I think the redskins should get tebow and vick, or another running qb as backups to RG3. Bringing in tebow for 10 or so plays would add an extra wrinkle to the offense and give RG3 reps off.
The knee injury was minor - he went out for a couple of plays, then went back in for a few more plays.After a concussion and a knee injury his first season I would say the odds are 50-50 that he is still effective by the end of five years.
Though this is the Skins were talking about. They will probably sign him to multiyear contract a week before he blows out a knee.
Aren't some of the Skins best D-linemen out all this year too? They should cream their division next year if everyone can stay healthy.
While it is true that an option technically is not a "designed QB run play," I don't believe I ever actually used those words (if I did, I misspoke and was wrong) -- I said the plays were "designed run plays" in which RG3 happens to be the runner a high percentage of the time (meaning, of course, that an option allows him to give to a back, which he also does on occasion). IIRC, there were a few run plays Sunday night when RG3 took the snap and ran right around the corner in a non-option formation -- THAT would be a "designed QB run play." An option is just a formation where the QB is one possible runner. And those times when he throws the ball to the back, it is probably even worse -- many times a QB will try to make a block and that is a prime opportunity for a defender to kill your QB.
It's sad when fans like those of the Washington Redskins are basically planning for multiple Super Bowl wins when they make the playoffs for the first time in years. Its like the Jets fans who were sure they were in for a decade of dominance a few years back.
Heck, the Skins 10 win season doesn't always guarantee the playoffs. In the AFC west they would have finished in 3rd place. The Giants played a far tougher schedule as the Super Bowl champs and they only beat them by a game.
The Skins don't have a first round pick coming up in 2013 and 2014. Plus they have a ton of money tied up in RG3 so they can't do a lot in the free agent market.
Hey, Skins fans enjoy the ride. But you're delusional if you think the Skins are well placed to make the playoffs the next few years.
His contract was a four year, $21.12 million fully guaranteed with a signing bonus.
That is extremely cheap to what other previously drafted QBs got. Sam Bradford got a $50 million dollar signing bonus alone. That is going to hurt the Rams.
Luck, RG3 and Tannehill are cheap. All three of them are about 83% (rough guess) Bradford's signing bonus.
and how much does Russell Wilson cost the Seahawks?
Oh, and lets not forget how expensive Alfred Morris is....added to the fact that if RG3 does lose a head out there, Kurt Cousins looks more than competent to take over.
This proves you could have not watched more than one beloved patriot game. High percentage my ass. Most of the time its gives inside. The reason you think its such a high percentage is because he's smart enough to know when to pull (defensive end sucked in) and run which tends to be fairly successful.
To answer your number 6. It matters because it shows you who has the intelligence to make the right choice. Luck may have lowered his interception rate late in the season but his passing yards a game took a hit. The last 4 games he 'only' threw 2 interceptions but managed to pass the 200 yard passing mark once (205yrds) for a total of 778. RGIII threw 1 interception and had 703 passing yards in his final 4 games of the season. Luck needs passing yards to be successful, RGIII with his speed doesn't. Just because his speed is an option doesn't make him a "running QB". What it does make him is a more versatile threat than Andrew will ever dream about being. That being said both will succeed in the NFL and I wouldn't be surprised to see them both in Canton 20yrs from now.
and how much does Russell Wilson cost the Seahawks?
Oh, and lets not forget how expensive Alfred Morris is....added to the fact that if RG3 does lose a head out there, Kurt Cousins looks more than competent to take over.
This proves you could have not watched more than one beloved patriot game. High percentage my ass. Most of the time its gives inside. The reason you think its such a high percentage is because he's smart enough to know when to pull (defensive end sucked in) and run which tends to be fairly successful.
To answer your number 6. It matters because it shows you who has the intelligence to make the right choice. Luck may have lowered his interception rate late in the season but his passing yards a game took a hit. The last 4 games he 'only' threw 2 interceptions but managed to pass the 200 yard passing mark once (205yrds) for a total of 778. RGIII threw 1 interception and had 703 passing yards in his final 4 games of the season. Luck needs passing yards to be successful, RGIII with his speed doesn't. Just because his speed is an option doesn't make him a "running QB". What it does make him is a more versatile threat than Andrew will ever dream about being. That being said both will succeed in the NFL and I wouldn't be surprised to see them both in Canton 20yrs from now.
Again, this.
You completely missed the point but I am not surprised. In fact, you helped make my point. Why does Luck "need" passing yards? Because he has no other options!! He doesn't have a 1600 yard rusher behind him. Also, you missed the scheme differences. RG3 plays in a much simpler offense compared to Luck and more is asked of Luck. Just about everyone agrees the Colts offense is far more complicated and more is asked of Luck, but Redskins fans are (once again) in denial. Let me guess - you also blame RG3's awful game against the Cowboys on his knee?
RG3 had 120 run attempts. Far too many. You guys who insist the "vast majority" we're due to pocket collapses are full of crap. He is a "running" style of QB and that has been shown statistically. You can deny it all you want, but you're wrong unless you also want to remove Cunningham and Vick from that category.
Please prove that the "huge majority" of his runs (your words, not mine) were due to pocket collapses.
Christ almighty... you are just clueless. I don't understand why it is so difficult for you to understand that Washington has a far more complex offense than Indianapolis. The main option Luck has is to throw... that's it. RG3 has way more options and reads the defense well enough to figure out what to do in order to get the ball up the field.
At this point, I think you'll never concede to the fact that you've been wrong the whole time because you've already argued your case way too much.
Go back and watch more than just one game. Point proven.
I can't wait for Belichek to play the Skins. He will do to RG3 what he did to Tebow.
Too bad it won't happen for awhile.
Unless of course the Skins make it to the Super Bowl
"He just has to throw the ball." Let me add that to a list of eitsisms for further laughs. Good Lord learn some football and offensive strategy.
Again, read what the pundits are saying. All of them agree with me that the Colts offense is far more complex. "Just throw the ball." ROFL! You don't have a freaking clue about a passing offense, do you? The Colts offense has always been one of the most complex offenses in football and Luck doesn't have the "option" to hand off to a 1,600 yard rusher either. Good Lord. You have no idea what makes an offense complex, do you? Just because RG3 gets to hand off while Luck doesn't have a good running option doesn't make the Colts offense "less complex."
You've already been laughed at by several posters for such gems as:
1. MVP is a tossup between RG3 and AP.
2. Everyone knows the Skins are worse than the Colts.
3. RG3 had a bad game against the Cowboys because of his knee.
and now:
4. Luck just has to throw. RG3 has a more complex offense because he has to run or throw! (LOL!!!!)
Seriously, just stop. You're making a fool out of yourself especially since you also said the Colts had "more weapons" on offense which would therefore give Luck "more options." You clearly don't have any idea about NFL offenses and love to ignore your 1600 yard rusher and the contributions of Cousins. I suppose if the Colts add a 1,600 yard rusher that their offense is now automatically more "complex" since Luck has to "decide" whether to throw or run. The only proponents of RG3 here (and I'm not really an opponent of his, as has been mentioned) that have the slightest clue is darkswordsman and DrPizza.
I can't imagine the excuses which will flow if the Redskins lose to the Seahawks. I'm sure "The Seahawks outplayed us" won't be one of them.
Translation: you can't. As DrPizza said about your assertion when I mentioned that you said the "huge majority" were due to pocket collapses: "He's just wrong."
Here's some recent press documenting the horrible Redskins offensive line:
1. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...kins-offensive-line-not-getting-enough-credit
2. http://articles.washingtonpost.com/...ert-griffin-iii-tyler-polumbus-trent-williams
3. http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2012/...ffensive-line-makes-the-offensive-machine-go/
4. http://www.csnwashington.com/footba...s/talk/redskins-offensive-line-holding-steady (from midseason)
5. http://www.redskins.com/news-and-ev...Clincher/b0d17fb4-c019-425d-a2e5-1f1b5e2010a1
6. Redskins fans discussing how great the o-line has played: http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/50437-redskins-offensive-line-2012-unsung-heroes.html
Midseason rankings -- guess who is in the top half of the league and guess who isn't? Comically enough, they rank the Redskins o-line better at pass blocking (#12) than run blocking (#23).
Apparently, you don't read past the first line and enjoy taking things out of context.
1. Read the reasons why. RG3 holds more value than Peyton Manning. Sorry, but it's true. I don't even understand how Peyton Manning's name is in the hat for MVP.
2. The Redskins don't have as many good individual players than the Colts. That is what I meant by that statement.
3. RG3 had a bad game passing and wasn't too accurate, which is very uncharacteristic of him. The only difference is the knee injury that hasn't fully healed and you add tension to that ligament when you torque your knee as you throw. Biomechanically, it makes perfect sense. I wouldn't expect you to understand that, because you don't have a job that deals with biomechanics.
4. I don't see why it's a big deal to you that I said Luck's main option is to throw. It's not like the Colts have a running back good enough to rely on. It's not like Luck is good at creating something out of nothing. Look at how many pass attempts he has each game. The team's main offensive option is to throw.
"But now what some of these teams have done, and Kyle Shanahan one of the architects of this one, they've created a way for a mobile quarterback -- I don't want to say a running quarterback because this guy's a pure thrower, there's no doubt that Robert Griffin is a throwing quarterback -- but the added element of his speed has taken defenses and spun them on their ear."
-Cris Colinsworth (Redskins Cowboys game 12/30/12)