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allisolm

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Oil has spiked $4 in last 2 days expected to climb back over $100

Oil is going back to $100


"But one strategist says the commodity is set to stage a striking turnaround."

But one strategist says

one strategist says

one strategist

one

One strategist does not equal 'Oil is going back to $100.'
 

dmcowen674

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because luckily gas doesnt go to 10$ a gallon, so it is 5x cheaper than he expected

When gas is $5 again shortly Americans especially the P&N Oil Thug supporters deserve getting shafted, I bet it's them buying Premium grade to fill their giant gas sucking SUV's they just bought too:

11-26-2015

http://www.businessinsider.com/american-autos-becoming-less-efficient-2015-11

American autos are becoming less efficient



Nearly 42 million Americans will make road trips of 50 miles or more to celebrate Thanksgiving this year, an increase of 0.7% from last year, AAA says. And more of them will be driving bigger, less fuel-efficient vehicles and pumping premium gasoline.


This underscores one of the most surprising trends in the oil markets this year – strong demand. Growth has been concentrated in gasoline consumption, not just in the United States, but globally, most notably in China and India.



  • Consumers are buying less fuel-efficient cars – a notable break from a decade-long trend of incremental efficiency gains.
  • U.S. consumers are buying more premium gasoline, recycling some of the savings from lower prices at the pump. Demand for premium gasoline is up 13% year to date, compared with just 3% for regular.
 

dmcowen674

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One strategist does not equal 'Oil is going back to $100.'

P&Ners fail at Internet search 101

There is a lot more than one, I'll post another one for the Internets challenged:

11-25-2015

http://www.thestreet.com/story/13379218/1/oil-prices-are-primed-to-rally.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO

Oil Prices Are Primed to Rally



The Street By Bruce Kamich Follow | 11/25/15 - 04:50 PM EST

Prices of the nearby crude oil futures contracts have been "bumping around" the low $40s for weeks (see the chart below). Meanwhile, our favorite momentum study has been moving sideways in a tighter and tighter range.

Sometimes when too many market participants and analysts are negative on a security, it is more likely to surprise on the upside. Not sure what it is, but maybe it is just that players are caught "offsides" and they need to quickly adjust their positions.

We are not suggesting you go long on futures or even ETFs based on energy contracts, however; we think that there might be more chance for crude oil futures to trade higher the next several weeks. Shorts, be on alert.
 

allisolm

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P&Ners fail at Internet search 101

There is a lot more than one, I'll post another one for the Internets challenged:

http://www.thestreet.com/story/13379218/1/oil-prices-are-primed-to-rally.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO

Oil Prices Are Primed to Rally

We are not suggesting you go long on futures or even ETFs based on energy contracts, however; we think that there might be more chance for crude oil futures to trade higher the next several weeks.


There might be a chance for futures to trade higher in the next several weeks does not equal "Oil is going back to $100." I really think he doesn't even read the articles he posts.
 

Zorkorist

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OPEC is tearing the shit out of the American Oil industry.

Obama is standing by, and watching.

I fault OPEC, because I am an American, but I don't know what to do about it.

-John
 

Zorkorist

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I don't like the Arabs.. I'd like to tell them to go fuck themselves.

This might be the right time to do it.

-John
 

Meghan54

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There might be a chance for futures to trade higher in the next several weeks does not equal "Oil is going back to $100." I really think he doesn't even read the articles he posts.

He only remembers the sentences that are used to try to bolster his position.

Something mildly interesting happened this week re: OPEC. OPEC re-admitted Indonesia as a member. Indonesia's OPEC membership had been "revoked" a decade or so ago, if memory serves.

What's interesting about Indonesia rejoining OPEC is that Indonesia is the only net oil importer in the group, which would give it a viewpoint fairly opposed to OPEC's mission...propping up as high a price for their oil and dominate the world markets.
 

Meghan54

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$1.50 gasoline is here, and $1 could be next

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...-is-here-and-dollar1-could-be-next/ar-AAfQvMo




Gas prices are plunging around the country, with the national average falling in 24 out of the past 30 days, according to AAA. The price of a gallon of regular now stands at $2.04 nationally, down 14¢ compared to one month ago and 74¢ lower than this time last year. In early 2015, the national average dropped near the $2 mark but never crossed it. But AAA and others anticipate that we’ll dip below the $2 threshold within a matter of days.

“Nearly two-thirds of the nation’s 130,000 gas stations now are selling that gasoline for under $2/gallon, a remarkable change from a year ago, when 0% of stations were under $2,” GasBuddy reported this week.

In some extraordinary cases, the price of a gallon of regular is much lower than that—like under $1.50. Several gas stations in parts of Texas are posting prices of $1.40 to $1.45 per gallon, according to GasBuddy. CNN reported on Monday that the nation’s cheapest gas is being pumped out of a Sam’s Club gas station in Lafayette, Indiana, where a gallon of regular costs an astonishingly cheap $1.39.


Prices are likely to get cheaper still, as earlier forecasts have called for fuel costs to keep dropping at least through the end of the year. Last week, a 24/7 Wall St. story noted that a range of factors, including increased oil refinery output, low gas taxes, and cheap oil prices due to a global surplus, “could drive the price toward $1 in some states.”


Drivers in the Midwest and Gulf states are the ones most likely to see gas prices continue to plunge and perhaps even reach the $1 mark in the weeks and months ahead. But no matter where you live, gas prices have gotten much cheaper this fall. For example, a gallon of regular is $2.38 today in Alaska, on average, compared to $3.51 a year ago. The average per-gallon price in California is now $2.70, down more than $1 compared to July.
 

Londo_Jowo

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Oil Prices Are Primed to Rally

Oops, looks like the rally pump lost it's prime

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/30/us-global-oil-idUSKBN0TJ02J20151130

Oil ends down, reversing rally, as OPEC output seen rising

Crude oil fell on Monday, reversing an early rally after a survey estimated higher OPEC output in November, while a stronger dollar weighed on demand for commodities priced in the currency.U.S. government data showed no meaningful decline in shale oil output in September despite a steady drop in rig counts, another factor that pressured crude, along with a tumble in U.S. gasoline and ultralow sulfur diesel futures before expiration of their front-month contracts.
 

IndyColtsFan

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How do you survive always being wrong?

Speaking of wrong, where's that $6/gallon gas you promised was happening last fall? What about the $10/gallon gas you said was "likely"? Why don't you search for the 2014 gas price thread and answer my other questions, you coward?

The only person in these gas threads who is always wrong is you, and you've been hilariously wrong at that. Yet, instead of saying "Yep, my predictions were wrong and I stand corrected," you double down on your dumb and just put people who repeatedly own you on ignore. Why? Because you're an ignorant cowardly turd, that's why. I hope someone who isn't on your ignore list quotes this so you can see it.
 

PricklyPete

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Speaking of wrong, where's that $6/gallon gas you promised was happening last fall? What about the $10/gallon gas you said was "likely"? Why don't you search for the 2014 gas price thread and answer my other questions, you coward?

The only person in these gas threads who is always wrong is you, and you've been hilariously wrong at that. Yet, instead of saying "Yep, my predictions were wrong and I stand corrected," you double down on your dumb and just put people who repeatedly own you on ignore. Why? Because you're an ignorant cowardly turd, that's why. I hope someone who isn't on your ignore list quotes this so you can see it.


Quote.
 

sigmanova

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Speaking of wrong, where's that $6/gallon gas you promised was happening last fall? What about the $10/gallon gas you said was "likely"? Why don't you search for the 2014 gas price thread and answer my other questions, you coward?

The only person in these gas threads who is always wrong is you, and you've been hilariously wrong at that. Yet, instead of saying "Yep, my predictions were wrong and I stand corrected," you double down on your dumb and just put people who repeatedly own you on ignore. Why? Because you're an ignorant cowardly turd, that's why. I hope someone who isn't on your ignore list quotes this so you can see it.

thanks Indy. let's not forget he belittles and insults those who bring up local prices and actual facts that go against his wild claims. mcowned has truly earned his own moniker.
 

werepossum

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$1.639 yesterday in Chattanooga, on the way home. (Rode the bike in a driving rainstorm, didn't notice it today. lol)
 

dmcowen674

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Remember this post next year when oil & gas prices are through the roof once again:

12-2-2015

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/oil-prices-under-severe-pressure-165202897.html

U.S. Inventories Near 500 Million Barrels


The claim that near-term prices are not low enough to incentivize floating storage is legitimate, but it doesn’t explain away the current reality in the Gulf of Mexico: 51 vessels carrying around 38 million barrels of crude are sat waiting to discharge as of yesterday

Nor does it explain the idling ships seen across the world recently, from Singapore to China to the Arab Gulf.

All the while, total US crude inventories sit at 488.2 million barrels, 105 million barrels higher than this time last year, and 2.7 million barrels shy of the all-time record of 490.9 mn barrels set earlier in the year.

(psst….don’t forget we also have 695 million barrels stored in the strategic petroleum reserve, which equals 137 days of net petroleum imports – although the Senate and House of Representatives agreed on a deal yesterday to sell 66 million barrels of it from 2023 to 2025 to raise funds).

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Let's not forget about Nat Gas as well:


http://news.yahoo.com/americas-biggest-gas-field-finally-succumbs-downturn-061234277.html


America's biggest gas field finally succumbs to downturn



The drilling rigs are gone from the hills surrounding this Pennsylvania town of 30,000. The hotels and bars are quieter too, no longer packed with the workers who flocked in their thousands to America's newest and biggest gas field.


The drilling boom of the past seven years is over, even though thousands of existing wells in the Marcellus region still produce a fifth of U.S. natural gas supply. Now, exclusive data made available to Reuters points to a slump in drilling that could hit production next year, defying government and industry expectations of a further rise in output.

Recent months are subject to revisions, DrillingInfo said, but a retreat of such magnitude, combined with falling output from older wells, would mark a turning point for the Marcellus - and the whole U.S. gas market.


The Energy Information Administration now forecasts overall U.S. gas output to hit a record in 2016 for the sixth year in a row. A drop in Marcellus production could snap that streak and help prop up prices that have fallen by two thirds since 2010.

U.S. natural gas production has risen 30 percent since 2008 when the development of hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, and horizontal drilling unlocked vast shale gas reserves, swamping the market with new supply and causing a collapse in prices.

While gas keeps flowing, the drilling crews are gone and with gas prices near 14-year lows, producers have choked hundreds of wells in the region in the hope that falling supply will stem the slide.

Several gas producers, including Chesapeake Energy and Cabot Oil and Gas, have announced production cuts in the region.


Inflection Energy, a Denver-based privately-owned company with an office in Williamsport, has cut production from 50-70 percent of its wells, company spokesman Matt Henderson said.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...o-deliver-crude-oil-to-eastern-canada?ref=yfp

Enbridge Line 9B Said to Deliver Crude Oil to Eastern Canada


One eastern Canadian refiner began receiving crude oil via Enbridge Inc.’s newly reversed Line 9B Tuesday, according to person familiar with the matter.


About 60,000 barrels of crude was received as of Tuesday, including Bakken oil from North Dakota, said the person, who asked not to be identified because the information isn’t public.

Enbridge began reversing the 300,000 barrel-a-day pipeline in 2011 as refineries in eastern Canada looked to tap into cheaper oil being produced in western Canada and the U.S. Midwest.

The new flow has redirected some crude that used to go to Cushing, Oklahoma, the largest storage hub in the U.S. Enbridge’s Spearhead pipeline, which runs to Cushing from Illinois, will run below capacity in December and January, the first time that has happened in nearly two and a half years.
 
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dmcowen674

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12-4-2015 Oil $39

Remember this when the Oil Thug supporters swear there is no oil when oil goes back up over $150:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/opec-set-policy-rollover-no-080826405.html

OPEC fails to agree production ceiling after Iran pledges to boost output



OPEC members failed to agree an oil production ceiling on Friday at a meeting that ended in acrimony, after Iran said it would not consider any production curbs until it restores output scaled back for years under Western sanctions.


Iran has repeatedly said it would boost production by at least 1 million barrels per day when sanctions are lifted. Without curbs elsewhere, this would add to a global glut, as the world is currently consuming up to 2 million bpd less than it is producing.
 

dmcowen674

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12-7-2015


Of course dumb Americans will forget this market manipulation by the oil thugs come this spring when they jack oil prices through the roof.




Crude Oil Jan 16 (CLF16.NYM)

-NY Mercantile

37.74
2.23(5.58%) 1:42PM EST




Prev Settlement:N/AOpen:40.10Bid:37.73Ask:37.74Day's Range:37.50 - 40.15Volume:430,249Open Interest:539,723Session:
 

dmcowen674

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12-10-2015

Highest Oil inventory in over 80 years, oil at $36 but gas prices going up.

Jumped the usual 30 cents today, they expect gas to be $3.50 by Christmas.

There is your gift.

http://www.indygasprices.com/

Indianapolis
Pre-Hike Average
1.79
Price Hike Alert
Projected Average
1.99 +/- 0.10
Gas Prices could be jumping in your area.


https://blog.gasbuddy.com/posts/Cru...-Nations/1715-632675-3440.aspx?m=2wP4G+LoHSs=

Crude Price Fallout Now Affecting Oil Importing Nations

The chorus of nations that once welcomed oil's collapse appear to be losing their enthusiasm. And while much has been written about the economic well being of producing nations impacted, from Venezuela to Russia, positives to oil importing nations from consumer to manufacturer was a given. That's about to change.


After all, oil price volatility can never be dismissed from the prospect of recurrence.

The false assumption that lower oil and gas prices would benefit consumers and the economy, was premature.




 

ElFenix

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Indianapolis USA Trend
Today 1.924 2.011 Prices Stable
Yesterday 1.924 2.011
One Week Ago 1.960 2.045
One Month Ago 2.113 2.205
One Year Ago 2.496 2.613

as usual, wtf are you even talking about?
 
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