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ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Good lock Her up!
Maybe the Republican controlled:
Senate
House
Attorney General
Justice Department
Should start investing her again.

Assuming they don’t they are either incompetent or Hillary is innocent which is it @brandonbull

Just take a brief walk down that link.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/russian-collusion-hillary-clinton/

"But "a growing body of evidence ... indicates that the meeting may have been a setup — part of a broad effort to tarnish the Trump campaign involving Hillary Clinton operatives employed by Kremlin-linked figures and Department of Justice officials," wrote Smith."


to here: https://www.investors.com/politics/...hillary-clinton-run-fbis-trump-investigation/

"We're deeply concerned about the risks of allowing any company or entity that is beholden to foreign governments that don't share our values to gain positions of power inside our telecommunications networks," FBI Director Chris Wray told members of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

The Australian, a newspaper down-under, reports that Downer became a member of the board of directors of Huawei's Australian unit all the way back in June of 2011. So Downer is himself compromised, as everyone who exists in the Clinton web appears to be."

wonder whats in that link? https://www.lifezette.com/2018/03/f...m-u-s-intel-chiefs-have-distrusted-for-years/

and down the rabbit hole you go. It's a wonder any of the clintons are roaming free. you'd think republicans would be all over this.
 

Amused

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It's probably getting a ton of attention. Attention by the lunatic conspiracy fringe. Those suckers will by into anything. Meanwhile normal folks will wait for facts.

So. Painfully, I read that article and the links inside it.

ALL of the links inside are SELF SOURCING to other op-eds which, get this, also self source to previous op-eds.

OMFG there really is NO evidence to support the claim other than connecting dots based on pure fantasy. It's that bad. It's as a bad as the whiteboard paranoia Glenn Beck used to do.

This is an extension of "The Storm" fantasy. That all of this Trump investigation is really a cover for a Hillary investigation. It's pure fantasy and seems to be designed to duhvert the base, at least for a while.
 
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So. Painfully, I read that article and the links inside it.

ALL of the links inside are SELF SOURCING to other op-eds which, get this, also self source to previous op-eds.

OMFG there really is NO evidence to support the claim other than connecting dots based on pure fantasy. It's that bad. It's as a bad as the whiteboard paranoia Glenn Beck used to do.

This is an extension of "The Storm" fantasy. That all of this Trump investigation is really a cover for a Hillary investigation. It's pure fantasy and seems to be designed to duhvert the base, at least for a while.

It’s clear as day, can’t you see it?

 
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K1052

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When the Omarosa news cycle is grafted onto the Trump-Russa news cycle:

 

alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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Yeah this I have a hard time believing. There's no fucking way the Mueller team would tell her shit about what they have.

Let me rephrase. I don't believe it for a second.

i don't think that tweet says what you think it says. there is no indication in it that Mueller's team told her anything, just what she told them.
 

K1052

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Yeah this I have a hard time believing. There's no fucking way the Mueller team would tell her shit about what they have.

Let me rephrase. I don't believe it for a second.

I'm not sure if she's saying that she had knowledge of said corruption or she supposedly heard it from the special counsel.
 

Hugo Stiglitz

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Omarosa saying Trump knew of the emails before they came out is the story of the day but there is soooo much circumstantial evidence to conclude Trump absolutely knew of the emails and their Russia handlers before they were released.

See also Papadopoulos and Scavino.
 

Josephus312

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Gotta love the defense argument that Manafort is innocent because Calk is guilty... They can both be guilty, can't they?

WOW, you finally realised how this works, well I'll be happy to see you around in other threads where you won't even consider that such a thing is possible.
 

sactoking

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They're not arguing that Calk is guilty, they're arguing that Calk wanted to get a cushy job so badly that he didn't care what Manafort's finances were; he would have granted the loan regardless.
 

Jhhnn

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They're not arguing that Calk is guilty, they're arguing that Calk wanted to get a cushy job so badly that he didn't care what Manafort's finances were; he would have granted the loan regardless.

So what? Manafort engaged in deception in the paperwork he submitted. Calk wouldn't have been able to OK the loan w/o it.

It's all obfuscation & attempted blame shifting.
 

Jhhnn

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Not so strange if we assume that Manafort has already been promised a pardon from Trump in exchange for keeping his mouth shut.

Promises or no promises Manafort's only real play is to be the stand up guy & hope it happens. November of 2020 isn't that far away.
 

Hugo Stiglitz

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I think Manafort is smart enough to not gamble his life on a pardon from a two bit con man.

Manafort is either in complete denial of his situation or terrified of the Russians if he flips.
 

Josephus312

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Promises or no promises Manafort's only real play is to be the stand up guy & hope it happens. November of 2020 isn't that far away.

Or go all out and get pardoned.

You are placing much too high hopes in the political system that gave you Trump

Look, I know you think I'm an idiot but the thing is, the only way to get rid of Trump is to actually do something, not to sit around waithing for something to happen. The Democratic congress needs to put up an impeachement and no, it'm not blaming them for not doing it, I'm saying that it would probably be successful.
 

Josephus312

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I think Manafort is smart enough to not gamble his life on a pardon from a two bit con man.

Manafort is either in complete denial of his situation or terrified of the Russians if he flips.

A two bit con man that can pardon him? His other choice would be life in prison without any chance of parole.
 

Hugo Stiglitz

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Or go all out and get pardoned.

You are placing much too high hopes in the political system that gave you Trump

Look, I know you think I'm an idiot but the thing is, the only way to get rid of Trump is to actually do something, not to sit around waithing for something to happen. The Democratic congress needs to put up an impeachement and no, it'm not blaming them for not doing it, I'm saying that it would probably be successful.
If democrats take the House, my money is on Trump resigning in 2019.

The democrats will impeach him and that would force a trial in the Senate. Trump wants nothing to do with that even if it looks like he could avoid removal. I speculate Trump will resign because it’s the only way he can maintain control of the narrative.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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Promises or no promises Manafort's only real play is to be the stand up guy & hope it happens. November of 2020 isn't that far away.

No, he has another play. Cooperating with Mueller and getting the charges dropped or reduced. The fact that he hasn't done that to me suggests he has already been promised a pardon by Trump. And the fact he is putting on a weak defense suggests it as well.

Some people think he's afraid of the Russians but there's no way Putin is going to have him killed. He's a public figure here in the U.S.; killing him would be too risky.
 

Josephus312

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If democrats take the House, my money is on Trump resigning in 2019.

The democrats will impeach him and that would force a trial in the Senate. Trump wants nothing to do with that even if it looks like he could avoid removal. I speculate Trump will resign because it’s the only way he can maintain control of the narrative.

They could do it RIGHT NOW and be successful. But they don't. If you get a Democratic majority nothing will change.

All you are doing is replacing people supported by domestic and foreign funds to vote as they are told.
 

Josephus312

Senior member
Aug 10, 2018
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No, he has another play. Cooperating with Mueller and getting the charges dropped or reduced. The fact that he hasn't done that to me suggests he has already been promised a pardon by Trump. And the fact he is putting on a weak defense suggests it as well.

Some people think he's afraid of the Russians but there's no way Putin is going to have him killed. He's a public figure here in the U.S.; killing him would be too risky.

I knew you were a brigh one.

And no shit...
 

Hugo Stiglitz

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A two bit con man that can pardon him? His other choice would be life in prison without any chance of parole.
Have you seen what the Russians do to their traitors?

Manafort is screwed no matter what happens. His best case scenario is to find some way to flee the country.
 
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