In war movies why does

imported_Champ

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only use a pistol and kicks ass!

I'm watching We were soldiers

and the hard core old guy is running around with a pistol and kicking ass, more then what anyone can do with a M-16 out there and he just has a 9mm? or other pistol

is there a certain age or experience when its like "screw M-16s I'm gonna kick ass with a 9mm!"?
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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First, it's the movies!
Second, most folks point and shoot without taking the time to aim.
Third, within say 25 feet, a pistol is much more accurate when pointing and shooting.
 

Andrew1990

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Actually he was using a Colt 1911 which is a .45

Anyways, at the range he was firing at, I would most likely use a pistol as well.
 

sandorski

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He's the Star. He's the Hero. He's the field commander and top ranking Officer.
 

Red Squirrel

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I always find this funny too.

This same person will also get shot 3 times in the head, heart, or other lethal place, and still survive, yet he will shoot people in the foot, and they will die. Gotta love movies.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: Champ
only use a pistol and kicks ass!

I'm watching We were soldiers

and the hard core old guy is running around with a pistol and kicking ass, more then what anyone can do with a M-16 out there and he just has a 9mm? or other pistol

is there a certain age or experience when its like "screw M-16s I'm gonna kick ass with a 9mm!"?

It's complete Hollywood BS. Standing up and walking around without taking cover is PURE Hollywood BS.

You get attacked, you take whatever cover you can, first thing.

IF you're holding groung like they were in that movie, you dig yourself a position, FIRST DAMN THING, that what your goddamn entrenching tool is for. :|
 

Triumph

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Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
First, it's the movies!
Second, most folks point and shoot without taking the time to aim.
Third, within say 25 feet, a pistol is much more accurate when pointing and shooting.

I can't imagine any reason a pistol would be more accurate than a rifle within 25 feet. Less cumbersome, easier to handle, but not more accurate.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Champ
Originally posted by: sandorski
He's the Star. He's the Hero. He's the field commander and top ranking Officer.

no the second older guy...the one thats not mel gibson

Ah ok, been awhile since I watched it.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
I always find this funny too.

This same person will also get shot 3 times in the head, heart, or other lethal place, and still survive, yet he will shoot people in the foot, and they will die. Gotta love movies.

There's a true story about an Officer on one of the beaches on D-Day that was shot multiple times, at least once in the face, who kept on leading his men across the beach. It all depends where your shot, even the Head can be hit without klling someone.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
First, it's the movies!
Second, most folks point and shoot without taking the time to aim.
Third, within say 25 feet, a pistol is much more accurate when pointing and shooting.

I can't imagine any reason a pistol would be more accurate than a rifle within 25 feet. Less cumbersome, easier to handle, but not more accurate.

That would be a huge advantage in such close range combat.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
First, it's the movies!
Second, most folks point and shoot without taking the time to aim.
Third, within say 25 feet, a pistol is much more accurate when pointing and shooting.

I can't imagine any reason a pistol would be more accurate than a rifle within 25 feet. Less cumbersome, easier to handle, but not more accurate.

First, rifles generally require two hands.
Second, pointing with your dominant hand is instinctive where as using both hands simultaneously is not.
Third, cluster fucks like to limit your rifle ammo but rarely check pistol rounds.
 

SketchMaster

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In paintball I switched to running with just a pistol, I lose range and fire power but gain speed and mobility. A nice bonus is some people freak out when they see you running at them with just a pistol because they think you are either crazy or some badass and they get shaken up and are easy to over take or fail back to their team giving you that much more ground.
 

BassBomb

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Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
First, it's the movies!
Second, most folks point and shoot without taking the time to aim.
Third, within say 25 feet, a pistol is much more accurate when pointing and shooting.

I can't imagine any reason a pistol would be more accurate than a rifle within 25 feet. Less cumbersome, easier to handle, but not more accurate.

First, rifles generally require two hands.
Second, pointing with your dominant hand is instinctive where as using both hands simultaneously is not.
Third, cluster fucks like to limit your rifle ammo but rarely check pistol rounds.

So its faster, not more accurate?
 

IronWing

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You guys really don't have a clue do you. Look, I play RtCW alot and I know what I'm talking about. The officers with the lugers do a lot more damage than the privates with the subs.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: ironwing
You guys really don't have a clue do you. Look, I play RtCW alot and I know what I'm talking about. The officers with the lugers do a lot more damage than the privates with the subs.

:laugh:
 

Newbian

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Because pistols are where the fun is and only newbs use other stuff.

I am tempted to break out the duelies.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: ironwing
You guys really don't have a clue do you. Look, I play RtCW alot and I know what I'm talking about. The officers with the lugers do a lot more damage than the privates with the subs.

:laugh:

but seriously...
small firearms are inherently going to be more accurate at such short distances simply due to the speed.

The time it takes to move a pistol or similarly small firearm, aim it properly and fire at 25ft (what is that, without doing the math, roughly 8m), is going to enable a far more precise shot than using a rifle or similarly bulky weapon.
For sure, a pistol is less accurate at any distant than a rifle, but in terms of human capabilities and accuracy, the pistol will actually be more accurate in quick fire, simply due to the nature of using our hands and firing such a small firearm.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Newbian
Because pistols are where the fun is and only newbs use other stuff.

I am tempted to break out the duelies.

shit I already had my auto repurchase pick up the duelies. Who doesn't? If you can afford it, always have duelies. I also have auto quick shooter abilities to make reloading said duelies extremely fast. You'll have a few rounds pumped into you before you even knew you were fired upon, even if I had to reload upon making contact with you.

damn noobs. make the killing too easy.
 
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