Originally posted by: tm37
Originally posted by: chambersc
Originally posted by: Soviet
Whats it stand for nowadays? Do they yell thing like "long live the confederacy!!"? Does everyone hate them? Anyone do the same thing with the union flag?
to me, it's resoundingly pro-racism because it advocated the CSA mentality of slavery. i will despise that symbol with every fiber of my being.
It is Sad that you are so unaware of what happened in our past and you make judgements of false hood.
I am Not in anyway advocating slavery BUT if you think that it was the main cause of the civil war or southern rebelion then you are an idiot.
Also if you think that the abolishionists were in the majority in the north then you are misinformed.
Again look at my post above I will Even qoute it for you.
The thing that makes me cringe is that the majority of people think that slavery was the DRIVING FORCE behind the civil war. Also people think the the north were a mojority of abolishonists.
Fact -> Slavery ended in the north not because they were MORE ENLIGHTENED but because it was NO LONGER ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE.
Fact -> Lincoln did not run on an abolishionist platfrom he ran on Colonist platform that stated AS THEY WERE FREED slaves should be sent back to africa.
Fact -> Virigina had a LEGAL RIGHT TO CEED the union as they added a provision to the radification of the Constitution.
I believe that it is important for people to understand the history behind the flag before they start making assumtions on what the flag should or should not mean,
The southern states tried to LEAVE THE UNION (legally according to many constitutional scholars) due to the spending policies that lincoln wanted to emplimnet that were to be funded with taxes on argicultural as well as placing HIGH TARIFFS on manfactured goods imported therefore keeping the cost of manufactured good high.
The end of slavery was PUNISHMENT and nothing more.
The importation of slaves have stopped well before the civil watr and slavery was becoming less economiacally feasible. With out the civil war many believe that slavery would have been gone in 50 years tops.
Yes the southern states have not been the most racially sesitive however you need to look at both sides before you pass judgement. Many southerners took out their anger (wrongfully so) on blacks due to the 40 acres and a mule promise made by northern polititians. And because that was an illegal order the blacks then took it out on the southern white because they did not get what they thought they had earned.
If you believe that the Southern Flag is racist then you may also look down on the stars and stripes because.
1- All states had slavery untill it was no longer econoomically feasible
2- While the blacks were freed after the civil war they were not allowed to move up north to work in the industrial north.
3- the blacks were prevented from voting even though they were freed
4- The systimatic extermination of the native americans
5- the imprisionment of the japanese americans during WW2
In reality you could argue that the blacks of Today are better off becuase of slavery because had slavery not exsisted most of them would not be here today. However Not to make light of the history of the country we have made many mistakes and those that feel they were wronged due to the illegal war of lincoln actually could care less about slavery and are more concerned with the fruits of there labor going to others.