, a third goes to taxes and 40-50% of the remaining goes to the bank? No thanks.

And of course comparing across regions is dumb, that wasn't the point. People do want to live here, that's why the value of my house has almost quadrupled in those 20 years, but it's certainly not the market of SoCal. Frankly I wouldn't buy my house at what it's worth now but I have no incentive to move and that's really how I feel about the SoCal housing market.

lol from your link.

According to Zillow’s July Real Estate Market Reports, households earning less than $60,000 are spending half their income on keeping a roof over their head, just as housing prices are expected to rise nearly 6 percent into 2015.

i just chalk that up to dumb people, but they exist everywhere. if you're making $60k household, you probably shouldn't be living in LA, SD, or SF.
 

SearchMaster

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lol from your link.



i just chalk that up to dumb people, but they exist everywhere. if you're making $60k household, you probably shouldn't be living in LA, SD, or SF.

You convinced me bro. Buying the house in the OP for 3/4 of a million bucks is a brilliant financial move and most Americans should consider moving to LA to live that American dream.
 
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