India Is Free Again!

[Whiskey16]

I am truly happy this day. I am so glad that many Indians, and specifically Hindus...
...
All the anti-Indians and anti-Hindus can lick ass and eat shit!

India is more than simply Hindus.

Hateful, supremacist, bigoted, divisive, and dehumanising shits such as yourself are the bane of India, societies such as this forum, and civilisation as a whole.

 

[Whiskey16]

And your not an extremist? You're nothing but a coward who hides behind his computer. You clearly have been teabagged too muchD:

Maybe your hero can get the people to use the washroom instead of taking a crap on the street along with using toilet paper

He is you. You're also a vile and disgusting troll who shares his equal hatred against Muslims.

 

[radhak]

Through and through nationalistic/racial/religious hate speech.

Classic hatred with slurs such as 'beloved patriot' through to dehumanising targeted groups as "rats" and "vermin."

No different as from the 1930s in Germany through to today.

This.

India is more than simply Hindus.

Hateful, supremacist, bigoted, divisive, and dehumanising shits such as yourself are the bane of India, societies such as this forum, and civilisation as a whole.

And this. Well said.
(And I may add, Hindus are more than such hate-spewing losers.)

Now that Narendra Modi has won the election, his - and India's - only hope is that he distances himself from such people and shows what real statesmanship is.

 

[jman19]

It is hilariously ironical that an untouchable, descended from diseased, illiterate vermin from Europe, talks about "culture" and "problems." LOL..

America, which is a fabricated entity with an even more fabricated sense of self-definition, typifies the notion you mentioned. Most Americans are too dense, myopic, and simply dumb to realize the problems with their country and society. They then have the nerve to lecture other countries - (dis)United States of Hypocrisy - is a more apt name for this land of miscegenated peasants from barbarian lands.

Further, Indians elected Modi - a pure-bred Indian to change the future of India. In all societies, it is a handful of really good people that create and cause true change. The momentum of that change is then carried on by the people. India has been ruled by dullards, criminals, and untouchables (starting with that Christian wise and beautiful woman).

Modi, a desh-bhakt (patriot) is a true son of India and will cause the sea change that it deserves.

Some of you morons should read Clash of Civilizations by Huntington. The "last bastion" of true freedom is really India. The rest of the world has been infested by Abrahamic scum (jews, christians, and muslims) and their retarded cousins (communists).

The mlecchas are terrified of Modi.

You're a hateful, racist troll. Congrats!

 

[DesiPower]

Say what you want, results are officially in, overwhelming majority which nobody though was possible, hasn't been done in 30 years. If you want to make a blanket statement and label the whole country racist, go ahead, that's your prerogative. But remember the country has more than 15% Muslims and they have a huge influence on politics, Modi could not have come to power without some of their support too.
Any India, with common sense can see though the stories and rumors spread against Modi about his involvement in Gujarat riots, he stopped international gangsters from taking over Gujarat after they had full control of Mumbai region. The poll results show that people of India, majority and minority alike were willing to ignore it.

 

[brycejones]

Say what you want, results are officially in, overwhelming majority which nobody though was possible, hasn't been done in 30 years. If you want to make a blanket statement and label the whole country racist, go ahead, that's your prerogative. But remember the country has more than 15% Muslims and they have a huge influence on politics, Modi could not have come to power without some of their support too.
Any India, with common sense can see though the stories and rumors spread against Modi about his involvement in Gujarat riots, he stopped international gangsters from taking over Gujarat after they had full control of Mumbai region. The poll results show that people of India, majority and minority alike were willing to ignore it.

I don't think anyone is saying the whole country is racist or bigoted. But some of the posters in this thread are certainly bigots. I know and work with many Indians and none of them spout the vile crap that has been posted in this thread.

 

[inf1nity]

So in another words, Afghanistan was NEVER an integral part of India. Temporary occupation 1000+ years ago is just that, insignificant and utterly meaningless, especially compared to the amount of time India was overrun for centuries. And you failed to address my original point: The prosperous India the OP is so proud of was maintained by foreign Muslims, not Hindus. The Taj Mahal you guys are so proud of was also built by them.

https://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100430100828AAl9NqJ
http://www.quora.com/Geography/Was-Afghanistan-ever-a-part-of-India

The second part of statement is laughable too. Those "foreign muslims" looted far more than they contributed.

Have you ever been to India? Do you think that Taj mahal is the only monument in india? Here, read this-

http://goindia.about.com/od/topdestinations/tp/south-indian-temples.htm

And Pakistani? Fuck no.

Sorry but your posts suggests otherwise. your blind hatred for India and everything indian tells me that your either a Pakistani or one of those western liberals with their head up their ass who think that India is nothing except the slums they show in movies.

 

[DesiPower]

So in another words, Afghanistan was NEVER an integral part of India. Temporary occupation 1000+ years ago is just that, insignificant and utterly meaningless, especially compared to the amount of time India was overrun for centuries. And you failed to address my original point: The prosperous India the OP is so proud of was maintained by foreign Muslims, not Hindus. The Taj Mahal you guys are so proud of was also built by them.

And Pakistani? Fuck no.

Must be the twilight zone or something cuz I'm agreeing and laughing alongside Incorruptible.

They plundered and destroyed several monuments and historical sites and made only one, not to mention the genocides. And Indians MANY Indians are not exactly "proud of" Taj Mahal. Since foreigners know of this only thing about India and we don't want to be impolite, so we just agree with them.

 

[uOpt]

Did he say more specifically how he wants to address corruption?

IMHO that is the key. If you can't dampen it it will eat up all other effort's improvements.

 

[DesiPower]

Did he say more specifically how he wants to address corruption?

IMHO that is the key. If you can't dampen it it will eat up all other effort's improvements.

People expect him to follow the Gujarat model and create job and be business friendly. For that corruption automatically have to be brought down, if govt has less control, corruption will be less. One cant really get its specifics about how he or she will bring down corruption, its a crime and you cant announce how you will catch criminals.

 

[Ns1]

Since foreigners know of this only thing about India and we don't want to be impolite, so we just agree with them.

what you really mean:

 

[uOpt]

One cant really get its specifics about how he or she will bring down corruption, its a crime and you cant announce how you will catch criminals.

What?

Well that seems to have been the approach since independence "trust us we will work on corruption - magically".

 

[DesiPower]

what you really mean:

Exactly, there you go

 

[DesiPower]

What?

Well that seems to have been the approach since independence "trust us we will work on corruption - magically".

yes, but some have the track record to back it up

 

[uOpt]

yes, but some have the track record to back it up

Can you be more specific?

All I ever see is picking some random guys and jail or execute them without ever fixing anything about the system.

 

[nixium]

I thought the conservatives here would be gleeful, this guy is their dream.

- Very pro business
- No pandering to minorities
- Against illegal immigration (mainly toward people he doesn't like)
- handily beat the party whose main election strategy was to give as many freebies as possible to the poor and minorities
- religious conservative

I'm guessing they don't because he's the wrong religion?

I'm liberal but India needs someone like this right now. The "liberal"/left wing party in India is basically useless and all they can do it minority pandering.

 

[uOpt]

I seriously doubt that the central government in India has enough power and reach to really make a difference in most of these areas on that agenda, especially corruption.

You can be more business friendly easily enough since that usually means weakening government regulations (the useful ones and the useless ones), less taxes (or better spend tax money as incentives) and throwing in a bit of protectionism (so that local business don't have to step up to be competitive).

We'll revisit this thread in 3 years.

 

[cyclohexane]

India is ungovernable as a democracy. It has too many different ethnic groups, with wildly divergent interests. Democracy in such a society results in crippling inaction as each group tries to get its own interests taken care of over the interests of the nation.

The only effective government for India is an authoritarian one, with a strong central government that is hopefully competent. We shall see how long the democratic experiment in India will last before India collapses into revolution.

 

[uOpt]

India is ungovernable as a democracy. It has too many different ethnic groups, with wildly divergent interests. Democracy in such a society results in crippling inaction as each group tries to get its own interests taken care of over the interests of the nation.

I don't think it has to be that way. This is a US centric view, in the US there is a block but it doesn't take ethnic groups to get it.

What is making India a really bad environment is corruption. Everything is set up so that there are people with conflicts of interest. And they are powerful enough that they can make it more so. Then all the smart people (those that don't leave the country) have pretty much no choice but to join the club and do the same thing. Self-accelerating problem.

I won't say that India couldn't use organizational improvements to give different regions more opportunity to do what is right for local voters, but I don't think it is the main problem by far.

 

[raildogg]

Free? That is a very, very relative term and is overused all the time. Freedom is a very relative word as well and is not to be used lightly. Unfortunately, it is.

As for this politician solving India's problems, that is impossible. He cannot change how people think. He cannot change how people perceive things. He cannot change their attitudes. All that is the responsibility of each person, me and you. No politician or leader can change that.

Also, I really find it interesting people bashing India in every India themed thread. I am going to assume that these are Western people who have never been to India. Either that or they feel the need to persuade others of how bad India is. Not sure why someone would waste their energy trying to convince others of silly things like this but that's their choice.

To the 5150joker, those so-called "statues" are very very ancient and have great meaning and significance to those who can see. Unfortunately, not even Hindus practice Hinduism anymore so the significance of the meaning is lost. But don't look at the Hindu statues with Western eyes, or even Indian eyes or you will miss the total message. These things are to be understood by those who know how to look. I don't know how to look either but this ancient religion has deep meaning and the various gods also have deep meaning. Not the meaning we are accustomed to.

To the OP, are you trying to attach yourself to what you consider to be a Hindu religion in order to persuade other people or something? Is that what a true Hindu would do? Would a true Hindu post a sacred image in front of a damn map? Would a true Hindu use the language you use?

I've said this before and will say it again, there is no Hinduism anymore. If there was, Indians would not be what they are. Same goes for Christianity or any other religion. These religions are now used for propaganda, personal gains, for personal convenience, etc. No real meaning at all.

 

[MasterOfUsers]

Through and through nationalistic/racial/religious hate speech.

Classic hatred with slurs such as 'beloved patriot' through to dehumanising targeted groups as "rats" and "vermin."

No different as from the 1930s in Germany through to today.

Son, beloved patriot isn't a derogatory term, it's the term for Indians, Pakistanians, Afghanis, pretty much anyone from that general area. Either that or Asians (which includes all arabs for some reason).

Everyone you boys would call asians over there are Chinese over here, doesn't matter what nation they are from, they are Chinese if you ask us.

 

[DesiPower]

Son, beloved patriot isn't a derogatory term, it's the term for Indians, Pakistanians, Afghanis, pretty much anyone from that general area. Either that or Asians (which includes all arabs for some reason).

Everyone you boys would call asians over there are Chinese over here, doesn't matter what nation they are from, they are Chinese if you ask us.

What the fuck, Indians are called beloved patriot? Really?? How about you keep your mouth shut, that way you will look not retarded.

 

[inf1nity]

What?

Well that seems to have been the approach since independence "trust us we will work on corruption - magically".

He said that he will reduce government interference. "minimum government, maximum governance" is his motto.

http://www.narendramodi.in/

http://www.narendramodi.in/minimum-government-maximum-governance/

he said that that he will bring back black money from Swiss banks and invest it into the country infrastructure. He also plans to give some money to the middle class people who honestly pay their taxes.

I agree with you, it remains to be senn whether he will actually do all that, but you need to remember-this election is quite different from all past ones. This is the first time in India's history that a non-Congress government has had an absolute majority. The last BJP-led government did not have a majority on their own and so they had to make lots of compromises to keep their allies satisfied.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_general_election,_1999
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Alliance_(India)

This is not the case this time. The BJP alone has a majority. Leave out the temporary allies, even if their ideology-based allies leave them, they will not need the support of anyone to stay in power. Therefore, we are hopeful that he will be able to take some hard, even if unpopular, decisions about various issues such as economy, national security, administrative reforms, corruption etc.

 

[inf1nity]

India is ungovernable as a democracy. It has too many different ethnic groups, with wildly divergent interests.

The only effective government for India is an authoritarian one, with a strong central government that is hopefully competent.

....Aaand yet, India has a stainless record in upholding democracy for the past 67 years. If it was so "ungovernable", democracy should've been overthrown by a military dictatorship by now, don't you think?

And yes i agree with the second part. That is a part of the appeal of this guy. He is known to be quite authoritative and dominant, exactly what India needs now, after a decade of a PM with no balls and a namby-pamby government. Now that he has been given a full majority, he is free to do whatever he wants to.

Democracy in such a society results in crippling inaction as each group tries to get its own interests taken care of over the interests of the nation.

So the US does not have lobbies?

We shall see how long the democratic experiment in India will last before India collapses into revolution.

 

[MasterOfUsers]

What the fuck, Indians are called beloved patriot? Really?? How about you keep your mouth shut, that way you will look not retarded.

In England everyone from the general area are either Pakis or asians.

Anyone from the orient is Chinese.

We don't care about your 3'rd world silly hangups on who hates who for what reason, it's irrelvant to us as long as you keep it in those sheitholes and don't take it with you.