IndyColtsFan you seem to have some kind of vendetta against RGIII and the skins. RGIII is is good. He reminds me of a Joe Montana when he rolls out of the pocket and passes. He is an accurate passer but he needs to be mobile. His injury is not helping.
The skins problem is the horrible defense. Until they fix that they are not going to the playoffs.
IndyColtsFan you seem to have some kind of vendetta against RGIII and the skins. RGIII is is good. He reminds me of a Joe Montana when he rolls out of the pocket and passes. He is an accurate passer but he needs to be mobile. His injury is not helping.
The skins problem is the horrible defense. Until they fix that they are not going to the playoffs.
Many teams won't send in a QB hobbling around and couldn't move. RG3 will be fine next year. I'm not even an RG3 fan but declaring the Rams the winner so early is pure idiotic.
Trades aren't necessarily zero sum, you can have win/win or lose/lose trades also. At this point, the Rams are indisputably winners with the trade bounty they received. Depending on how the draft goes this year, they may wind up being *huge* winners from the trade. The 'Skins may wind up being winners too, depending on the future career of RG3. Indeed it's even possible that they could be huge winners too, although currently it's looking like borderline beneficial for WAS rather than complete bust or complete win.
Shouldn't you judge trades by wins or playoffs? The Redskins have made the playoffs with Griffin. How about the Rams? They've finished below .500 2 seasons in a row since the trade. How did they win exactly?
For all we know, the Rams picks could all turn out to be busts and they stay .500 forever while Griffin gets healthy and becomes the game changing QB that he's shown he could be.
My point is that it's WAY too early to judge the winner of this trade. Give it 3-4 more years.
Shouldn't you judge trades by wins or playoffs? The Redskins have made the playoffs with Griffin. How about the Rams? They've finished below .500 2 seasons in a row since the trade. How did they win exactly?
For all we know, the Rams picks could all turn out to be busts and they stay .500 forever while Griffin gets healthy and becomes the game changing QB that he's shown he could be.
My point is that it's WAY too early to judge the winner of this trade. Give it 3-4 more years.
The Rams play in the toughest division in football. The Redskins only made the playoffs last year due to a relatively weak schedule and a super weak division. Let's get that out of the way first.
Secondly, Griffin's health has been used as an excuse all year. The fact of the matter is that he passed required physicals and was cleared to play. He had more than enough leg strength to sit in the pocket and pass, yet he still put up mediocre stats. What's that? You're blaming Washington's offensive line? Their defense for falling behind early and putting Griffin into pass-only situations where the opponents' defense could tee off on him? Want to take a guess at how those things could be fixed?
If you said "use multiple draft picks to pick players to fill the gaps," you're correct. Now you see what we're saying. You can accuse us of "giving the Rams the win" in the trade too early all you want, but you're giving Griffin way too much credit now as well after a single good season.
Bottom line is, the Redskins have had more success since the trade than the Rams and it's still too early to declare a winner. Blatantly declaring a winner now unmistakably naive.
Nuff said.
It's like somehow thinking that the Colts were the clear winners for deciding to be the dumpster that hosts Trent Richardson--a pretty much proven disappointment at the time of the trade--and giving up some serious picks for it.
I mean, imagine fans trying to convince themselves at any point that this was ever a good idea. That would be nuts! :whiste:
Imagine trying to argue that this is not yet proven who won out in that deal.
Imagine arguing that the Colts are so much smarter in the draft, when their entire history of "smart drafting" involves employing the very simple strategy of sucking horse shit for an entire season at the most opportune times to draft #1--TWICE!--when arguably the best 2 out of 3 QB prospects ever are suddenly available.
BRILLIANT! THEY ARE SO SMART!
One year better, one year worse. Seems close to even to me.
KT
One year better, one year worse. Seems close to even to me.
KT
Fail. I'd say 3 out of 3 -- you forgot Elway.
We can probably tie the RG3 situation directly to the firing of Shanahan, which is a really big positive this year. Record be damned.
Then, Snyder will have an epiphany: he will trade his rights to the Redskins for Joe Gibb's Nascar team (dude always had a fondness for turning left), Gibbs will take over as rightful owner and pay a shitload of money to lure Gruden away from ESPN, who will then hire his own coaches and work closely with Gibbs to select a proper GM.
HUGE WIN!
LoL--I was thinking Elway as the other prospect, obviously, but didn't realize that Baltimore drafted him. You guys blow.
I think it's more likely that they just hire RG2 to the staff.
KT