IND, 2006 AFC Champs, SUPERBOWL XLI, congrats!

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: NL5

Originally posted by: ballmode
It's because they aren't Colts fans.

Shame.

I thinks it's because they ARE Colts fans.

San Diego was a much better team than Indy in almost every conceivable way. No, they were better in every way (I was going to give Indy the benefit of having a better quarterback, but PM is a first 2/3 of the season QB, after that, he is barely mediocre). SD was the best team in the NFL this year. Guess what? NE beat them on their home field. Do you really think Indy stands a BETTER chance? Can you seriously bet against Brady/Bellacheck?

ATOT is Indy crazy.

Please note that they were also Michigan Crazy as well. At least that game was close. LOL.

You got to be joking right?. You're putting Philip Rivers, a guy that is pretty much a rookie higher than Peyton? How do you even figure Peyton to be a first 2/3 of a season QB?
For the month of december(last 5 games of the season) Peyton completes 66%(118/178) of his passes, 10 tds + 3ints for 1433 yards. Rivers in the same time completes only 54%(69/129), 7tds + 3 ints for 948 yards.

Heck for the last few season Peyton on average puts up about 1000 yards and completes 65% of his passes in the last few games of the season. Now if you say he's poor player during the playoffs I'll agree with you on that.

 

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Is it Sunday yet? I'm pumped for this game.

Not but we're almost there. only two more days to go well closer to 3. about 69 hours

 

[ballmode]

Haters talking, lets go Colts. We all know what the pats can do in the superbowl, what can the Colts do?

 

[IAteYourMother]

I say Colts.

 

[dmw16]

you cant overlook all the pats playoff experience. and someone said that the pats got trounced by indy earlier in the season...it was 1 TD.

home or away makes little difference to the pats. they beat the chargers and they were 8-0 at home...pats are 8-1 on the road. it will be a good game, but there is no way the colts are a shoe in...especially given Mannings choke-artist tendencies.

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: dmw16
you cant overlook all the pats playoff experience. and someone said that the pats got trounced by indy earlier in the season...it was 1 TD.

While I see what you mean, Manning was clearly the better QB that day.

 

[Tommouse]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: dmw16
you cant overlook all the pats playoff experience. and someone said that the pats got trounced by indy earlier in the season...it was 1 TD.

While I see what you mean, Manning was clearly the better QB that day.

Oh he was indeed. I remember watching quite well, was psyched every play and after about 1 second of the rush not getting to him it became fear as I knew he would find someone. Almost every time he would get a second or two to check the field he would find someone for 10-15 yards at a time. Was so hard to watch. That said we only lost by a 1 TD, which was before our offense really matured (Brady getting to know all his new WRs). So if indy's D doesn't show we can run on them. If Peyton chokes again, even with good D we should be able to win. As long as it doesn't come down to a FG in the last minute and Indy having the ball

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: dmw16
you cant overlook all the pats playoff experience. and someone said that the pats got trounced by indy earlier in the season...it was 1 TD.

While I see what you mean, Manning was clearly the better QB that day.

As a Patriots fan, I will agree that Manning played out of his mind in that game this year.

The whole game I was amazed at how on he was. That said, I haven't seen him put that kind of display (in the games that I watched) since. So unless he just goes nuts again, I feel good about the Patriots chances (and considering they were still in it last time despite all the turnovers and Manning playing like a monster).

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: Tommouse

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: dmw16
you cant overlook all the pats playoff experience. and someone said that the pats got trounced by indy earlier in the season...it was 1 TD.

While I see what you mean, Manning was clearly the better QB that day.

Oh he was indeed. I remember watching quite well, was psyched every play and after about 1 second of the rush not getting to him it became fear as I knew he would find someone. Almost every time he would get a second or two to check the field he would find someone for 10-15 yards at a time. Was so hard to watch. That said we only lost by a 1 TD, which was before our offense really matured (Brady getting to know all his new WRs). So if indy's D doesn't show we can run on them. If Peyton chokes again, even with good D we should be able to win. As long as it doesn't come down to a FG in the last minute and Indy having the ball

A FG attempt to win the game by Indy would be classic (thank god Vanderhack is gone)! Indy's running game and D have really improved since the regular season because of Sanders returning to the lineup. I also look to Freeney to have a big day. I just think it is going to be an unbelievable game and will decide the SB winner.

Quick question: why is it always described as Indy wins or Peyton loses? While he is the QB it just seems a little biased. Like against the Steelers last season the o-line gave him no time to throw but it was PM's fault. Oh well, I've been watching him since '94 and it's always been the same thing.

 

[ballmode]

It's going to be loud that night.

 

[Rob9874]

Manning vs. Brady. We all know Brady has the 3 rings ot Manning's 0. But as productive QBs, stats, who's better? (I know, stats don't mean anything without Super Bowls wins, but this is interesting.)

Seasons:
Manning: 9
Brady: 6 (plus a season when he played 1 game)

4000 yd seasons:
Manning: 7 (each over 4130 yds)
Brady: 1 (4110)

26+ TD seasons:
Manning: 9 (100%)
Brady: 3 (50%)

30+ TD seasons:
Manning: 3 (including the NFL record 49)
Brady: 0

65%+ seasons:
Manning: 5 (last 5 seasons)
Brady: 0 (best season was his first at 63.9%)

100+ QB rating seasons:
Manning: 3 (last 3 seasons)
Brady: 0 (only broke 88 twice)

As long as Manning can get 3 rings in his career (7 years left?), it would be no question who the better QB is.

 

[NinjaGnome]

i just tied it up by going for the colts. dont really care who wins here though.

 

[Tommouse]

Originally posted by: Rob9874
Manning vs. Brady. We all know Brady has the 3 rings ot Manning's 0. But as productive QBs, stats, who's better? (I know, stats don't mean anything without Super Bowls wins, but this is interesting.)

Seasons:
Manning: 9
Brady: 6 (plus a season when he played 1 game)

4000 yd seasons:
Manning: 7 (each over 4130 yds)
Brady: 1 (4110)

26+ TD seasons:
Manning: 9 (100%)
Brady: 3 (50%)

30+ TD seasons:
Manning: 3 (including the NFL record 49)
Brady: 0

65%+ seasons:
Manning: 5 (last 5 seasons)
Brady: 0 (best season was his first at 63.9%)

100+ QB rating seasons:
Manning: 3 (last 3 seasons)
Brady: 0 (only broke 88 twice)

As long as Manning can get 3 rings in his career (7 years left?), it would be no question who the better QB is.

There are very different philosophies between the Pats and Colts. The Pats normally have a controlled/possession passing game and sometimes a decent run game. This more conservative style of throwing lends itself to less yards and less points. The Colts also pay money to have good receivers, the Pats do not. That definitely helps the Colts, I wish the Pats would pay some money to get a good WR (draft this year plz plz plz).

As you stated stats don't convey the whole picture (actually you didn't say that, but that's what I think ). I think the stats are heavily influenced by the systems employed by each team. These two are probably the best two in the league right now, and definetly first ballow hall of famers.

 

[ballmode]

HATERS on the Colts


damn

 

[ballmode]

It's only fitting that the colts have to go through faggots before going to the bowl.

 

[ballmode]

nothing gets me harder than some hot chick with a huge @$$ wearing some obscure jersey........not manning or harrison etc

but something along the lines as BOB SANDERS!

 

[yosuke188]

Originally posted by: Tommouse

Originally posted by: Rob9874
Manning vs. Brady. We all know Brady has the 3 rings ot Manning's 0. But as productive QBs, stats, who's better? (I know, stats don't mean anything without Super Bowls wins, but this is interesting.)

Seasons:
Manning: 9
Brady: 6 (plus a season when he played 1 game)

4000 yd seasons:
Manning: 7 (each over 4130 yds)
Brady: 1 (4110)

26+ TD seasons:
Manning: 9 (100%)
Brady: 3 (50%)

30+ TD seasons:
Manning: 3 (including the NFL record 49)
Brady: 0

65%+ seasons:
Manning: 5 (last 5 seasons)
Brady: 0 (best season was his first at 63.9%)

100+ QB rating seasons:
Manning: 3 (last 3 seasons)
Brady: 0 (only broke 88 twice)

As long as Manning can get 3 rings in his career (7 years left?), it would be no question who the better QB is.

There are very different philosophies between the Pats and Colts. The Pats normally have a controlled/possession passing game and sometimes a decent run game. This more conservative style of throwing lends itself to less yards and less points. The Colts also pay money to have good receivers, the Pats do not. That definitely helps the Colts, I wish the Pats would pay some money to get a good WR (draft this year plz plz plz).

As you stated stats don't convey the whole picture (actually you didn't say that, but that's what I think ). I think the stats are heavily influenced by the systems employed by each team. These two are probably the best two in the league right now, and definetly first ballow hall of famers.

Seriously. What kind of number would Brady put up if he had Harrison on one side and Wayne on the other plus that O-line? I would think close to Peyton's numbers, if not better.

Then again, it's really pointless to argue who has the better system and all that. The facts are that Peyton has better numbers in the regular season, but Brady steps up in the playoffs (except a couple bad games ) plus he has 3 SB rings.

 

[Rob9874]

So we can discredit Manning's better career stats, because it's mainly due to his cast around him. However, Brady gets all the credit for the 3 Super Bowls. I can just as easily say that Manning would have 3 rings if he had played on those NE teams.

 

[Rob9874]

Originally posted by: ballmode
nothing gets me harder than some hot chick with a huge @$$ wearing some obscure jersey........not manning or harrison etc

but something along the lines as BOB SANDERS!

Because it shows she knows her football, or because she's so cheap, she got the 50% off jersey, and didn't care about whose name was on it?

 

[Aquila76]

Originally posted by: ballmode
It's only fitting that the colts have to go through faggots before going to the bowl.

What does their pre-game ritual have to do with this? And of course after that they'd need a toilet; if their chutes get stretched, all that turd has to go somewhere.

 

[thegimp03]

Peyton is going to sh*t the bed again and NE will win imo. Face it, Tom Brady is a clutch player and has a ton of experience in games like these.

 

[LouPoir]

Go Pats

 

[FreshPrince]

PATS fans should be worried....flu going around the locker room

 

[NL5]

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: NL5

Originally posted by: ballmode
It's because they aren't Colts fans.

Shame.

I thinks it's because they ARE Colts fans.

San Diego was a much better team than Indy in almost every conceivable way. No, they were better in every way (I was going to give Indy the benefit of having a better quarterback, but PM is a first 2/3 of the season QB, after that, he is barely mediocre). SD was the best team in the NFL this year. Guess what? NE beat them on their home field. Do you really think Indy stands a BETTER chance? Can you seriously bet against Brady/Bellacheck?

ATOT is Indy crazy.

Please note that they were also Michigan Crazy as well. At least that game was close. LOL.

You got to be joking right?. You're putting Philip Rivers, a guy that is pretty much a rookie higher than Peyton? How do you even figure Peyton to be a first 2/3 of a season QB?
For the month of december(last 5 games of the season) Peyton completes 66%(118/178) of his passes, 10 tds + 3ints for 1433 yards. Rivers in the same time completes only 54%(69/129), 7tds + 3 ints for 948 yards.

Heck for the last few season Peyton on average puts up about 1000 yards and completes 65% of his passes in the last few games of the season. Now if you say he's poor player during the playoffs I'll agree with you on that.

Ohhh. I'm sorry, I thought PM's passer rating was lower than Rivers, but he is vastly superior to him.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/PRAT/2006/post

:roll:

 

[BUTCH1]

The patriots are like the Borg in postseason play, they find your weakness and
exploit it...If Indy falls behind at all in this game the pressure will mount and they
will play tight. If they get a large early lead they can beat the Pats.