That is easy. Congress impeaches him. He will have become toxic, so his demise is assured.
What is the SC gonna do? break down the FEMA compounds with their old selves? Enforcing the law is up to the president not SC justices and when SHTF President will ignore them anyway and has before in American History.
That is easy. Congress impeaches him. He will have become toxic, so his demise is assured.
Congress is the one's passing this and increasingly turning the Constitution into a piece of burning parchment why would they impeach a president who is enacting their laws?
"Citizens who are suspected of joining Al Qaeda are opening themselves up 'to imprisonment and death ... And when they say, "I want my lawyer," you tell them: "Shut up. You don't get a lawyer. You are an enemy combatant, and we are going to talk to you about why you joined Al Qaeda."'"
Besides what's quoted in the OP, Lindsey Graham also had this remarkable thing to say:
/boggle. Did this clown actually mean to say this?
The public would cry foul and they would fear their reelection chances.
One of the benefits of having a polarized congress is that you can be assured the opposing part to the President will make it a huge deal. They would not even need to put in any spin, the truth will be bad enough.
Unless everyone is going to write in new members on the ballot . Nothing changes your still stuck with people that are in the pocket of greed. Stop being a REP or a DEM . Try being Americans for a change . NOT obummer change.
If Obama promised to veto it, you can be sure he will sign it. He has a history of promising the exact opposite of what he actually does.
Proof? Where proof means metrics comparing Obama with previous Presidents (Bush Jr, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, Nixon) who promised to vote a particular way. Since you've singled out Obama on this basis, you obviously have data to back up your claim.
http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa...ror-is-nearer-than-ever-2011-12#ixzz1gZJEkcya
So... Why is this not being talked about more? We've seen with the patriot act that it's not used for terrorists, it's used for citizens. Why aren't more people talking about this being the same thing?
Are we really going to just sit and watch due process be done away with?
I haven't read this whole thread, but my guess is, most people are outraged about this.
And yet, of the presidential candidates, a lot of you turn a blind eye to the one candidate that would put a stop to bullshit like this.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s1867es/pdf/BILLS-112s1867es.pdf
Why is this f'ing thing 900 pages?
Who has read it? How many people voted on it without reading it?
Proof? Where proof means metrics comparing Obama with previous Presidents (Bush Jr, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, Nixon) who promised to vote a particular way. Since you've singled out Obama on this basis, you obviously have data to back up your claim.
Congress is the one's passing this and increasingly turning the Constitution into a piece of burning parchment why would they impeach a president who is enacting their laws?
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s1867es/pdf/BILLS-112s1867es.pdf
Why is this f'ing thing 900 pages?
Who has read it? How many people voted on it without reading it?
Why does Obama support this? Wasn't he a huge critic of gitmo?
Fuck Obama, I didn't vote for him but was at least glad to know that we were getting a President that would stand up for our civil liberties against the growing police state. Looks like it was nothing but lip service.
If a legislator is sitting down and reading laws like this, they are not doing their job. That is the entire reason they have a staff. Does the CEO of a company sit down and read through every page of every manual? Of course not. They have better things to do, and they pay people to do exactly that.
I appreciate that you may suggest I'm pro obamacare without me posting anything of the sort... but any legislation that is TLDR needs to be broken way down.
That is a lot of stuff to cover...and yet it is still smaller than the Obamacare bill...
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What is there job exactly? What should they be doing aside from reading and voting on legislation?
They are there to vote bills into law. If they're all so convoluted that they run 900 pages and they have to have somebody else play telephone with them to decide if they're voting, that's even worse than them just not reading it.
I don't think you've thought this all the way through.
Oh I did.. Legislation shouldn't be so stretched out and convoluted. We all know that it's a business as usual practice to hide legislation inside of other legislation for the simple fact that they can get away with it.
That, and if anybody voting on this were serving constituents, they wouldn't vote such a thing in.