Considering the demographics of who does the majority of the mass shootings in this country despite being a significant minority of the US population, maybe more gang control instead of gun control would have more of an impact on the gun violence numbers.
The incident yesterday at the Super Bowl rally is looking to be gang related as several headlines now read it was a 'dispute between several parties'.
It’s insane you gun nutters aren’t willing to save just a single child’s life than sacrifice your metal penis.
100% this.The war on drugs is the source of a lot of our violence in America. I think we could experience a significant reduction in violence if we ended the war on drugs.
I'm not saying that's the only way to reduce gun violence, but I do believe it would be the single most effective thing we could do and I think it is more realistically achievable than say an outright ban on guns or even bans on certain categories of guns.
Too bad thousands of parents think that way every year and come home to a kid with a blown off head. Really tens of thousands a year.I think most people would give up their gun if they thought it would literally save a child's life. I think they reject your claim that they personally need to give up their gun to save a child's life.
It's really if you ask a pro-lifer if they would cut off their dick to save a different person's child and they'd say no. Now remember their guns are just a metal penis. Gun nutters literally don't care about the deaths causes by their metal penises. Of course, it will never be them or their guns involved. Even though the majority of gun death are suicides, accidents, and domestic violence. Not gangs.I guess the Sandy Hook massacre didn’t happen close enough to the election for anyone who votes Republican.
Too bad thousands of parents think that way every year and come home to a kid with a blown off head. Really tens of thousands a year.
Go fuck yourself you little piece of shit. Fucking kids die because you are too much of a fucking pussy to live your life without a gun by your side.The media only sensationalizes the KC Superbowl rally, Uvalde hoping to stir that pot and brainwash the population into thinking that gun violence
Yes, if they didn't have a gun to accidentally or purposely blown their brains out with, they would most likely had not died. People with access to guns are more likely to attempt suicide and far far more likely to succeed. Most people do not attempt more than once.If the parent would have given up their gun, would the kid have been saved?
Yup, just look at this, places with less gun culture have less gun deaths. Shocking, I know. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/We have so much gun violence and suicides from guns because we have so many fucking guns in circulation in this country. Full stop.
Guns are THE source of the problem.
It's also bullshit. Gangs only result in about 13% of murders in the US. The majority of gun murders are not gang related, they are domestic violence related. Gun nutters just don't want to believe they they might one day kill their family or vice versa so they pretend it's those poor black people in far away cities that are doing all the killing. Not the family that had too much to drink and got into a fight.Every country has poor people, every country has mental illness, and every country (as far as I can see) has it's discriminated-against and historically-disadvantaged ethnic minorities. But those things only affect the distribution of gun deaths in countries that also have widespread availability of guns.
The racism involved in oppressing a group for centuries, then claiming the condition of that group is somehow nothing to do with you, and arguing that the stats related to them should somehow be separated from those for the country as a whole , is kind-of off-the-scale. It's like arguing everyone in your country is wealthy, as long as you exclude the working class. It's only those pesky proletarians who bring the stats down.
So you admit guns are the problem, but the only way to fix that it by fixing humans to be less fearful. How about we get rid of the guns? Considering fear has gun up with gun ownership, while actual crime has gone down. Why do you value your gun more than other people's lives? Just admit, you feel (irrationally) protected by your gun, calming your irrational fears, and that is worth more to you than someone else's life.We live in a country that has allowed its citizens the right to own guns as a matter of self defense based on the will to survive. This creates a problem. The more violence that manifests in the country the greater the numbers of gun sales. The greater the perception of threat the greater the focus on how to stay alive. Recently the largest number of buyers of guns are minorities and women. One of the fears driving them is the racial and sexual violence that makes the news. If it needs, it leads.
The more people buy and focus on guns to deal with threat and the mose psychot people become feeling threatened everywhere, the more gun deaths we have.
We can do nothing about the survival instinct. It is genetic. We can create a world where there is less fear and insecurity, where personal danger from others is rare most gun buyers will be hobbyists.
If you want to see disassociation look at how many people are mentally ill and pretend otherwise. Oh, that's right, we can't because that is what causes disassociation in the first place. Looking at the deaths guns cause is easy by comparison. We get to blame guns, not see our selves as the source of the violence that causes all that death. I admit that guns are a problem that is difficult to deal with because people have an inborn survival instinct and where threatened want to have them for self defense. It is always morally better for a person who is willing to act out his violence against innocent people be killed by an innocent person who wants to stay alive. Gun ownership will decrease and gun problems with it if we do something about the fact we are all sick with violence. And don't get mad if I tell you you're full of hate.So you admit guns are the problem, but the only way to fix that it by fixing humans to be less fearful. How about we get rid of the guns? Considering fear has gun up with gun ownership, while actual crime has gone down. Why do you value your gun more than other people's lives? Just admit, you feel (irrationally) protected by your gun, calming your irrational fears, and that is worth more to you than someone else's life.
The real problem is we hide the results of gun deaths. Every gun should have to come in a box covered in pictures of dead children. Every box of ammo should show a toddler that was shot. Every time a school is shot up, the pictures of dead kids should be on TV for weeks, like the WTC coming down on 9/11. People are allowed to disassociate from the actual carnage because we hide it.
Hell, Columbine should have been when the shoe dropped. Sandy Hook was the second swing of the same axe as far as I'm concerned.If Sandy Hook didn't create any meaningful change, nothing will.
I'm a very strong proponent of 2A, but you really, really need to shut that very dumb mouth of yours and go sit in a corner. Nobody of value is going to entertain your input.The media only sensationalizes the KC Superbowl rally, Uvalde hoping to stir that pot
It's also bullshit. Gangs only result in about 13% of murders in the US. The majority of gun murders are not gang related, they are domestic violence related. Gun nutters just don't want to believe they they might one day kill their family or vice versa so they pretend it's those poor black people in far away cities that are doing all the killing. Not the family that had too much to drink and got into a fight.
Republican politicians or the voters?uvalde did. and they still dont give a fuck.
Gangs only exist in the US? You are really giving us an education.Until America wants to accept the fact that the majority of all mass shootings are gang related and committed by 13 % of the US population with hand guns and not assault rifles, gun violence will not change in this country. We are already numb to the senseless shootings that occur every weekend in Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, Philadelphia, etc (and again by just 13% of the population)...maybe the definition of a mass killing should be adjusted? right now, both school shootings and drive by/gang shooting are all lumped together. Wonder what would happen if these stats were separated?
The media only sensationalizes the KC Superbowl rally, Uvalde hoping to stir that pot and brainwash the population into thinking that gun violence is mostly AR-15 shootings at schools and movie theaters, but those shootings are only a fraction of the gun violence that occurs in the US (again, what would happen if these numbers were separated?) The majority of gun violence sensationalized by the mainstream media is actually done with handguns and are black on black shootings but all we hear is assault rifles (no mention of handguns) used in school shootings. New gun laws are not going to affect gang members.
The mainstream media tries to project that today's astronomical gun violence numbers are a result of school shootings with AR15 assault rifles while the truth is that majority of gun violence is committed by gang members with hand guns. And yet when you read the comments on Yahoo or wherever about gun violence, liberals blame the NRA and republicans even thought the majority of the shootings are done by African Americans (who are most likely not NRA members or Republicans).
and anyone here can correct me if I am wrong, but if the KC shooters were white, there would be at least 10-20 pages of how white shooters are the main cause of gun violence in this country, but the way things look now, since the KC rally is probably gang related, this story will drop off in the next few days...and if that were the case, their mug shots have been plastered all over the news. I saw several shots of one of the 'suspects' in a hoodie yesterday on X, but strangely, as of today no pictures of him are being circulated on mainstream media.
The media only sensationalizes the KC Superbowl rally, Uvalde
Best part is the gun nutters fellate the police that just stood there in the parking lot for an hour as kids were being murdered. If that didn't show you how useless the police are nothing will.Go fuck yourself you little piece of shit. Fucking kids die because you are too much of a fucking pussy to live your life without a gun by your side.
The media doesn't need to sensationalize dead kids. It is already SENSATIONAL that in the richest country in the world we let mental ill fucks buy mass killing weapons and kill children for sport a few hours later. The fact that you and every other gun nut thinks that is no big deal shows what kind of mental illness owning a gun causes. In a fair world only gun nut's kids would get their heads blown off, but unfortunately life isn't fair.
Mass shootings are even less gang related than normal murders. Gangs don't normally go around and kill 5 people at the same time. Meanwhile last Easter a former coworker and her entire family was killed by her brother, while their kids slept in the other room. Never underestimate the harm that can be done with Alcohol and handguns. 5 people, all 30 plus, small town, all with professional jobs, gone in the blink of the eye. Had there been no gun, there is almost zero chance any of them would've died that night.Yeah, I suspected as much, but couldn't be bothered to look for the stats - plus he said "mass shootings", so all the one-on-one domestic murders and intra-family accidental shootings where a toddler shoots their sibling, wouldn't be included.
Even on "mass shootings" the demographic responsible for most of them would be 'males'. Or 'Americans'. The US is just a very screwed-up culture.
The confederate army?Gangs only exist in the US? You are really giving us an education.
BTW - What gang was responsible for the deadliest mass shooting in the countries history? I may have missed that.
Yes, if they didn't have a gun to accidentally or purposely blown their brains out with, they would most likely had not died. People with access to guns are more likely to attempt suicide and far far more likely to succeed. Most people do not attempt more than once.
It sounds like your issue is with people who refuse to properly secure/store their gun, not with the actual ownership of the gun. There should be tougher laws on safety/storage of guns for gun owners.