Indictments coming...

[Jhhnn]

It's the acting as a foreign agent part.

Plus money laundering, witness tampering & more. Witness tampering is the reason his bond was revoked, iirc.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz]

It’s very possible Manafort’s trial #2 will get pushed back. Possibly to early next year.

 

[hal2kilo]

Plus money laundering, witness tampering & more. Witness tampering is the reason his bond was revoked, iirc.

Wow, you're right. For some reason I assumed the money laundering was part of this trial, but, yea, there was nothing about that. Just simple out and out Bank, and IRS fraud; and non reporting of foreign bank accounts. It gets complicated when you are a criminal on so many levels.

 

[jackstar7]

Closing arguments are in progress.

Evidence Against Manafort Is ‘Overwhelming,’ Prosecutors Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/us/politics/manafort-trial-closing-arguments.html

The prosecution makes a good case. Curious to see how it shakes out. When it's all white collar stuff, there always seems to be wiggle room.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Closing arguments are in progress.

Evidence Against Manafort Is ‘Overwhelming,’ Prosecutors Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/us/politics/manafort-trial-closing-arguments.html

The prosecution makes a good case. Curious to see how it shakes out. When it's all white collar stuff, there always seems to be wiggle room.

Considering the prosecution is made up of Mueller’s dream team of attorneys, anything outside a clear conviction will be a shock.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Update:

#ManafortTrial has officially come to an end following prosecutions rebuttal on close. Manafort's fate now in jury's hands after they receive instruction from judge. Instruction may take up rest of day forcing deliberations to begin in earnest tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/bbuchman_cns/status/1029825449428443138?s=21


Thursday and Friday should be fun.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Update:

#ManafortTrial has officially come to an end following prosecutions rebuttal on close. Manafort's fate now in jury's hands after they receive instruction from judge. Instruction may take up rest of day forcing deliberations to begin in earnest tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/bbuchman_cns/status/1029825449428443138?s=21


Thursday and Friday should be fun.

i really don't see how it comes back anything other than a conviction. the evidence they've shown is pretty damn solid.

 

[Younigue]

i really don't see how it comes back anything other than a conviction. the evidence they've shown is pretty damn solid.

I just read a tweet (not an article) that says his lawyer's closing arguments were that Mueller in no way proved his case or Manafort's guilt. It made me laugh.

 

[Viper1j]

The stupidity is astounding.

How the hell does someone blow SIXTY MILLION DOLLARS?

Anyone with more than two active brain cells, would be laying on a beach, sipping a drink with an umbrella and it, served by a hot chick in a grass skirt and coconut bra.

 

[Sunburn74]

I still can't believe the guy had a $15,000 jacket made out of an ostrich. That is like James Bond level villainy there.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz]

I went to Dillard’s yesterday and piled up a bunch of clothes on the checkout counter. The salesperson ask how I would like to pay and I told him I needed to transfer payment for the clothes via wire transfer from my bank in Cyprus.

The salesperson looked at me like I was out of my fucking mind.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz]

So Papadopoulos’s wife was on Twitter last night looking for a new pro-bono lawyer for her husband.

Not sure what to make it but there are plenty of theories. Papadopoulos’s wife seems like an attention whore so I have a hard time taking this stunt seriously. Looks like another distraction.

George Papadopoulos sentencing is in three weeks (Sept 7) and he is all but certainly going to jail. I’d speculate 30 days like the other doofus.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

i really don't see how it comes back anything other than a conviction. the evidence they've shown is pretty damn solid.

OJ Simpson

 

[sdifox]

I still can't believe the guy had a $15,000 jacket made out of an ostrich. That is like James Bond level villainy there.

Ostrich is raised for meat so I don't see the big deal with an ostrich coat. Weird for sure, but not villany.

 

[zinfamous]

OJ Simpson

Well, that was a trial that lasted for months, and there was an actual defense put forth...even though it was simply: "racism." That, and the prosecution screwed the pooch at nearly every step, and depending on a thorough gaggle of rascals as their primary witnesses, most of whom were easily destroyed by the defense. Also: thoroughly stupid, demonstrably incompetent jurors.

 

[sactoking]

Also: thoroughly stupid, demonstrably incompetent jurors.

There's a reason the defense cited Trump essentially for the first time during closing arguments: all they need is one TDS supporter to say this is all a big witch hunt against Trump and his people to hang the jury.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz]

There's a reason the defense cited Trump essentially for the first time during closing arguments: all they need is one TDS supporter to say this is all a big witch hunt against Trump and his people to hang the jury.

Manafort is going with the Bob Loblaw defense strategy.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Brief update from court reporter Zoe Tillman of Buzzfeed

https://twitter.com/zoetillman/status/1030096138190368775?s=21

“Jury deliberations are now underway in Paul Manafort's trial in federal court in Alexandria, Va. The judge briefly called the jurors in this morning and gave them a brief overview of the process, and then they went out at 9:55am. They can take as long or as short as they want

The jury will get all of the hundreds of exhibits entered into the record. They asked to use a larger room to deliberate, and the judge agreed. He reminded them that they can only deliberate while all 12 are in the room — if someone goes to the bathroom, they must stop, he said

The judge noted that the jury room was on the small side — he said he was involved in planning the construction of the courthouse, and didn't recall paying attention to the jury rooms. "I paid a lot of attention to my space. I regret that now."

At the very end, the judge got ready to call the next case. He asked if "Mr. Trump" was in the room. There was what I would call a momentary ripple of confusion/anxiety/excitement as everyone looked around. The judge appeared to be referring to a lawyer. It was not the president.“

Lol

 

[hal2kilo]

Considering the prosecution is made up of Mueller’s dream team of attorneys, anything outside a clear conviction will be a shock.

The judge should be reprimanded. Hope the prosecution wins, with the repeated attempts by him to interject his opinions about how questions should be stated, various other improper conduct.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Jury just delivered a note to the judge.

Manafort has been brought back into the courtroom.

Awaiting update

 

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Manafort jury has four questions, will continue deliberations tomorrow.

Paul Manafort's jurors asked if the judge could "redefine" for them "reasonable doubt."

They also asked two questions related to Manafort's tax filing and foreign bank account disclosure charges.

Per https://twitter.com/shimonpro/status/1030201953027014657?s=21

 

[Hugo Stiglitz]

The jury has proposed these 4 questions:

Q: Is one required to file an FBAR if they own less than 50% of the company and no signatory authority?

Q: Define "shelf company"?

Q: Can you redefine reasonable doubt?

Q: Can the exhibit list be amended to include the indictment?

https://twitter.com/tom_winter/status/1030202285681508352?s=21

 

[jackstar7]

The jury has proposed these 4 questions:

Q: Is one required to file an FBAR if they own less than 50% of the company and no signatory authority?

Q: Define "shelf company"?

Q: Can you redefine reasonable doubt?

Q: Can the exhibit list be amended to include the indictment?

https://twitter.com/tom_winter/status/1030202285681508352?s=21

Holy shit.

Goddamn white collar shit.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz]

It appears the jury made up of the common clay of the new West, people of the land.

 

[Starbuck1975]

The jury has proposed these 4 questions:

Q: Is one required to file an FBAR if they own less than 50% of the company and no signatory authority?

Q: Define "shelf company"?

Q: Can you redefine reasonable doubt?

Q: Can the exhibit list be amended to include the indictment?

https://twitter.com/tom_winter/status/1030202285681508352?s=21

What are your thoughts on the jury needing to define reasonable doubt given some of the theatrics by the judge throughout the trial?