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zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
Originally posted by: swbsam

But they gotta pay for it!

Sorry, just kidding of course!

Here's the thing - I'm all for people falling in love based on personalities but here's the kicker.

The positives of dating a fatty, even if you're superficial:
1. I've seen it many times - fatty girls in relationships get real happy like, and get un-fatty, often turning into knock outs...


2. You're building your inter-personal skills, even if things don't work out. Not only do you lose your virginity, FINALLY, but you learn how to talk to women.

3. You become a person who gives other people a chance, and that's good for your soul!

4. Fattys are loyal


p.s. I'm a fatty too, so I can say this shit

Agree with everything except point one which is flat out lie. =)

yeah, that's true. but you can often guilt them into it if you try hard enough
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: ryan256
This is something I've been trying to tell guys for a long time. Quit looking at porn for what a perfect woman should look like. Of the entire female population .1% have the porn star bod. Meaning you have to be one of the smartest, richest, and sexiest guys to even have a chance. Most people I know would consider this girl to be plain and unattractive. I disagree.
I noticed in reading this whack job's journal that hes mainly mentioning hot nubile 20 somethings that he's masturbating over. YOU ARE OVER 40!! There's your first F'n problem right there! Look for women in your age range and you'll have much better luck! Hell I know women that age that all they want is an occasional good bang. They aren't interested in a relationship. Isn't that every mans dream? Or supposed to be?

I'd hit that~
she's attractive

+1
 

Locut0s

Lifer
Nov 28, 2001
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Yeah because everyone knows being the 40 year old virgin inevitably leads one to mass murdering people. :roll:
 

JD50

Lifer
Sep 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Well, in my experience, ugly women ban be bitches too, and then what have you got?

A bitchy, ugly gf or wife.

FML

haha, win.
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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wasn't he just screwed in the head? My wife said he was actually good looking. He was rejected because he's a freak in the head.
 

vi edit

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Oct 28, 1999
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Originally posted by: rh71
wasn't he just screwed in the head? My wife said he was actually good looking. He was rejected because he's a freak in the head.

He put the pussy on a pedistal.

Reading bits of his journal he sounds like a number of IT guys I know that are just socially retarded and desperately wanting some sort of intimacy with the female of the species. It's just something that slowly eats away at you and twists your thoughts from dissapointment to full on resentment and rage.

He just ignored that internal mechanism that says "don't gun down a room of random people".
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: rh71
wasn't he just screwed in the head? My wife said he was actually good looking. He was rejected because he's a freak in the head.
He put the pussy on a pedistal.

Reading bits of his journal he sounds like a number of IT guys I know that are just socially retarded and desperately wanting some sort of intimacy with the female of the species. It's just something that slowly eats away at you and twists your thoughts from dissapointment to full on resentment and rage.

He just ignored that internal mechanism that says "don't gun down a room of random people".
I dont have any internal voices telling me that.
So, like, in that case, could I do it and then not feel guilty?
 

swbsam

Platinum Member
Dec 29, 2007
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Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: rh71
wasn't he just screwed in the head? My wife said he was actually good looking. He was rejected because he's a freak in the head.
He put the pussy on a pedistal.

Reading bits of his journal he sounds like a number of IT guys I know that are just socially retarded and desperately wanting some sort of intimacy with the female of the species. It's just something that slowly eats away at you and twists your thoughts from dissapointment to full on resentment and rage.

He just ignored that internal mechanism that says "don't gun down a room of random people".
I dont have any internal voices telling me that.
So, like, in that case, could I do it and then not feel guilty?

No, no, no - you need to kill yourself! If you're psychotic enough to consider killing innocent people because, boo-hoo, you're lonely.. You need to put a gun to the back of your throat and pull the trigger. And I'm no macho Middle-American - I'm a commie, liberal, New Yorker who thinks that suicide is the braver option if you're ever driven to consider mass-murder.
 

Trente

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I understand very well OP's point, and I fear the day that I'll have to agree with him. The problem is, you can't go out with someone who isn't attractive, for the sake of both sides. Just a month ago I could have had sex with a random chick; but she had to touch it to get me erect. This isn't the way it should be, and so I turned it down. On the other hand, a hot chick I used to date gave me a boner from just kissing her... It is in our nature to have sex with the most attractive girls we can get, as they are the most fertile, evolution wise.
 

swbsam

Platinum Member
Dec 29, 2007
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Originally posted by: Trente
I understand very well OP's point, and I fear the day that I'll have to agree with him. The problem is, you can't go out with someone who isn't attractive, for the sake of both sides. Just a month ago I could have had sex with a random chick; but she had to touch it to get me erect. This isn't the way it should be, and so I turned it down. On the other hand, a hot chick I used to date gave me a boner from just kissing her... It is in our nature to have sex with the most attractive girls we can get, as they are the most fertile, evolution wise.

I understand your point and, in an ideal world, I would say that you have a point. If you're already getting some and enjoying what you're getting, then by all means continue what you're doing! But if you're lonely, long for human contact, and just want to ..release.. a temporary reduction of standards is a good idea.

We must dispel the myth that once you bump uglies you'll always bump ugly! Take what you can now and then earn those high standards.

Think of it in this horrifying way. Say you're one of those guys who's waiting for his perfect ten. You wait, and wait, and eventually you meet your pretty-damn-ok 8.. YOU'LL HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO WITH HER. Practice, practice, practice- and enjoy the practice

I personally don't rate people, and have dated across race/looks/body shape and length, but I understand you guys. You want the first time to be amazing, something out of a late night Cinemax movie. The reality is that its going to be awkward anyways!
 

fleshconsumed

Diamond Member
Feb 21, 2002
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Lowering standards? Lowering them to what? ryan256 photo for example, that girl is a solid 8. She is not one of the uglies and she is in shape. I'd go out with her any day of the week and feel good about it.

The saddest thing is, as Insomniator has said, most of the girls would be very beautiful if they were not overweight. That extra 50-100 pounds can dramatically change the way the person looks. Even the OP's wife, looking at her picture I bet she is overweight to some degree. However, she does have really cute face and those eyes... If she got in shape, I would also bet she would look stunningly beautiful.

That's the crux of the issue IMO. In my experience, it is extremely rare that you see unattractive in shape girl. Unless they have some sort of disfigurment such as bad teeth or extremely large forehead, they all look good to me. They may range on a scale, but they are all at least 7+. However, as soon as they start gaining weight, they all automatically go below 5. It's just not fun dating a fatty.

Now, I'm not a hunk of athletic guy here, but I have been getting in shape for the last year. I've started running again, I've slimmed down to the point where I think it's about time to start bulking up, I bike 30-40 miles on Fridays. The more I do it, the more I realize I like it. I want to be in shape so that I can feel great and do awesome stuff. And at the same time I realized that I've simply became incompatible with fatties because they are simply not into the same things as I am. It's simply a different lifestyle. Whereas I would go biking, a fatty would rather stay at home, watch some sitcom and munch on chips. I went indoor rock climbing yesterday for the first time and I loved it, I'll definitely be coming back for more. However, as I was there for about 2 hours, I only noticed 4 overweight people, and 3 of those were parents who were taking their kids climbing. What does this tell me? It tells me fatties do not like doing athletic stuff, they do not like rock climbing, they do not like hiking, they do not like biking, they do not like playing sports. In a way it's logical, because if they did like all those things, they wouldn't be overweight in the first place. But the point is it's not just looks, it's also lifestyle.

So what's the point of me saying this? I guess I don't really understand the OP, or maybe what he says doesn't apply to me. In my opinion almost every in shape girl is dateable, so there is really no lowering standard possible here. If I lowered them, I'd be dating fatties, but to be honest, I'd rather stay single than date one of them because I know we are going to be incompatible.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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so your wife is a frumpy girl who eats too much? i'm sure she's glad to have you...
 

swbsam

Platinum Member
Dec 29, 2007
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Originally posted by: pontifex
so your wife is a frumpy girl who eats too much? i'm sure she's glad to have you...

I never said that - I said meant to say that I had to date around quite a bit to find happiness, and that having unrealistic standards limits you in an unfair way.
 
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