India hangs terrorist

davmat787

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India and Elephants Fun Fact: Executions in India used to be performed by trained elephants. The usual, but not only, manner is depicted here below.

Hell, India might have been doing this asshole a favor by executing him, assuming the alternative is life without chance of parole in an Indian prison.

 
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Acanthus

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That one probably needed to happen, even with capital punishment frowned upon by the general populace there.

Although there is always the double-edged sword of martyrdom.

Is there a way in their beliefs to prevent them from going to heaven? Inject them with pigs blood or something equally unclean?

I am of course speaking only for the insane extremists that shoot up buildings full of innocent people.
 

randomrogue

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I don't understand why they executed him (and I was in Mumbai during the attacks). Their prisons are so terrible that it would have made much more sense to just let him spend the rest of his days in one.
 

Braznor

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The government spent 7 million dollars to keep him isolated and protected from the other prisoners.
 

randomrogue

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The government spent 7 million dollars to keep him isolated and protected from the other prisoners.

Why?

7 million dollars in India is an incredible sum of money. That would be like us spending a 500 million dollars to protect Jeffrey Daumer. Why would anyone do that?
 

Braznor

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His last words were, 'Allah kasam, aisi ghalati dobara nahi hogi (I swear by Allah, I will never commit such a wrong again)

I have mixed feelings on death penalty for this guy myself. He was crucial witness to Pakistan's complicity in sponsoring terror and it seems he reformed too. In the ultimate scheme of things, he was just a foot soldier, a mere cog in the machinery of death that is terrorism. It is possible that he could have done a lot more good by preaching the lesson of his life to other wayward men than any benefit we gained by executing him.

We could have had an reformed criminal as an example to others, instead we gave a martyr to the cause of the monsters who controlled him.
 

Braznor

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Why?

7 million dollars in India is an incredible sum of money. That would be like us spending a 500 million dollars to protect Jeffrey Daumer. Why would anyone do that?


The government could not risk any possible attempt his fellow terrorists may make to free him. They needed to make sure the possibility of his escape is zero and send that message across to anyone who would try to free him.

It is such a huge bill, both our center (national government) and state govt. (provincial) are fighting over trying to decide who will foot that bill.
 

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His last words were, 'Allah kasam, aisi ghalati dobara nahi hogi (I swear by Allah, I will never commit such a wrong again)

I have mixed feelings on death penalty for this guy myself. He was crucial witness to Pakistan's complicity in sponsoring terror and it seems he reformed too. In the ultimate scheme of things, he was just a foot soldier, a mere cog in the machinery of death that is terrorism. It is possible that he could have done a lot more good by preaching the lesson of his life to other wayward men than any benefit we gained by executing him.

We could have had an reformed criminal as an example to others, instead we gave a martyr to the cause of the monsters who controlled him.

I'm actually 100% against the death penalty, but I don't agree with what you've said. Reformation or not, you should answer for your crimes as per the law of the land, and he did.
 

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I'm actually 100% against the death penalty, but I don't agree with what you've said. Reformation or not, you should answer for your crimes as per the law of the land, and he did.

I think you'd beg to differ if the laws were crazy like they are in some places. In some countries there are serious penalties for women driving, masturbation, and sodomy.

Either way if he could have escaped the money was well spent politically speaking. It's just such a ridiculous sum of money to protect one jackass.
 

Braznor

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I'm actually 100% against the death penalty, but I don't agree with what you've said. Reformation or not, you should answer for your crimes as per the law of the land, and he did.

I agree this guy was a mass murderer. But forgive me for thinking this man could have done a lot more good by becoming a living example of repentance. This guy is not an exception in my part of the world, but rather a stereotypical case. It is not just Muslims or Islamic terrorism, India has plenty of other terrorists like Maoist insurgents, Hindu rioters (shiv sena), the LTTE remnants (tamil secular) and even Christian terror (Baptists)

When it comes to brands of terror, India is the Walmart. But India also has a good record for beating Pakistan sponsored insurgencies. Sikh (Khalistan) terrorists was uprooted completely and Kashmir is still normal no matter the fact that Pakistan still sponsors terror across our borders.

One of the key factors of Indian victory is criminal reformation. India allows even kashmiri insurgents to surrender their weapons and live normal lives under supervision of the security agencies. Many of these people have truly reformed and have probably prevented a thousand 'Kasab' already. Thats why I believe this death penalty was a mistake, no matter how bad the original crime is. I'm not asking anyone to pardon him though, I just wish the death penalty wasn't given to him. His name would have been better served as a symbol of defeat than the martyrdom the terrorists will make of his death.
 

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Is there a way in their beliefs to prevent them from going to heaven? Inject them with pigs blood or something equally unclean?

Yup, let them know they'll be buried with pigs and their corpses covered in pig blood if they die fighting us. It guarantees damnation.
 
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Yup, let them know they'll be buried with pigs and their corpses covered in pig blood if they die fighting us. It guarantees damnation.
yup. i vote for pissing on them the same way they try to piss on their victims.

if we do that though, when the next attack that happens, guarantee an apology tour...
 

Braznor

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India has different categories of prisons for different types of prisoners. This does ensure stratification as both, the benign and the misused privileged sense.
Prisoners are categorized as : Uneducated, graduates or Political. Political is the highest class as usual and will get you a room with TV, computers and stuff.
Graduates and uneducated are treated differently. They are separated into two groups, further divided on the nature of their crime.

Now while Indian prisons are very bad in terms of hygiene (in smaller prisons), there is not all that much incidents of sexual attacks or murders compared to prisons in the other parts of the world. Prison murders and other incidents are usually given full coverage in our media.

Also India has a very very low percentage of its population confined in prisons as compared to other countries. This is an advantage we gained by not privatizing our prison industry.

By global standards India locks few people up, whether rich or poor. Some 370,000 inmates (two-thirds awaiting trial) are spread across nearly 1,400 jails. That represents barely 30 in prison per 100,000 people, a far lower incarceration rate than in China (170), let alone America (730).

http://www.economist.com/node/21554233
 

arrfep

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Yup, let them know they'll be buried with pigs and their corpses covered in pig blood if they die fighting us. It guarantees damnation.

There's a legend that some US General did that against Islamic guerrillas in the Philippines in the early 1900s. Supposedly led to an abrupt end in the terrorist attacks. Dunno the validity of the story, though.
 

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I will never understand Indian culture; it's so spiritual to revere the cow as a mother yet so barbaric to sanction the ritual slaughter of a human being. Good job India for stooping to the OP's misanthropic level.
 

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I will never understand Indian culture; it's so spiritual to revere the cow as a mother yet so barbaric to sanction the ritual slaughter of a human being. Good job India for stooping to the OP's misanthropic level.

let us see if you say the same after a terrorist shoots your parents in the head while begging for their life.

Tell your siblings that they are not gonna be harmed and then put against a wall and shot to death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s34koAajDQ

It must feel nice to preach ahimsa when your loved ones are not dying.
 

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let us see if you say the same after a terrorist shoots your parents in the head while begging for their life.

Tell your siblings that they are not gonna be harmed and then put against a wall and shot to death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s34koAajDQ

It must feel nice to preach ahimsa when your loved ones are not dying.

Apparently our "victim" here didn't got the memo that the best way to avoid punishment for being a terrorist mass murderer is...not be a terrorist mass murderer.

A logical concept that seems to be in short supply these days.
 

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india has now stooped to the same level as the u.s., china, iran, saudi arabia etc...
 
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