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So, the Chief in charge of the scene did NOT have a radio with him to stay in touch with communications as the situation progressed?

Texas senator: School police chief didn't know of 911 calls

SFGate|16 minutes ago
The commander at the scene of a school shooting in Texas was not informed of panicked 911 calls coming from inside the school building, a Texas state senator said Thursday. Sen. Roland Gutierrez said the pleas for help from people inside Robb Elementary as the shooting was taking place May 24 did not make their way to school district police Chief Pete Arredondo.


That alone should get him fired.
 
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FlawleZ

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I'm gonna guess the Flawed one will ignore posts 1,088, 1,091 and 1,097.
I don't have all day long to sit here and reply to everyone on demand. I'll reply to reasonable responses to contribute to discussion when I can. To give you a clue, posts like #1098 are not contributing to worthwhile discussion and much like the immature and obnoxious kid flicking his peas across the table at school lunch, in going to ignore.
 
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nakedfrog

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I don't have all day long to sit here and reply to everyone on demand. I'll reply to reasonable responses to contribute to discussion when I can. To give you a clue, posts like #1098 are not contributing to worthwhile discussion and much like the immature and obnoxious kid flicking his peas across the table at school lunch, in going to ignore.
In a thread about mass shootings, discussing the fact that they occur places other than schools in response to your ideas about hardening schools doesn't contribute to the discussion?
 

nakedfrog

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Was your post #1098?
No, I was talking about these posts:
I'm gonna guess the Flawed one will ignore posts 1,088, 1,091 and 1,097.
I guess you just wanted to prove Lost_in_the_HTTP right by whining about a different post instead?
If you are a coward, maybe it would be better for you if you just owned it instead of hiding it.
 
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Gardener

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I am not comparing the teens of other countries.. I am comparing current teens of the US with past teens of the US. We have exponential amount of out of control kids/teens in this country today compared to what we did in the past, and it is 100% related to the lack of discipline, accountability etc.. Part of it is in the US, teachers, government officials, etc have taken the fear element that we grew up with as kids because they tell the kids of today, your parents can't do X, Y, Z.. Most parent's never had to resort to those discipline measures because the fear of what would happen was enough.. but that tool has been taken away. Those of us that where raised "old school" in the US, our parents just had to look at us and not even say a word and we know we had to straighten up. Now days, parents look at their kids, yell at their kids, tell them a million times to straighten up, some even sit and count and the kids just look at them, smile and continue misbehaving without a care in the world.

If you step back, you will notice that anytime "new information or new facts" (in this case it's new facts about brain development) has been learned.. people start using it as an excuse.. The US has become a nation of excuses..

Get off my lawn.
 

Zorba

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Homerboy

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eelw

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Passionate speech there by Biden. Here’s hoping he convinces enough independents that if the senate fails to act, the people will vote for change
 
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MrSquished

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Passionate speech there by Biden. Here’s hoping he convinces enough independents that if the senate fails to act, the people will vote for change

Yeah I just caught the last 10 minutes. It was a good one. Nothing will move the Trumpies, they are horrific, but maybe some independents is the hope as you say.
 

sportage

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Frankly, I was surprised. Surprised that Biden finally did what I want all democrats in office to do, to establish a clear link between how Americans vote and what laws congress then enacts. It truly comes down to one person, the voter. Not the president, not some congress man or woman, but the voter and who they vote for.

Joe Biden finally made that link. And no doubt, people on the far right will say Biden turned this into politics. Yes, president Biden did exactly that because politics is the problem standing in the way of gun control. Politics, who the voters vote for, who the people elect into office, all of it politics. Get the people to cast a vote while also in the moment thinking about the consequences of that vote.
So, do people agree with Joe Biden? Then never vote for a Ted Cruz. Never vote for a Mitch McConnell. Never vote for any republican or democrat that will not act on gun control. And when we say gun control, we're talking about to ban the weapons of war. This is America folks, not Vietnam. Your children are simply that, your children, and not the Vietcong.

I will add this.... when we say gun control we are also talking about the banning of nuclear weapons because one day soon someone will devise a nuclear device that can fit into a shoebox. And the NRA will believe the second amendment also guarantees every American the right to own a nuclear weapon. Come-on people, we know that day is coming. The day when the NRA considers the owning of nukes as an American constitutional right. Believe it.
 

TheVrolok

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Sure it can. The majority of the pro 2A crowd is aware that once you start some limitations, it only starts the inevitable which is a steep slippery slope.
I see many of you have a hard time understanding the need for self defense and the ability to protect one's self and their home. Most Pro 2A people just want the ability to defend themselves or their family.

The slippery slope argument is disingenuous and intellectually lazy.
 

eelw

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Yes those guns should also be banned


But that repugnican looked like he was turned on by rubbing all those guns
 

hal2kilo

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Precedent has already been set with the tobacco companies. Somehow they still stay in business without advertising.

NRA can't file that suit since they are not a party in that potential suit.

When was the last time we saw a dildo commercial? We make those kind of decisions all the time.
You haven't seen some of the paid programming on cable in the wee hours then. I still agree with what you were saying.
 

Zorba

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Cool, why don't you sure with us how you are you going to harden 100,000 schools in the US, while not making them into a prison and massively reduce school shootings. While also not impacting parent's ability to interact with the school.

BTW: I was in school when Columbine happened. I went the high school Time Magazine said was the most likely school in the nation for the next mass shooting. I saw the fences go up, we all had to wear name tags. Basically impossible for parents to participate with the school. Close campus, no leaving for lunch (This was actually because of a mass shooting at a Wendy's killing a bunch of HS kids at lunch well before Columbine). None of this would've even slowed down a mass shooter. It was all expensive theater that made going to school there suck.

@FlawleZ you ever going to bother telling us how you are going to hardened the schools? Or has Tucker not told you that part yet?
 
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