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Deeko

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Eh, by Patriots fans standards Brady choked. He might have played a good game, but when it counted, he threw a pick. They've been saying for years that even if Peyton had a 100 QB rating, if his team lost, he choked. Now they can eat their own words.
 

Reckoner

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Eh, by Patriots fans standards Brady choked. He might have played a good game, but when it counted, he threw a pick. They've been saying for years that even if Peyton had a 100 QB rating, if his team lost, he choked. Now they can eat their own words.

There was 30 seconds left in the game, Brady had to force the issue. Hardly circumstances that would warrant "choking"
 

Deeko

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Hey, I agree he played a good game and it was impressive he got them as close as he did....but by your OWN STANDARDS that you've applied to Peyton year in and year out, he choked. Also, the "choke artist" Manning engineering a beautiful last minute drive and won it, despite having relatively poor numbers throughout the game.

Just sayin
 

Jawo

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The Pats finally lost! THANK GOODNESS!

I will actually watch the Super Bowl now for more than just the ads!
 

NL5

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Originally posted by: Perknose
I'm NO fan of Brady and NE, but the peeps saying Brady choked need to get a clue.

That was one fine game. I'm happy for Manning. But he'll still have his own horde of clueless detractors until/unless he wins the whole enchilada.

When Brady goes 59 minutes before Indy is ahead, I wouldn't call that choking.

Manning blew the first half - he was well on his way to a classic Manning choke - but he stepped up, and played a hell of a second half. It was anybody's game down to the wire, 3 minutes into the second half.

 

BUTCH1

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It seemed that indy's secondary was waiting to jump those short routes in the second
half, the possession before the final pick, the 3rd down play almost got picke'd as well
a little more imagination buy the Pat's offence might have helped at that point. All in all
a great game congrats to the colts team and fans and please, crush the Bears in the bowl..
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: NL5
Originally posted by: Perknose
I'm NO fan of Brady and NE, but the peeps saying Brady choked need to get a clue.

That was one fine game. I'm happy for Manning. But he'll still have his own horde of clueless detractors until/unless he wins the whole enchilada.

When Brady goes 59 minutes before Indy is ahead, I wouldn't call that choking.

Manning blew the first half - he was well on his way to a classic Manning choke - but he stepped up, and played a hell of a second half. It was anybody's game down to the wire, 3 minutes into the second half.

manning picked it up in the 2nd half of the 2nd quarter. he choked first quarter but did pretty well after that.

he only threw one TD but he did run one in.

Manning deserves some credit for this win.
 

Jmman

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: NL5
Originally posted by: Perknose
I'm NO fan of Brady and NE, but the peeps saying Brady choked need to get a clue.

That was one fine game. I'm happy for Manning. But he'll still have his own horde of clueless detractors until/unless he wins the whole enchilada.

When Brady goes 59 minutes before Indy is ahead, I wouldn't call that choking.

Manning blew the first half - he was well on his way to a classic Manning choke - but he stepped up, and played a hell of a second half. It was anybody's game down to the wire, 3 minutes into the second half.

manning picked it up in the 2nd half of the 2nd quarter. he choked first quarter but did pretty well after that.

he only threw one TD but he did run one in.

Manning deserves some credit for this win.

He deserves some credit for the win? He threw for 350 yards!!

 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: Deeko
Eh, by Patriots fans standards Brady choked. He might have played a good game, but when it counted, he threw a pick. They've been saying for years that even if Peyton had a 100 QB rating, if his team lost, he choked. Now they can eat their own words.

There was 30 seconds left in the game, Brady had to force the issue. Hardly circumstances that would warrant "choking"

With 30 seconds left and needing a touchdown, playing it safe isnt in the playbook....

 

Legendary

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I think the stat was that Brady had 20ish game winning drives since 2001, to lead the NFL, so by his standard/ability, he definitely underperformed, if not choked.
 

FreshPrince

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Originally posted by: Legendary
I think the stat was that Brady had 20ish game winning drives since 2001, to lead the NFL, so by his standard/ability, he definitely underperformed, if not choked.

I disagree.

Pats have a strong run game this year with the addition of Maroney and therefore they did not need Brady to throw as much. if anyone choked, it's the pats coaching staff for not running the ball more and managing time better. oh ya, that and caldwell dropping 2 easy passes....he really should be kicked off the team. I wonder how the pats would do if they would've commited with Doug Gabriel and given him a chance to develop on that team. they guy has mad talents, but I guess he never clicked with Brady.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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Everyone who is saying that Brady choked is out of their freaking minds. Brady has always done what is required of him in playoff games. His teammates let him down with dropped passes and stupid penalties that cost them dearly near the end. He played very well today and has nothing to be ashamed of.

The Colts played one hell of an inspired game in the second half. I tip my hat to them and am glad that Peyton finally got the proverbial monkey off his back.
 

siyan

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Originally posted by: Tangerines
Originally posted by: ballmode
Bellicheck looked mad

Bellicheck always looks mad. When the Pats were up 21-3, Bellicheck looked mad.

Correction: Belichick always looks mad, as well as homeless. Did anyone else see that dirty Patriots hoodie with the sleeves cut off?
 

FreshPrince

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Everyone who is saying that Brady choked is out of their freaking minds. Brady has always done what is required of him in playoff games. His teammates let him down with dropped passes and stupid penalties that cost them dearly near the end. He played very well today and has nothing to be ashamed of.

The Colts played one hell of an inspired game in the second half. I tip my hat to them and am glad that Peyton finally got the proverbial monkey off his back.

still need to win another game to get that monkey off his back
 

Childs

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This should be a national holiday. I didnt think I'd live to see the day when the Pats didn't pull that Brady voodoo bull$hit and win in the last minute! To think I almost turned off the game in disgust at 21-3. Michigan and Ohio State lose, and now the Pats....what a great year 2007 is turning out to be.
 

brikis98

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man, that was painful to watch. i cannot believe the pats blew the 21-3 lead. as a pats fan, i'm of course looking for things to blame - blowing the chance to put the game away very early when it was 21-3 by taking several stupid penalties in a row (4th and 27 = punt), half the team fighting the flu, stupid pass interference call against the pats, stupid no call against the colts, caldwell dropping passes like a moron, pats abandoning the running game (again) - but the reality is that the colts just wanted it more and played harder from the 2nd quarter onwards. everything the pats did, all the chances they had, they just didn't play it with the same intensity and heart they usually do. the colts fought as hard as i've ever seen them and flat out deserved the win. that's really all there is to it, in my opinion.

as much as i hate manning and think he's completely overrated - in no small part due to his (former) inability to perform when it mattered - he played a terrific game (first quarter aside) and picked apart the pats D. i was expecting to see his usually cry-baby face (esp after the pats went up 21-3), but he stayed determined and led an impressive comeback. brady played well too - in fact, it's hard to really put any blame on him. he put his team in a fantastic position to win, played fairly mistake free the whole game (although that can't be said of some of his receivers) and still found himself down 4 points with 56 seconds to go. the fact he couldn't pull off a miracle (again) does NOT make it a choke job. if he missed some super easy play or made very stupid decisions through out - as peyton had in many of his important games before - that would be choking. not being able to pull of ~70 yard touchdown drive with less than one minute is actually quite normal.
 

herkulease

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its not a choke. But Brady shouldn't be too sad but maybe a bit, I'm sure Gisele Bundchen is waiting for him. She'll cheer him up.
 

ebeattie

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Congrats Indy! Great game played against the Pats, and we Bears fans look forward to playing you in the Super Bowl!

GO BEARS!!!!!!
 
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