A cop armed with an AR-15 in every classroom paid for by cutting teacher salaries.
Even better would be full time CCTV surveillance and armed guards at entrance. Exits only opened automatically or remotely by surveillance team in case of emergency. Every teaching institution becomes a fort. That's the price to pay for the freedom of letting loonies walk around freely with firearms.
The schools in Texas are not defenseless. There were 3 armed people at this school that the shooter killed before he started killing the kids.Schools need to be hardened. It's insane we wasted hundreds of billions on PPP and other govt waste, but a school like this is defenseless, not access controlled, and no safety officers available.
Anytime you have a gun in a room you have an opportunity for it to be used.Ds will seriously need to consider allowing R areas to allow teachers to arm themselves as well.
So will anything that isn't gun control. The fact is that people are emotional and stupid. Some of them are going to snap and do something horrific. That is true across every country and every population, across all of human history. It happens no matter how much mental healthcare you provide. Someone always falls through the cracks. You can't control for that. You can't stop it. All you can do is limit the damage they can do when it happens.Just blaming guns and pushing only gun control onto 100M law abiding citizens (many who own to protect themselves and their family) will be guaranteed failure.
I have no problem with background checks and keeping guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally unstable.
Banning guns because they have a black stock and a pistol grip and accept detachable magazines I do not agree with.
Here, this will help ruin your day:I guess parents are still waiting to hear if their kid was killed or injured. I was thinking that seems typical since dead kids can't talk and don't have ID on them as a rule. It must take painfully long to id a dead kid, a dead victim.
THEN IT HIT ME....
I know what those damn senate republicans will do next. I know what Mitch McConnell and Ted Cruz will offer up in addressing gun violence. All that the assholes will do is to propose a law requiring all schools K thru 12 to require all students wear wrist bands and ankle bands with names of the student so that the dead can be more easily identified after a mass shooting.
THIS is all those fucking senate republicans will be offering to do for gun law.
THAT'S IT FOLKS!!!
Ted Cruz will think it better to id a dead body after the fact rather than impose gun laws to protect a kid before the fact.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE VOTERS???
To keep electing these assholes back into congress?
Do 80%, 90% of Americans REALLY want common sense gun laws? I really doubt it.... Probably more like oh say 30% if you go by who the voters keep reelecting into office. It cant possibly be 80%. No way.
And it didn't take long for a politician to open his mouth and insert his foot...
Arizona GOP congressman Paul Gosar tweeted (after the shooter had been identified as 18 yr-old male resident of Uvalde) that the shooter was a "transsexual leftist illegal alien."
I would say UNBELIEVABLE! but, sadly, it no longer is.
https://www.businessinsider.com/tex...ar-touts-false-claim-transgender-woman-2022-5
The schools in Texas are not defenseless. There were 3 armed people at this school that the shooter killed before he started killing the kids.
While I think banning all guns is the right solution as supported by the science, I'm willing to take whatever people will accept at any given time.
To me the first and most obvious is universal background checks, no exceptions.
I'd be interested in how you split cities and rural, since that is the real divide.Just start a process for a national divorce. Its better to be divorced than in a hellish union like this.
I’ve long been uneasy with how simple it is for people to obtain semi-auto weapons which basically always are are used in these attacks. Even though I own quite a few I would not be opposed to tighter training (government funded if required) and licensing requirements to purchase. Somebody besides a guy at a sales counter should have to put eyes on you for a while before you get these IMO.
Sorry the rest of the world doesnt see it this way. Only solution is to disarm completely.Even though I own quite a few I would not be opposed to tighter training (government funded if required) and licensing requirements to purchase.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but why gov't funded?
They don't pay for my driver's license or those classes needed.
You want a semi-automatic weapon YOU pay for it.
This is very true - they think gun restrictions will only remove their guns and then leave them vulnerable to some bad actor. This is one reason you see people advocate for armed guards in schools despite them being largely ineffective. The Sandy Hook shooter fired like 150 rounds in less than four minutes - there is no way you're going to get response times low enough to prevent a massive tragedy.
wait - there were cops at the school and they ran?
How about CCTV surveillance + invisible walkthrough metal detectors? As soon as the alarm is triggered, everyone scrambles into safe rooms until the all clear is given? No change will simply encourage more suicidal maniacs to leave their mark on the world, no matter how horrible it may be.So... turn our schools into jails? That seems like a horrible "solution" (and I'm sure one you really don't want either)
How about CCTV surveillance + invisible walkthrough metal detectors? As soon as the alarm is triggered, everyone scrambles into safe rooms until the all clear is given? No change will simply encourage more suicidal maniacs to leave their mark on the world, no matter how horrible it may be.
But armed guards, locked doors, and active shooter drills are perfectly fine on kids psyche’s. It’s not like making them wear masks or CRT.So... turn our schools into jails? That seems like a horrible "solution" (and I'm sure one you really don't want either)
It's possible that school metal detectors are effective but I doubt they are significantly so and as @Paratus mentions all of these bunkering interventions likely affect students' psyches as well.Many inner-city schools already do this sort of thing.... my guess would be that the harder it is to get into a school with a gun/weapon the less likely the school is to be shot up although I have no numbers to support this opinion.
But armed guards, locked doors, and active shooter drills are perfectly fine on kids psyche’s. It’s not like making them wear masks or CRT.
Might have missed the /s there.No - those things suck too.
The whole point I'm trying to make is that we shouldn't need ANY of these types of things in our schools and if we have to deploy them, it's a complete and utter failure.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but why gov't funded?
They don't pay for my driver's license or those classes needed.
You want a semi-automatic weapon YOU pay for it.
If it didn’t come across in the post I’m in agreement with you.No - those things suck too.
The whole point I'm trying to make is that we shouldn't need ANY of these types of things in our schools and if we have to deploy them, it's a complete and utter failure.
It's possible that school metal detectors are effective but I doubt they are significantly so and as @Paratus mentions all of these bunkering interventions likely affect students' psyches as well.
Impacts of metal detector use in schools: insights from 15 years of research - PubMed
There is insufficient data in the literature to determine whether the presence of metal detectors in schools reduces the risk of violent behavior among students, and some research suggests that the presence of metal detectors may detrimentally impact student perceptions of safety.pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov