Who said firearms were an investment? Who said all investments make you money? What a weird discussion POINT. Seems more emotional than logical.How are you going to compensate me for my investment then? I'm not going to just give up my guns because you say so. I need to be compensated.
The family of 22 people first
I want gun reform. I just don't know what the answer is, because you're not gonna get a constitutional amendment easily. Those that want change have to push for it. Don't call on those with no vested interest to take action because they won't.How about you, as a responsible gun owner, figure it out.
Not the worst plan, but you've got a looong while before a liberal majority is available. Many, many more school shootings ahead. So good luck with that too.Hardly. The current interpretation of the 2nd is a recent thing and prior to 2008 the 2nd was a states rights issue. Simply stack the court with people who support the original intent of the constitution.
Cuz those are the easy ones. It's really hard to do 'semi-automatic weapons that are really good at killing people and also useful outside of killing people but people seem to use them a lot so we don't want them around... pending what people start using to shoot schools with, in which case we'll add those too'.There are multiple ways around the amendment route. The 'Well regulated Militia' clause could be reestablished as important to the freedom.
Or how is it that automatic weapons and air to ground missiles didn't need an amendment to regulate?
We can do that same thing with any firearm we don't like. Just like they did with sawed off shotguns.
If all that can be made illegal without an amendment so can semi-automatic firearms.
OK, fine. Let me just say that while I have no objections to reasonable efforts to trying to keep lethal weapons out of the hands of the mentally ill, the focus will always be on the guns and the efforts will always lead down the path to ban them and after that goal is reached we will still have all those sick people in our midst, because we who share in that mental illness and it is the projection of that inner madness on others that drives our fear of guns. I know that when I'm pissed off I'm being triggered by a truth I might even rather kill than face. Fear is the mind killer and what we fear is the truth about ourselves. You have nothing to fear from people who are right with themselves but you can't know who they are and especially so if you aren't yourself one of them. What is the truth. Does the nature of man deserve the stars or the ant hill.
I completely agree. There's a wide-ranging sickness that's existed in humanity for a very, very long time. I suspect in our species' youth, it was very useful to keep a small tribe in line, but in the last 200-500 years, it became a severe hindrance. Until we overcome that, it doesn't matter what we ban, or how we ban it, people will find a way to be absolutely miserable to each other. The US needs a cultural revolution, not a gun ban (though they may come together).OK, fine. Let me just say that while I have no objections to reasonable efforts to trying to keep lethal weapons out of the hands of the mentally ill, the focus will always be on the guns and the efforts will always lead down the path to ban them and after that goal is reached we will still have all those sick people in our midst, because we who share in that mental illness and it is the projection of that inner madness on others that drives our fear of guns. I know that when I'm pissed off I'm being triggered by a truth I might even rather kill than face. Fear is the mind killer and what we fear is the truth about ourselves. You have nothing to fear from people who are right with themselves but you can't know who they are and especially so if you aren't yourself one of them. What is the truth. Does the nature of man deserve the stars or the ant hill.
I know, those fuckers that march around in their body armor trying to overthrow elections will be in for a big surprise should they turn violent. Every liberal should have one.The rifle is the Sig MCX Spear, probably to be called the M5 in army service and the round is 277 Sig Fury.
The onion does this every time a mass shooting happens, which is both awesome and depressingly often.Onion front page today is sobering:
The onion does this every time a mass shooting happens, which is both awesome and depressingly often.
It’s both awesome and very sad.I've seen the story before, but I hadn't noticed that they fill the site with all the past ones as well.
I don't think that would change a single Republican vote. They would rationalize it away before their child was in the ground.I am not advocating for targeted or violence of any kind to be clear but the only way this changes is if families of many many prominent R pigs become victims of these mass shootings. Think the bastards Cruz, Abbott, McConnell, De-Santis, MTG, Keganaugh, Amy Phoney etc etc
What does that have to do with me?
So much for "All it takes to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun".
So much for "All it takes to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun".
Doesn't help if the good guy with a gun doesn't do fuck all. It's easy as fuck to say "Oh yeah, I would totally have stopped the active shooter if I were there on the scene", but actually doing it when duty calls is another.
where is the rage reaction when you need it?
It's pretty clear that 21 people, 19 of which are children already paid it with their lives yesterday.How are you going to compensate me for my investment then? I'm not going to just give up my guns because you say so. I need to be compensated.
Obviously more than you realize or even understand. Every one of those lives was the price paid for you to keep your guns you believe you need to be compensated for.What does that have to do with me?
I don't think that would change a single Republican vote. They would rationalize it away before their child was in the ground.
While I know they don't want a solution, I at least know the underlying psychology of why not.
It is this basic premise. Fear. Fear of other people with guns, fear of not having your own. Thus they cling to that fear and the "solution" of the 2A. Irregardless of how illogical it is to feel safer if everyone was armed VS very few people. America has aptly demonstrated time and again that being armed results in a death toll. Blinded by fear, Republicans simply refuse to see reason from madness. As is typical in being human.
- What stops a person with a gun?
- 99% of the time, it'll be another person with a gun.
They don't want the kids to die. It is just impossible for them to arrive at a proper conclusion to the problem at hand.
Seems one thing that can be done is for the parents of the victims to file a class action suit against the state and personally against Gov. Abbot for not providing adequate security at the state's schools.
As an aside, sad to say it crossed my mind that a wholly different scenario would have occurred as far as how Abbot and his cronies tightly controlled the narrative coming out of this tragedy if a mass murder of pre-teen kids occurred at an exclusive religiously affiliated private school located in a posh neighborhood.