incredible or evo?

nageov3t

Lifer
Feb 18, 2004
42,808
83
91
so, I'm getting to the point where I'm seriously thinking about getting a new phone. I've been on sprint sero with a nondescript flip phone for the past 2 years. before that, I was on verizon for ~5 years. haven't had any bad experiences with either company.

I want to trade my flip phone in for a smart phone and I don't want an iphone (deleting apps for content reasons left a bad taste in my mouth, plus the whole flash thing).

I can't decide, though... get an Incredible now-ish or hold out till the Evo is presumably released in July?
 

tatteredpotato

Diamond Member
Jul 23, 2006
3,934
0
76
Incredible isn't quite as advanced as the EVO, but VZW has a better network and they'll charge you for it. On the other hand the EVO is better (technically speaking) and you'll have WiMAX if you live in on of the "select markets". Seeing as you've had experience with both networks it shouldn't be too hard to make a decision based on that... but keep in mind that Sprint voice roams on VZW while data doesn't. So if your experience has been with a non data phone you might have been on some VZW towers from time to time that won't provide you with data.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
47,351
14
61
Lets start with the usual questions:

What would you like to be able to do?
What features are most important to you?
Any specific concerns on either phone?
 

anxi80

Lifer
Jul 7, 2002
12,294
2
0
if you're happy with sprint and dont mind parting with the sero plan then id say go with the evo. its a nice phone with good specs and im curious to see what reviews say about its performance, which i dont doubt will be pretty damn positive. this is coming from somebody who has already preordered the incredible, but my reason for choosing that over the evo is because ive been happy with verizon's service plus sprint's 4g hasnt been implemented in my area yet and im thinking the incredible will be a nice bridge until verizon introduces lte in the area. not to mention the work discount i get from verizon helps also. but like i said, if you're happy with sprints service then by all means continue on.
 

MJinZ

Diamond Member
Nov 4, 2009
8,192
0
0
Incredible isn't quite as advanced as the EVO, but VZW has a better network and they'll charge you for it. On the other hand the EVO is better (technically speaking) and you'll have WiMAX if you live in on of the "select markets". Seeing as you've had experience with both networks it shouldn't be too hard to make a decision based on that... but keep in mind that Sprint voice roams on VZW while data doesn't. So if your experience has been with a non data phone you might have been on some VZW towers from time to time that won't provide you with data.

Sprint data sure does roam on VZW. It just gets bumped down to 1XRTT.
 

preslove

Lifer
Sep 10, 2003
16,754
63
91
How good is Sprint's Data network around you? Is it getting 4g soon? Sprint's newer employee pricing plan is the best in the industry: $59 for 400 (or 450?) minutes and unlimited texts and data. That's hard to beat.

If Verizon's data is better to the point that it is worth the extra money per month, get the incredible. If not? EVO all the way.
 

dguy6789

Diamond Member
Dec 9, 2002
8,558
3
76
Evo's screen is bigger, but it's a lesser quality screen than what is in the Incredible. Faster data speeds only when you're in a 4G Sprint area, which isn't going to be very likely much of the time. Verizon will get you 3G speeds more often than Sprint will.
 

randomlinh

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
20,846
2
0
linh.wordpress.com
Evo's screen is bigger, but it's a lesser quality screen than what is in the Incredible. Faster data speeds only when you're in a 4G Sprint area, which isn't going to be very likely much of the time. Verizon will get you 3G speeds more often than Sprint will.

basically this. I'd almost say get the Incredible because of the better screen. That has been the one drawback that has me hesitant on jumping on the EVO when it comes out. I'm in no rush, so I'll wait (prob till fall, to see if Palm can keep going, heh)
 

boomhower

Diamond Member
Sep 13, 2007
7,228
19
81
Personally I like the Incredible better but I can't deal with VZW's prices. The specs for the EVO aren't set in stone. There are rampant rumors that the screen will be upgraded before it's released. We'll just have to wait and see.
 

nageov3t

Lifer
Feb 18, 2004
42,808
83
91
how useful do you think the hdmi out will prove to be on the Evo for, like, streaming netflix or hulu to a tv or something?
 

abaez

Diamond Member
Jan 28, 2000
7,155
1
81
I was set on the EVO, but the Incredible had a great review by Engadget which made me think twice since Engadget has been very tough on the Android phones, but I think I will go with the EVO still.

Currently have the N1 on Tmobile and the service simply sucks. Does not work here in my apartment in the middle of downtown Los Angeles and I was at Coachella last weekend and did not get any data and was basically crippled. The drawback of being tied into Google's services (voice/mail etc) and not having data basically only allows you to make calls and that's it. Text through Gvoice was a no go without data, and I don't have a message plan. It was infuriating and was the last straw. My friends with two Verizon BB's had no problem (then again they are paying triple what I pay monthly) but still.

I think as long as I have *some* data connect all the time for basic texting in weird areas, I will be fine with Sprint and the cheaper prices vs Verizon. Plus 4G is in L.A. too.

For the screens, the Incredible uses the same type of screen as the N1 I believe (AMOLED?), which is almost impossible in daylight. I think the TFT screen on the EVO isn't as nice but is much better in daylight.
 

CTrain

Diamond Member
Sep 26, 2001
4,940
0
0
basically this. I'd almost say get the Incredible because of the better screen. That has been the one drawback that has me hesitant on jumping on the EVO when it comes out. I'm in no rush, so I'll wait (prob till fall, to see if Palm can keep going, heh)

I used to think that way too but don't judge unless you have played with the HD2.
I have had the HD2 for a month now and the screen is gorgeous.
Its just gorgeous even though its not AMOLED.
Its not like its AMOLED vs iphone screen.
The HD2 screen is gorgeous enough to where it shouldn't be a deciding factor.
 

CTrain

Diamond Member
Sep 26, 2001
4,940
0
0
Personally I like the Incredible better but I can't deal with VZW's prices. The specs for the EVO aren't set in stone. There are rampant rumors that the screen will be upgraded before it's released. We'll just have to wait and see.

I highly doubt that.
There's not a known 4.3 AMOLED screen out there.
I know its possible to produce one but if that was the case, Sprint would have had it in their prototype to show it to the public.
If they didn't have 4.3 amoled screen for their prototypes 2 months ago, they certainly isn't going to have it now to mass produce millions for the public.
I'm pretty sure Sprint thought about it but the production cost just doesn't make sense.
The TFT 4.3 screen are readily available and Sprint need to sell this phone as cheap as possible.
I really do think the price point now a day is $199 for superphone.
If Sprint price it higher than that, they are making a huge mistake.
 

CTrain

Diamond Member
Sep 26, 2001
4,940
0
0
The Incredible is a nice phone but I wouldn't get it unless I was stuck on Verizon service.
EVO is hands down a better phone on a much cheaper service.
I have had Sprint for 8 yrs and never had a problem.
Their 3G is pretty decent.
When I travel, I use it to tether to my laptop and I get service everywhere.
 

randomlinh

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
20,846
2
0
linh.wordpress.com
I used to think that way too but don't judge unless you have played with the HD2.
I have had the HD2 for a month now and the screen is gorgeous.
Its just gorgeous even though its not AMOLED.
Its not like its AMOLED vs iphone screen.
The HD2 screen is gorgeous enough to where it shouldn't be a deciding factor.

I've been meaning to find an HD2 to play with, but I don't come across tmobile stores much, only the kiosks that never have anything. But good to know.
 

Narmer

Diamond Member
Aug 27, 2006
5,292
0
0
What makes the Evo so much better? Aren't the specs basically similar except for 4G on the Evo?
 

Brian Stirling

Diamond Member
Feb 7, 2010
3,964
2
0
Evo's screen is bigger, but it's a lesser quality screen than what is in the Incredible. Faster data speeds only when you're in a 4G Sprint area, which isn't going to be very likely much of the time. Verizon will get you 3G speeds more often than Sprint will.

On what do you base the statement that the larger screen of the Evo is of lower quality?


Brian
 

boomhower

Diamond Member
Sep 13, 2007
7,228
19
81
On what do you base the statement that the larger screen of the Evo is of lower quality?


Brian

4G is the big difference tech wise, plus the HDMI out and front facing camera. So quite a bit. Of course the giant screen is the other draw, regardless of quality. If TV's have shown us anything the general population prefers size over quality.
 

dguy6789

Diamond Member
Dec 9, 2002
8,558
3
76
I've heard pros and cons for both types of LCD display with some saying that AMOLED is not as good in sunlight.


Brian

CRT -> LCD -> OLED. OLED isn't as easy to see in direct sunlight(has not proven to be a real problem for me) but everything about the picture(colors, brightness, contrast, viewing angles) is significantly superior.
 

Bullhonkie

Golden Member
Sep 28, 2001
1,899
0
76
I would actually prefer a well done LCD display to the still rough first-gen OLED display (at least in the N1/Incredible incarnation). The obvious difficulties in direct sunlight aside, there are actually a host of other issues with the OLED display used on the N1 that people don't seem to talk about much.

See here: http://www.displaymate.com/Nexus_Droid_ShootOut.htm

The Droid's display has an almost perfect sRGB color gamut, close to reference gamma curve, and near 6500 K color temperature. That sets up graphics to be displayed as intended in terms of color and contrast ramping. The Droid's display wins in almost every other measurable display quality/performance metric--aside from viewing angle and black levels at high brightness which is a clear win for OLED because of its emissive properties (no backlighting).

The actual/real usable resolution of the N1's OLED display is less than the stated 800x480 because each pixel on the display lacks its own red, green and blue sub-pixel. When comparing text side by side on my Droid and a friend's N1, the text on the Droid is cleaner and sharper looking due to better sub-pixel anti-aliasing. In fact when you look at text on the N1 display at a close enough distance, you can make out individual pixels with the naked eye. On the Droid this was never the case until we actually put it under a magnifying glass. Ars has a good write-up about this here: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...nexus-ones-screen-science-color-and-hacks.ars

My friend and I have spent hours and hours comparing our phones and the longer we've had our phones, the more we've agreed that the Droid's display is easily the superior one. Colors aren't hyper saturated as on the N1's OLED, which tends to exaggerate red/orange tones the most, leading to pictures of everyone looking like they've had a few too many drinks. In other cases, colors appear where they shouldn't in some grayscale areas, and banding is clearly evident in just about every gradient. Of course to the general masses and untrained eye, hyper saturated colors probably makes the display seem a lot better than it really is. It's somewhat akin to TVs being shown in 'torch mode' at your local Best Buy--most people think that actually looks good until they're shown what a properly calibrated TV should look like.

In my opinion--and that of my N1 owning friend--the black levels are great, everything else is just passable, direct sunlight usage is out of the question, and the hyper saturated colors are quickly tiring on the N1. The biggest thing is that he's slowly getting tired of the N1 display while I find it an absolute pleasure to use the Droid's display and that sentiment only grows stronger every day. Hopefully the next generation of OLED displays won't skimp on the sub-pixels and will get the colors issues under control.
 

preslove

Lifer
Sep 10, 2003
16,754
63
91
From what I've read about actual, REAL WORLD functioning, current LCD >>>>>>>>>>> current AMOLED.
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |