Indiana State Trooper shot for taking games away...

[DrDoug]

from his 11 year old son. Luckily the kid didn't kill his father but I have to wonder wtf is going on is a household where a kid thinks the solution to not getting what he wants is to shoot his dad while lying in bed with his mom. Leaving the mom alive, no less. Tazing the family dog isn't a very promising sign either. At least he was nice enough to warn the investigators that that there will be a second attempt if he doesn't get his way.

I think they're going to need a funnel to deliver the medications this kid needs.

 

[UglyCasanova]

The addiction some kids have to video games is real. It consumes them and when taken away some kids react extremely poorly. There’s all kinds of videos of kids screaming and breaking stuff and even violenve. This seems like an unfortunate escalation of that.

 

[woolfe9998]

I think this had less to do with video games and more to do with this kid being a budding psychopath.

 

[UglyCasanova]

It’s both. The video game or iPad or whatever addiction is a very real thing. I struggle with it with my daughter. She lives with her iPad and headphones and when they get taken away it’s the end of the world. For this kid he was mentally unstable, I’m sure had raging hormones making him not think right, the video games were the trigger point, and he snapped.

 

[DrDoug]

It’s both. The video game or iPad or whatever addiction is a very real thing. I struggle with it with my daughter. She lives with her iPad and headphones and when they get taken away it’s the end of the world. For this kid he was mentally unstable, I’m sure had raging hormones making him not think right, the video games were the trigger point, and he snapped.

It's the family, not the games. The games are the object of his attention and the dad was in the way. I've raised two kids to adulthood without them wanting to kill me for taking their consoles and computers away (not anything else) when they got themselves in trouble. Sure, they weren't happy but they didn't go psycho, they did their 'time' and got past it.

There were many other lessons involved in their upbringing that I am sure influenced their wise decision not to kill me.

 

[Maxima1]

It's the family, not the games. The games are the object of his attention and the dad was in the way. I've raised two kids to adulthood without them wanting to kill me for taking their consoles and computers away (not anything else) when they got themselves in trouble. Sure, they weren't happy but they didn't go psycho, they did their 'time' and got past it.

There were many other lessons involved in their upbringing that I am sure influenced their wise decision not to kill me.

Some are just rotten or become that way more easily.

 

[Moonbeam]

Having trouble seeing this as an issue that developed overnight.

 

[Jaskalas]

Parents hook their kid up to a device that effectively pushes the dopamine button in the brain. You stop that feedback loop, and you might as well have just cut their arm off. The attachment is real. The "need" is real. It's no wonder a violent reaction can occur.

 

[AlanWade]

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I wonder if someone is tryig to protect my vunerable mind.

 

[Linux23]

The addiction some kids have to video games is real. It consumes them and when taken away some kids react extremely poorly. There’s all kinds of videos of kids screaming and breaking stuff and even violenve. This seems like an unfortunate escalation of that.

yah because access to his dad's service weapon played no role in this kids actions.

 

[ch33zw1z]

1. Addiction to video games is real. It's something I discuss with my kids, and we keep on discussing as needed.

2. I get the feeling they don't use a lot of words in that house

3. Why was he able to get to officers weapon. Aren't firearms required to be locked up?

4. If I'm wrong, and the parents had repeated discussions about how video games aren't worth more than a human life, AND the kid isnt special needs in some way that he can't have empathy...then yea, budding psyco

 

[interchange]

I am wondering what kind of ideas about authority and conflict resolution the household has been teaching this kid.

 

[dank69]

1. Addiction to video games is real. It's something I discuss with my kids, and we keep on discussing as needed.

2. I get the feeling they don't use a lot of words in that house

3. Why was he able to get to officers weapon. Aren't firearms required to be locked up?

4. If I'm wrong, and the parents had repeated discussions about how video games aren't worth more than a human life, AND the kid isnt special needs in some way that he can't have empathy...then yea, budding psyco

responsible gun owner

 

[SMOGZINN]

needs in some way that he can't have empathy...then yea, budding psyco

You understand that these two things are the same right? A psychopath is a special needs kid that can't feel empathy. Not that I think that is what is going on here. I think this was a combination of the kid being taught that violence was an appropriate response to (perceived) injustice and a young mind that is not able to think through consequences fully and therefor has problems with impulse control. Impulse control problems is very common with pre-teens though the middle-late teen years.

 

[ch33zw1z]

You understand that these two things are the same right? A psychopath is a special needs kid that can't feel empathy. Not that I think that is what is going on here. I think this was a combination of the kid being taught that violence was an appropriate response to (perceived) injustice and a young mind that is not able to think through consequences fully and therefor has problems with impulse control. Impulse control problems is very common with pre-teens though the middle-late teen years.

Well, my meaning is someone who has a disorder like ASD, versus someone who's brain isn't wired for empathy yet operates generally "under the radar". I know there's many different scenarios, my meaning was just that some we can tell, others maybe not so much.

Even with ASD, the spectrum covers many different traits.

 

[zinfamous]

responsible gun owner

I did want to point out that this man was shot by his own gun, but thought it was too early for the ammosexuals around here.

 

[Genx87]

from his 11 year old son. Luckily the kid didn't kill his father but I have to wonder wtf is going on is a household where a kid thinks the solution to not getting what he wants is to shoot his dad while lying in bed with his mom. Leaving the mom alive, no less. Tazing the family dog isn't a very promising sign either. At least he was nice enough to warn the investigators that that there will be a second attempt if he doesn't get his way.

I think they're going to need a funnel to deliver the medications this kid needs.

Sociopath, table for one.

 

[UNCjigga]

So where does this kid go from here? I'm assuming he isn't charged as an adult, and will be ruled mentally unfit in some regard. We don't have asylums anymore, right? Are there any mental hospitals in Indiana equipped to care for minors on a long-term basis? Clearly, in the best interests of both parents and the child, he can never go home again.

 

[Indus]

What we have got here is Failure to Communicate - the dad to his kid, violence is not the answer!

 

[Maxima1]

i come across this ever so often (also sometimes 50%).

https://kutv.com/news/local/40-of-police-officer-families-experience-domestic-violence-study-says

Do 40% of police officer families experience domestic violence? It's complicated

https://www.theatlantic.com/nationa...rs-who-hit-their-wives-or-girlfriends/380329/

Research suggests that family violence is two to four times higher in the law-enforcement community than in the general population. So where's the public outrage?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I think this had less to do with video games and more to do with this kid being a budding psychopath.

This is true.

 

[interchange]

You understand that these two things are the same right? A psychopath is a special needs kid that can't feel empathy. Not that I think that is what is going on here. I think this was a combination of the kid being taught that violence was an appropriate response to (perceived) injustice and a young mind that is not able to think through consequences fully and therefor has problems with impulse control. Impulse control problems is very common with pre-teens though the middle-late teen years.

The DSM diagnosis is conduct disorder for kids and antisocial personality disorder for adults. Psychopathy and sociopathy are psychological constructs that have had different uses over time.

I will say that it sounds like this particular kid has shown a significant deficit in empathy in this situation. He acted in premeditated fashion hours later, tased the dog, studied how best to shoot his dad, and afterward threatened repeated action.

 

[whm1974]

I was certainly more mature then this kid when I was 11 y/o. I had some access to my stepfather's guns and I never even thought shooting anyone intently.

 

[sportage]

It occurred to me....
What is Abraham Lincoln would have had video games in that era?
Would old Abe have ever become president, or would young Abe instead absorbed with playing Fortnite and become a couch potato?
No law school, no presidency, no freeing the slaves.
Or how about Louis Pasteur?
Or how about Gandhi?
Neil Armstrong?
Picasso?
Winston Churchill?
Shakespeare?
Martin Luther King?
Issac Newton?
Christopher Columbus?
Mozart?
Jesus Christ?
Or how about YOUR KID?

How would the world have changed?
How will the future be changed because some future Martin Luther King or Issac Newton or Shakespeare rather play Fortnite than go to school, get an education, leave their room, or ever give a damn about anything other than video gaming?
Maybe the guy that would one day cure cancer has become a dead head concerned only with scoring the latest video game fad?

Lord... Heal me, I am a cripple and blind.
Jesus: Geez man.... I'm almost at lever three. Go heal yourself, damn it.

 

[whm1974]

It occurred to me....
What is Abraham Lincoln would have had video games in that era?
Would old Abe have ever become president, or would young Abe instead absorbed with playing Fortnite and become a couch potato?
No law school, no presidency, no freeing the slaves.
Or how about Louis Pasteur?
Or how about Gandhi?
Neil Armstrong?
Picasso?
Winston Churchill?
Shakespeare?
Martin Luther King?
Issac Newton?
Christopher Columbus?
Mozart?
Jesus Christ?
Or how about YOUR KID?

How would the world have changed?
How will the future be changed because some future Martin Luther King or Issac Newton or Shakespeare rather play Fortnite than go to school, get an education, leave their room, or ever give a damn about anything other than video gaming?
Maybe the guy that would one day cure cancer has become a dead head concerned only with scoring the latest video game fad?

Lord... Heal me, I am a cripple and blind.
Jesus: Geez man.... I'm almost at lever three. Go heal yourself, damn it.

I'm thinking it will be best if young children are only permitted to play video games if they have good grades and do their chores, along with encouragement to do other hobbies as well.