Indian pseudo-MAFIA controls universities countrywide

[postmortemIA]

At my school, Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering, there are about 60% of Indian professors and graduate students.

Professors bring new abroad graduate students that receive scholarships and research/teaching jobs, while US citizens pay this through state and federal the taxes. There is about 7:1 to 10:1 ratio of applicants to admitted ones in graduate school, which means that there's enough domestic students to fill the available positions.

The procedure of getting into graduate school favors Asian groups more, because there is literature available in India that provides answers to GRE (standard graduate entrance exam) against rules of GRE and illegal in the US: that is questions and answers should not be shared after exam is taken. Also, in year 2002, GRE exams for China and India were nullified due to irregularities.

Then this pseudo-MAFIA with deep roots in high-tech corporations provides jobs for newly finished graduates.

Do you think that this process is against good of American people?

Disclaimer: Do not call me a bigot, I don't have anything against Indian people.

 

[Mo0o]

i would assume if they couldn't cut it they'd just flunk out anyways

 

[BoomerD]

Why are scholarships to US universities available to those who are NOT US citizens?

 

[postmortemIA]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Why are scholarships to US universities available to those who are NOT US citizens?

you won't like this, but they are treated as state residents if they are on assistantship (and all of them that come are on it), so they pay state rate, and PhD students get free tuition.

 

[Martin]

Yes, now tell us how competitive and jelous this Indian mafia is... :roll:

 

[jai6638]

hahaah.. I love how I've seen three threads on India in the last one week.. Oh well..

you won't like this, but they are treated as state residents if they are on assistantship (and all of them that come are on it), so they pay state rate, and PhD students get free tuition.

Interesting

 

[BoomerD]

Sadly, in many places illegal immigrants also get "in-state tuition"...

 

[Reel]

Originally posted by: Mo0o
i would assume if they couldn't cut it they'd just flunk out anyways

The Indians and Chinese students always welcomed their fellow countrymen into their homes when they were accepted to my grad school. It was common at the start of a semester to have 3 or 4 of them living in one apartment sleeping on the floor until they found a place to live. Additionally, they would give the new students a packet with old homeworks, projects, and exams and answer keys. All material for at least 10 years that they had available was given to the new arrivals. This material was not sanctioned by the school. It provided an edge over students of other nationalities that did not have access to these materials. Some professors deliberately ignored this situation. Some professors attempted to thwart it by making these materials available to all students. Others attempted to make the homework, exams, and projects differ by semester so that the materials were not as useful. Regardless it is a common problem and one the department was aware of but did not have the balls to take action against.

With that said, if they couldn't cut it, they would just work harder at memorizing the answers to old exams provided to them since it really minimized the actual learning necessary to get a degree.

 

[FilmCamera]

bigot

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Why are scholarships to US universities available to those who are NOT US citizens?

What does citizenship have to do with anything? I'm not seeing the connection between US universities and having to be a US citizen. Do you have to be a US citizen if I want to give you a gift of $1000?

 

[spanner]

There is no conspiracy/mafia here. The indian community seems infatuated with IT careers hence they all flock to it and you see more of them there. Also with international graduate school researchers and with H1-bs, they are more reliable if only for the fact that they are screwed if they lose it . My opinion is the solution is to adopt the skilled immigration programs that Australia, UK and Canada have adopted i.e green cards for professionals in areas where there is a shortage who then compete on equal footing once they are in the country. As for those who just don't wan't to compete for jobs with foreign nationals, suck it up and quit being cowards. In the end the one who gets the job should be the person best suited for it regardless of where they are born.

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: Reel

Originally posted by: Mo0o
i would assume if they couldn't cut it they'd just flunk out anyways

The Indians and Chinese students always welcomed their fellow countrymen into their homes when they were accepted to my grad school. It was common at the start of a semester to have 3 or 4 of them living in one apartment sleeping on the floor until they found a place to live. Additionally, they would give the new students a packet with old homeworks, projects, and exams and answer keys. All material for at least 10 years that they had available was given to the new arrivals. This material was not sanctioned by the school. It provided an edge over students of other nationalities that did not have access to these materials. Some professors deliberately ignored this situation. Some professors attempted to thwart it by making these materials available to all students. Others attempted to make the homework, exams, and projects differ by semester so that the materials were not as useful. Regardless it is a common problem and one the department was aware of but did not have the balls to take action against.

With that said, if they couldn't cut it, they would just work harder at memorizing the answers to old exams provided to them since it really minimized the actual learning necessary to get a degree.

Eek that is horrible

I was always under the impression without chinese and indian students our grad schools would be 1/2 empty

 

[VenomXTF]

It's not only GRE exam answers. It's the same thing with all the certification like CCNP, MCSE, MCPD, etc. They hand you the questions/answers to memorize before taking the test in India. Keep this in mind when hiring someone with a ton of "respected" certifications from India.

 

[RESmonkey]

Well, those that earn without 'cheating' deserve awards. Hey, at least they're trying in their lives to achieve. I look in my high school and all I see is potheads and gangstas.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

****** indos...need to go back to their camel jockeying. cheating on tests and fooling the system for their entire careers. it almost seems like they know what they are doing, but its all a scam.

 

[RollWave]

wow, this isnt some sort of weird generalization thread at all..

 

[athithi]

I spent all of my 'pissed off Indian' on the other thread What a pity! This was such a worthy candidate :laugh:

 

[panipoori]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
****** indos...need to go back to their camel jockeying. cheating on tests and fooling the system for their entire careers. it almost seems like they know what they are doing, but its all a scam.

Agree completely, those towelheads took my job, my home and my wife.


woe is me :/

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
Disclaimer: Do not call me a bigot, I don't have anything against Indian people.

:laugh:

I'm sorry, but all I can do is :laugh: at this one...

 

[Descartes]

Just asked my fiance (Indian), and she said she knows nothing of what you're talking about. She studied for the GRE just like everyone else. Even if there were such literature available, it's not like it wouldn't quickly become available to everyone else. The intarweb helps a little in this whole information sharing idea

 

[thesurge]

LOL! Affirmative action actually makes it harder for Indians (and all Asians) alike to get into college. White-folk have it easy.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Descartes
Just asked my fiance (Indian), and she said she knows nothing of what you're talking about. She studied for the GRE just like everyone else. Even if there were such literature available, it's not like it wouldn't quickly become available to everyone else. The intarweb helps a little in this whole information sharing idea

not only do indos cheat on test, they also lie to their SOs.

 

[1prophet]

Maybe they are just making up for the shortfall.

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Descartes
Just asked my fiance (Indian), and she said she knows nothing of what you're talking about. She studied for the GRE just like everyone else. Even if there were such literature available, it's not like it wouldn't quickly become available to everyone else. The intarweb helps a little in this whole information sharing idea

not only do indos cheat on test, they also lie to their SOs.

:shocked:

 

[jai6638]

ahahah this is ridiculous.. Another India-bashing thread.. Oh well, whatever.

It's not only GRE exam answers. It's the same thing with all the certification like CCNP, MCSE, MCPD, etc. They hand you the questions/answers to memorize before taking the test in India. Keep this in mind when hiring someone with a ton of "respected" certifications from India.

I feel bad for you.. You are hurting eh? I will leave you to sulk.. With that attitude of yours as well as your generalizations, I'd rather hire that Indian than you! Atleast he would be willing to take the effort/learn instead of badmouthing others...