Unintentional injuries are the #1 cause of death for children and all younger Americans (ages 1-44, before heart disease and cancer starts kicking in.) Suicide tends to be #2 save for little children.
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What are unintentional injuries?
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Homicide is horrific, but still quite a bit lower in rates. This includes all types of murder, inc mass shootings, which is only a fraction of the total number.
Listening to the news, you would think it's only guns guns guns. I guess because banning alcohol, drugs and cars would be universally unpopular. Note that data set on drowning?...
Houses with pools have been far more deadly to children than houses with guns.
But hey, won't anyone think of the children?!?!??!!
Unintentional Injury Statistics
Statistics relating to unintentional injurieswww.hopkinsmedicine.org
Start a thread about it. Other than as a "what aboutism" it has nothing to do with this thread. Except maybe if scared white men couldn't get metal black penis extenders they'd instead spend the money on black silicone solar panels.I’m very pro gun control. Don’t own one myself. I absolutely think we need action, now.
But why are we so fucking outraged about this when we all actively contribute to the mass death of children.
"In first place on the rankings, the US has released more than 509GtCO2 since 1850 and is responsible for the largest share of historical emissions, Carbon Brief analysis shows, with some 20% of the global total."
"WHO also estimated that climate change will cause around 250,000 additional deaths per year between 2030 and 2050 — 38,000 from heat exposure in the elderly, 48,000 from diarrhea, 60,000 from malaria and 95,000 from childhood undernutrition."
"The Children’s Climate Risk Index (CCRI) reveals:
- 240 million children are highly exposed to coastal flooding;
- 330 million children are highly exposed to riverine flooding;
- 400 million children are highly exposed to cyclones;
- 600 million children are highly exposed to vector borne diseases;
- 815 million children are highly exposed to lead pollution;
- 820 million children are highly exposed to heatwaves;
- 920 million children are highly exposed to water scarcity;
- 1 billion children are are highly exposed to exceedingly high levels of air pollution"
One billion children at ‘extremely high risk’ of the impacts of the climate crisis - UNICEF
Children in the Central African Republic, Chad, and Nigeria are among the most at risk of climate change, according to UNICEF’s first child-focused climate risk index.www.unicef.org
Start a thread about it. Other than as a "what aboutism" it has nothing to do with this thread. Except maybe if scared white men couldn't get metal black penis extenders they'd instead spend the money on black silicone solar panels.
You realize the US big pharma isn't a good thing either, right? Just because US big pharma is an issue doesn't make guns not an issue. America has a LOT of problems that needs to be fixed.
That is why I said directly. Indirectly voting has lead to a great many deaths.Ironically voting did exactly that, by voting in people that refuse to go for gun control.
This is the system we the people built.
But which matters more? We've shown our collective inability to walk and chew gum at a time, so where should the media attention be? A horrific school shooting caused by an abject failure of our society, or the abject failure of our society?That is why I said directly. Indirectly voting has lead to a great many deaths.
I think direct examples make more impact than saying "republicans have rotted out the country."But which matters more? We've shown our collective inability to walk and chew gum at a time, so where should the media attention be? A horrific school shooting caused by an abject failure of our society, or the abject failure of our society?
Provide an alternative that's workable. I think the last notable gun control event that actually had measurable support was for bump stocks, because they effectively made an unbanned weapon into a banned weapon legally. And even THAT had resistance. At the time of the LV shooting, almost 20% of Americans thought we should keep them. Thankfully it wasn't left up to congress to vote on or we'd probably still have them. So provide an alternative that'll actually go somewhere in the next two decades and we can hash it out.We should clearly derail a topic with every other issue humans face, other than guns that are used to kill people. We can only do ONE thing at a time. We are the dumb.
Agreed, but unless it's actionable then the only purpose is outrage (which is really just money for news orgs).I think direct examples make more impact than saying "republicans have rotted out the country."
We are quite capable of being outraged at more than one thing at a time. There is plenty of outrage on climate issues as well.
It is just that climate change is a large and wide field to be outraged at, so it is more diffuse because the issues we have to tackle are many and varied on that front.
But which matters more? We've shown our collective inability to walk and chew gum at a time, so where should the media attention be? A horrific school shooting caused by an abject failure of our society, or the abject failure of our society?
That was by executive order wasn't it, not by congressional legislation?Provide an alternative that's workable. I think the last notable gun control event that actually had measurable support was for bump stocks, because they effectively made an unbanned weapon into a banned weapon legally. And even THAT had resistance. At the time of the LV shooting, almost 20% of Americans thought we should keep them. Thankfully it wasn't left up to congress to vote on or we'd probably still have them. So provide an alternative that'll actually go somewhere in the next two decades and we can hash it out.
Provide an alternative that's workable. I think the last notable gun control event that actually had measurable support was for bump stocks, because they effectively made an unbanned weapon into a banned weapon legally. And even THAT had resistance. At the time of the LV shooting, almost 20% of Americans thought we should keep them. Thankfully it wasn't left up to congress to vote on or we'd probably still have them. So provide an alternative that'll actually go somewhere in the next two decades and we can hash it out.
If we have no hope of dealing with guns, we have even less hope of dealing with climate change. The industries preventing anything being done on the latter dwarf the former orders of magnitude, and they're more entrenched in governments, plus have more impact on daily lives.
Abortion, guns, and a litany of other single topics should have easily been dealt with, but they haven't been. If we can't get small things done, the larger stuff has no hope of being addressed in any meaningful capacity.
Well one way to make sure nothing gets done about anything is to just throw up your hands and when any single issue is brought up scream how there's 100s of others that need addressed as well while literally fucking arguing to not do a goddamn thing about any one of them because of it. Which is exactly what you and Roger Wilco are doing now.
Go make a "I got 99 problems but guns aren't 1" thread if you want to keep this argument up. Stop derailing this thread like you're gun nuts that just added to your dildo collections.
If you don't think this topic is an issue worth addressing then STFU and nope your ass out of the thread.
Define workable when 50% of the Congress will flat out say no.How about you do that then? I haven't seen a single goddamn workable solution to anything from you on any of the shit you're bitching about.
If we have no hope of dealing with guns, we have even less hope of dealing with climate change. The industries preventing anything being done on the latter dwarf the former orders of magnitude, and they're more entrenched in governments, plus have more impact on daily lives.
Abortion, guns, and a litany of other single topics should have easily been dealt with, but they haven't been. If we can't get small things done, the larger stuff has no hope of being addressed in any meaningful capacity.
Here are a few things that could be done last week and weren't...
- Raise age of purchasing a weapon to 25. I say 25 because why the hell should I not be able to rent a car but can purchase a gun? At least raise it to 21 though.
- Mandatory 30 day (or something) wait period from when purchasing a gun.
If both of these were in place, both the Uvalde shooting and the Tulsa hospital shooting would not have happened when they did.
It also won't affect ANYBODY who currently owns a gun right now. So no one can cry "DER TAKING MUH GUNS!"
Fix the senate, fix private ownership of multiple news networks, fix blatantly partisan news (fox basically), fix private donations to politicians, fix income inequality. That'd be a real good start to turn our culture around in 50 years or so, so that we can do something about guns. Ironically if you did that, you wouldn't need gun control anymore.How about you do that then? I haven't seen a single goddamn workable solution to anything from you on any of the shit you're bitching about.
Yeah I wasn't saying that was all that needs to be done by any means, just saying that would be done RIGHT NOW that won't have any effect at all on anyone that currently owns guns.In addition, I'd like to see:
1) Mandatory safety training (xxx hours) with gun you want to buy, at local PD
2) Until training is complete, you don't own the gun. If you commit any violent crime or fail the training course, you are put on a 1+ year waiting period before being able to try again
3) Safety training must be completed every year at your expense with the local PD
4) You have the right to bear arms, but you don't have the right to store them in your house
4a) All registered guns are kept locked up at the local PD, and must be signed out when you want to use them along with a stated purpose and date when they will be returned
4b) If any gun is not returned on time (without a valid reason), a warrant is issued for your arrest, you lose your gun rights for a year, and you pay a very hefty fine
Kyle is scared he won’t be able to murder more people. Poor Kyle.I guess this kind of gun is needed for making sure coyotes and deer aren't messing with farms.
In addition, I'd like to see:
1) Mandatory safety training (xxx hours) with gun you want to buy, at local PD
2) Until training is complete, you don't own the gun. If you commit any violent crime or fail the training course, you are put on a 1+ year waiting period before being able to try again
3) Safety training must be completed every year at your expense with the local PD
4) You have the right to bear arms, but you don't have the right to store them in your house
4a) All registered guns are kept locked up at the local PD, and must be signed out when you want to use them along with a stated purpose and date when they will be returned
4b) If any gun is not returned on time (without a valid reason), a warrant is issued for your arrest, you lose your gun rights for a year, and you pay a very hefty fine
Interesting, the insane part to me is having people that want to murder each other.Literally insane anyone can just buy a gun with no meaningful background checks or training.